Re: [gentoo-dev] Creating a USE_EXPAND for ssl providers

2014-05-30 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 29 May 2014 13:42:01 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > Back in Jun 2012 I added a CURL_SSL to the USE_EXPAND to represent You could start by fixing boring old bugs instead of working on exciting new features. See bug 510580, née 499398, which stops everyone from stabilising because you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Creating a USE_EXPAND for ssl providers

2014-05-30 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/29/14 23:21, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Sorry for the possible HTML email, this is from my phone.. On May 29, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: Anthony G. Basile posted on Thu, 29 May 2014 13:42:01 -0400 as excerpted: With the number of ssl providers growing, like l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Creating a USE_EXPAND for ssl providers

2014-05-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 08:03 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 05/29/14 23:21, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> USE_EXPAND generally works or is meant to work when all >> participating ebuilds are ok with working from the exact same set >> of flags. > > Not at all.

[gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( - Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, > ... to genkernel repository for: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 > > I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( > > - Samuli >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/05/14 19:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, >> ... to genkernel repository for: >> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 >> >> I'll p.mask it on amd64 pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/05/14 19:16, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 30/05/14 19:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 >> Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >>> I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, >>> ... to genkernel repository for: >>> >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread hasufell
Tom Wijsman: > > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... > That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. Please p.mask (or patch) immediately. There is no point in waiting.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 18:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... So if an ebuild does "rm -rf / --no-preserve-root", it should not be masked as long as it does not break the command into several lines? - -- Alexander berna..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2014 11:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, > ... to genkernel repository for: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 > > I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > I'll give it 48 hours and then p.mask it. Genkernel itself does work; so, there is no point to masking it. > I won't be fixing it. Someone else here can, but wait for someone like Pacho to look into the activity of the current maintai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Tsoy
В Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen пишет: > I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, > ... to genkernel repository for: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 > > I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( > > - Samuli >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > I'll give it 48 hours and then p.mask it. > > Genkernel itself does work; so, there is no point to masking it. > > I like the message the package.mask would send to maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 16:34:09 + hasufell wrote: > Tom Wijsman: > > > > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... > > > > That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single > wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. > > Please p.mask (or patch)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:43:14 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 30/05/14 18:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... > So if an ebuild does "rm -rf / --no-preserve-root", [...] Does Genkernel do that? Please sta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 19:11, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines > everywhere. It is not a matter of quantity but severity. $ echo "Dnoe" $ rm -rf / --no-preserve-root Same quantity, somewhat different severity.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines > everywhere. A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree to contain at most 6 wrong lines at any given time. That way any developer wishing to add a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 20:51:09 +0400 Alexander Tsoy wrote: > В Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 > Samuli Suominen пишет: > > > I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, > > pings, ... to genkernel repository for: > > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:14:42 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 30/05/14 19:11, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines > > everywhere. > It is not a matter of quantity but severity. > > $ echo "Dnoe" >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 > A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree > to contain at most 6 wrong lines at any given time. That way any > developer wishing to add a new wrong line must previously fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 01:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 Tom Wijsman > wrote: >> Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines >> everywhere. > > A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 19:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Well, this thread's problem is not severe at all; thus, no need to > mask. I disagree. I'm with ssuominen. Do with that information what you will... - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> I have no plans in inserting my name to genkernel's ChangeLog, >> and I've done my best to contact people (nobody cares) >> >> Only initramfs tool I care and can warmly recommen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ben Kohler wrote: > As nice at it sounds to just DROP these configs, that option is not really > feasible considering the way we currently use genkernel in our handbook. > Relying on the kernel's own defconfig, "genkernel all" will NOT produce the > same mostly-usa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Fabio Erculiani
configs should have never gotten into genkernel in the first place. it's each kernel pkg (or even version) that owns a valid config of itself. I am part of genkernel@ but I have no will nor time to fix it. And when I have, I'd rather work on genkernel-next, that comes with a much more readable init

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2014 01:39 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > configs should have never gotten into genkernel in the first place. > it's each kernel pkg (or even version) that owns a valid config of > itself. > I am part of genkernel@ but I have no will nor time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:32:54 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ben Kohler wrote: > > As nice at it sounds to just DROP these configs, that option is not > > really feasible considering the way we currently use genkernel in > > our handbook. Relying on the kernel's own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:22:54 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > While all this bickering is nice to read, what is really needed is: > > 1. Somebody needs to step up and actually fix genkernel. And that's why we await the maintainers' or undertakers' response. With undertakers, I mean the type of "up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Good idea, we really could use some kind of kernel seeds in the Portage > tree; if someone is willing to maintain them, knowing that Pappy has > maintained them for years and spoke about it it seems like hard work. > > Remember that these "k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:21:20 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 30/05/14 19:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Well, this thread's problem is not severe at all; thus, no need to > > mask. > I disagree. I'm with ssuominen. Do with that information what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:08:50 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tom Wijsman > wrote: > > > > Good idea, we really could use some kind of kernel seeds in the > > Portage tree; if someone is willing to maintain them, knowing that > > Pappy has maintained them for years and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: > Tom Wijsman: > > > > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... > > > > That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single > wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. > > Please p.mask (or patch)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread hasufell
Sven Vermeulen: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: >> Tom Wijsman: >>> >>> Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... >>> >> >> That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single >> wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 30. Mai 2014, 19:14:11 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines > > everywhere. > > A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree > to contain at most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Tsoy
On Fri May 30 22:30:32 2014 Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: > > Tom Wijsman: > > > > > > Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... > > > > > > > That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single > > wrong line in the ke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-05-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 05/28/2014 09:32 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Indeed. I only use a subset of the dev-tools packages so those that I >> don't use will be unmaintained in practice. I will add something to the >> Staffing Needs wiki page but feel free to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Creating a USE_EXPAND for ssl providers

2014-05-30 Thread Peter Stuge
Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > If a user has i.e. SSL="polarssl" in make.conf and emerges things that > don't have polarssl on their list, then those things won't have SSL > support at all, right? Wrong; I would expect emerge to throw an error at me and exit, rather than to fail (build the package with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Creating a USE_EXPAND for ssl providers

2014-05-30 Thread hasufell
Peter Stuge: > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> If a user has i.e. SSL="polarssl" in make.conf and emerges things that >> don't have polarssl on their list, then those things won't have SSL >> support at all, right? > > Wrong; I would expect emerge to throw an error at me and exit, rather > than to fail

[gentoo-dev] Re: Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Steven J. Long
On Fri, May 30, 2014, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 05/30/2014 11:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 > > > > I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( > > > > Please don't p.mask a working program because a config file is wrong

[gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore

2014-05-30 Thread Steven J. Long
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34 > > Samuli Suominen napisał(a): > > > >> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release > >> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Removing src_test from www-client/chromium

2014-05-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 27 May 2014 09:02:37 +0200 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > It's more of a project-internal decision IMHO, but just wanted to get > feedback from the larger community. > > Currently 11 out of 27 bugs assigned to chromium.g.o are related to test > failures. > > I don't remember a single ca