On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
"Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
> Removals:
> net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
Diamond wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
> "Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
>
>
>> Removals:
>> net-misc/curl2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness
> Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
>
>
Look under additions. It's there.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:12:17 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Mike Gilbert
>wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Lars Wendler
>> wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I just add e2fsprogs{,-libs}-1.42.11
>>
>> Is there some reason that we continue to maintain these as two
Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no good
reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
On 20 July 2014 20:28, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I'd like to enable by default
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Diamond wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
> > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Removals:
> >> net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
> >> blueness
> > Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
>
> Look under a
On 21/07/14 12:30, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
> Dale wrote:
>
>> Diamond wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
>>> "Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
>>>
>>>
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
blueness
>>> Is this a joke? Isn't cur
On 07/21/14 05:30, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:35:45 -0500
Dale wrote:
Diamond wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 +
"Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
Removals:
net-misc/curl 2014-07-15 09:29:56
blueness
Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
L
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:23:46 +0900
Thomas Kahle wrote:
> the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
> language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
> uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
> install to the user.
Every ebuild uses LINGU
On 21/07/14 21:03, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:23:46 +0900
> Thomas Kahle wrote:
>
>> the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
>> language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
>> uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:26:09 +0900
Thomas Kahle wrote:
> Since you deleted it
sorry
>, let me ask my question again: If I follow
> this method I will have 37 dependencies all of this form. This
> is pointless because
>
> a) Everytime tesseract gains or loses a language support (it does
> happ
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 13:23:46
Thomas Kahle napisał(a):
> the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
> language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
> uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
> install to the user.
>
> A reverse depen
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:01:00 -0400
"Anthony G. Basile" wrote:
> Yes, accidentally removed curl and then re-added it.
You refreshed curl!
jer
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:32:10 +0400
Diamond wrote:
> Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget?
In Gentooland, curl is actually secondary to wget, but probably
tertiary to none. :)
jer
On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail
for no good
> reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
I don't see where I asked abo
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On 21/07/14 11:07 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>
>> Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no
>> good
>
>> reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
>
>>
>
>>
On Monday 21 July 2014 08:52:51 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
> On 7/21/14, 6:02 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> > Why not generate a Portage QA warning out from the warning
> > -Wformat-security produces instead?
> > That way compile wouldn't abort needlessly.
>
> +1, and then it can be done globally.
>
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:07:24 +0200
Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> I don't see where I asked about -Werror instead of only -
> Wformat.
It's been enabled in stable GCC for four years and in unstable and the
hardened profiles for much longer so asking about setting it in any
profiles makes no sense.
I
media-gfx/splashutils fails to build, and it fails everytime one of it's
reverse dependency changes dependencies because it fails to use
pkg-config to query "Libs: "
it's supposed to have proxy-maint, but nobody is pushing fixes for the
supposed proxy-maint
it's in no shape to be in tree as-is, a
On 21/07/14 18:11, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 21/07/14 11:07 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> > On Monday 21 July 2014 10:08:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>
> >> Any -Werror=* flag will make random autoconf checks fail for no
> >> good
>
> >> reason, don't use them on profiles, it's silly.
>
> >>
>
Besides, people should migrate to something with active upstream, like
plymouth
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:55:25 +0300
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> But only -Wformat=2 has -Wformat-security. Do we enable -Wformat with
> 1 or 2?
The gcc info pages say:
`-Wformat'
[...]
In Gentoo, this option is enabled by default for [...]
`-Wformat-security'
[...]
In Gentoo, this opti
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Hi everyone,
currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
becomes unavailable or never existed at all.
I've created a wikipage, which can be used instead of filling HOMEPAGE
with "www.gentoo.org" or non-valid urls like "none".
El lun, 21-07-2014 a las 17:22 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:07:24 +0200
> Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
>
> > I don't see where I asked about -Werror instead of only -
> > Wformat.
>
> It's been enabled in stable GCC for four years and in unstable and the
> hardened profile
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger wrote:
> Please check your packages and update them to this link:
> HOMEPAGE="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage";
In the same effort we could give all the Gentoo-specific packages
which now have that homepage URI a more specific (proj-/wiki-
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger wrote:
> currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
> becomes unavailable or never existed at all.
What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
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On 21/07/14 11:52 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> media-gfx/splashutils fails to build, and it fails everytime one of
> it's reverse dependency changes dependencies because it fails to
> use pkg-config to query "Libs: "
>
> it's supposed to have proxy-
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> I'm not against dropping splashutils, but is there an alternative to
> creating or managing framebuffer-splash in the tree? fbsplash doesn't
> seem to be there (tho i don't know if that's the same upstream package
> or not)
Fbsplash is a
afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
--dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a different PM
to not get the fix, at worst resulti
On 21/07/14 22:37, hasufell wrote:
> afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
>
> still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
> either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
> --dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a diff
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like EAPI4->5
EAPI changing to 5 should always get a revbump, since it causes
confusion if anyone has a USE dependency upon your package.
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Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell:
> afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
>
> still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
> either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
> --dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default)
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the
> ebuild are changed.
> Nothing about dependencies.
>
> This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change
> it overnight just because you protest.
P
On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like EAPI4->5
> EAPI changing to 5 should always get a revbump, since it causes
> confusion if anyone has a USE dependency upon your pa
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On 21/07/14 04:06 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
> On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300 Samuli Suominen
>> wrote:
>>> people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
>>> EAPI4->5
>> EAPI changing
On 21/07/14 23:13, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 21/07/14 04:06 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
> > On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300 Samuli Suominen
> >> wrote:
> >>> people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
> >>> EAPI4->5
> >> EAPI
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:22 +0300
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 21/07/14 22:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:42:23 +0300
> > Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >> people are revbumping packages for the simplest things like
> >> EAPI4->5
> > EAPI changing to 5 should always get a revbump
Samuli Suominen:
> So, -1, useless rebuilds is one of the biggest problems lately
I am not sure if that is a joke.
We have:
* a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
randomly fails to remove files, allows to b
2014-07-21 23:29 GMT+04:00 Maxim Kammerer :
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > I'm not against dropping splashutils, but is there an alternative to
> > creating or managing framebuffer-splash in the tree? fbsplash doesn't
> > seem to be there (tho i don't know if that
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On 21/07/14 04:28 PM, hasufell wrote:
>
> Reality check, please. (btw... I didn't come up with the subslot
> idea, so maybe check with those guys about useless rebuilds)
>
>
> Removing dynamic deps is an easy way to improve the strictness of
> po
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 20:28:24
hasufell napisał(a):
> * a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
> suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
> randomly fails to remove files, allows to break your system in numerous
> ways and whatnot... and I'm not
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 21:53:04
"Andreas K. Huettel" napisał(a):
> Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell:
> > afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
> >
> > still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
> > either don't use dynamic deps (it'
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:28:24 +
hasufell wrote:
> We have:
> * a broken PM which does incomplete dep calculation, gives wrong
> suggestions to the user, has totally useless error/debug output,
> randomly fails to remove files, allows to break your system in
> numerous ways and whatnot... and I
El lun, 21-07-2014 a las 20:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200
> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> > Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the
> > ebuild are changed.
> > Nothing about dependencies.
> >
> > This has been policy for a LONG t
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which would be a single
> fix. Everywhere.
Dynamic dependencies is not fixable. It's an irredeemably broken
concept.
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:06:08 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
> Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which would be a
> > single fix. Everywhere.
>
> Dynamic dependencies is not fixable. It's an irredeemably broken
> concept.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
> - One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...)
> - The other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn't change the
> installed files (for example, -r1.1)
Or the packag
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:13:06 +0200
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:06:08 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:58 +0200
> > Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > > So you suggest we work around a bug in the PM which would be a
> > > single fix. Everywhere.
> >
> > Dyna
On 21/07/14 23:56, Michał Górny wrote:
> Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is another
> question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the
> consequences of any change.
> Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic deps
>
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:15:41 +0200
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
> Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
> > - One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...)
> > - The other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn
Dnia 2014-07-22, o godz. 00:13:13
Samuli Suominen napisał(a):
>
> On 21/07/14 23:56, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is
> > another
> > question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the
> > consequences of any cha
Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 22:21:42
Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:15:41 +0200
> Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
> > Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
> > > - One would rebuild all as usually (f
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> The funny thing is, almost none of the Gentoo developers even know that
> slot operators disable dynamic dependencies completely in portage.
So *that's* why I now have to change RDEPENDs in both the source
ebuild and in VDB in order to augme
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Michał has documented the shortcomings of dynamic deps in our wiki[0].
(Thank you!) This documentation also includes two of our possible
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1. Improve dynamic-deps. This is, as Michał pointed out earlier in
this thread a pipe dream
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+1. Nice idea Manuel!
On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
It is not very informative.
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I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
the arch teams, which we know are overworked anyway, with stable
requests just because we changed the dependencies. Isn'
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen
wrote:
> On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
> It is not very informative.
>
The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata
that just says "there's no metadata"?
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On 07/22/2014 01:20 AM, Gordon Pettey wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen
> mailto:berna...@gentoo.org>> wrote:
>
> On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
> It is not very informative.
William Hubbs:
> I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
>
> My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
> the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
> the arch teams, which we know are overworked anyway, with stable
> requests just because we cha
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On 07/21/2014 06:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> I'm picking a random msg to reply to.
>
> My concern about doing a revbump just because the deps change is that
> the new revision has to be committed in ~arch, so we then have to hit
> the arch teams, wh
Hi,
On 21/07/14 21:42, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 13:23:46
> Thomas Kahle napisał(a):
>
>> the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
>> language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
>> uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which pa
On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 22:56 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic deps
> are a pipe dream. You can't implement them properly, so we're using
> half-working implementation as an excuse to be lazy.
Why not adapt the updates mechanism for modify
On 21/07/14 12:23 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the OCR software tesseract has many different plugins for
> language packs used for OCR for different languages. The ebuild
> uses the LINGUAS variable to pass the choice of which packages to
> install to the user.
>
> A reverse dependency is a
On 22/07/14 04:05, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>
> And just for fun, since no one has mentioned it yet, dynamic deps don't
> work at all on binpkgs since the Packages file contains the deps (like
> vardb) and it doesn't get updated (just like vardb).
Known long standing pitfall. It's managabl
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