Walter Dnes posted on Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:08:08 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:26:22PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote
>
>> Though of course, if anybody has custom stuff in say,
>> /usr/portage/local/
>> which they make by hand, nuking /usr/portage will make you *Very*
>> unpopular.
>
"Walter Dnes" writes:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:26:22PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote
>
>> Though of course, if anybody has custom stuff in say, /usr/portage/local/
>> which they make by hand, nuking /usr/portage will make you *Very*
>> unpopular.
>
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/han
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:27 -0400
Richard Yao wrote:
> I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
> declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I
> think claiming 2.0 would be merited, if only for the attention it
> would draw at Phoronix.
Do you reall
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then,
> maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining
> the cons of having portage tree on a standard partition and, then, put a
> link to a wiki p
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:56:22AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Do you really want to be advertising an awful hack that doesn't really
> work, is conceptually unsound and that breaks all kinds of things in
> subtle ways?
Isn't that something all major distributions do? ;-)
Sven
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:59:10 +0200
""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote:
> > echo 'import Distribution.Simple; main = defaultMainWithHooks
> > defaultUserHooks' \
> > > $setupdir/Setup.hs
> > }
>
> I think there should be || die after echo, to catch out-of-disk-space
> problems.
Ok :]
> >
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:44:02AM +, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then,
> > maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining
> > the cons of having
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On Mar 31, 2012 11:00 AM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:27 -0400
> Richard Yao wrote:
> > I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
> > declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I
> > think claiming 2.0 would be merited, if o
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> boxes for years without any issues :)
...and here we see the problem. You think that "I haven't n
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> > should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> > boxes for years without
On 03/31/12 17:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
>> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
>> boxes for years without any issues :)
>
> ...and
On 03/31/2012 01:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
@preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable p
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:53 +0100 as excerpted:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander
> wrote:
>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
>> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
>> boxes for years wi
On Mar 31, 2012 12:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> > should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> > boxes for years without any issues
Hi,
recently, I've tried to compile libreoffice using paludis and I've
noticed the following problem:
8< -
kraken ~ # cave resolve libreoffice
Done: 3905 steps
These are the actions I will take, in order:
r app-office/libreoffice:0
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> (or hand me powers to remove people from ML :-)
>
That sounds like a great idea. We could create a code of conduct, and
then designate individuals to enforce it. Maybe we should call them
proctors:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/c
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote:
> I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable
> is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not.
There is no such stage. You mean pkg_pretend, I suppose?
> Therefore I ask, what is the proper behaviour here ? Is there
> d
El sáb, 31-03-2012 a las 08:44 +, Sven Vermeulen escribió:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then,
> > maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining
> > the cons of having p
El sáb, 31-03-2012 a las 02:35 -0700, Brian Harring escribió:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:44:02AM +, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then,
> > > maybe the option would
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples where it
doesn't work, and all that it takes to disprove a theory is a single
counterexample. So I think you're
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:06:36 -0700
Brian Harring wrote:
> > The problem with preserved-libs (and emerge --jobs, for that
> > matter) is that the design is "I can think of a few ways where it
> > might break, so I'll hard-code in special cases to handle those,
> > but in general I can't think of wh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect.
>
> While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you
> have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in theory cover
> 100% of all cases, but it's in your brain where
On 03/31/12 23:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect.
>>
>> While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you
>> have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in theory cover
>
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:07:04 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > If you have a ten components, each of which 98% work, your overall
> > system is 80% reliable. If you have twenty such components, it's
> > down to 66% reliable. You're rapidly entering "when it breaks,
> > reinstall" territory here.
> >
Am Samstag, den 31.03.2012, 14:44 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote:
>
> > I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable
> > is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not.
>
> There is no such stage. You mean pkg_pretend, I s
On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
>
> Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples where it
> doesn't work, and all that it takes to
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > So you think Gentoo should advertise as "the chances of it working
> > are greater than 0%"?
>
> I said better ... not repetitive trolls.
>
> If you cared about making things better you'd spend more time writing
> patches and less time
On 03/31/12 23:38, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>> So you think Gentoo should advertise as "the chances of it working
>>> are greater than 0%"?
>>
>> I said better ... not repetitive trolls.
>>
>> If you cared about making things better you'd
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:39:21 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
> > Alex Alexander wrote:
> > > No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
> >
> > Well that's interesting, because there ar
On 03/31/2012 04:49 AM, Duncan wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:53 +0100 as excerpted:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander
>> wrote:
>>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
>>> should be in stable already. I've been using
On 30 March 2012 14:25, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Back to year 2009?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml
That never stopped anyone before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:59:00 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > I wouldn't care if it weren't the fact your gentoo dev posts
> > generally consist of "xyz is stupid, as is the people behind it"
> > whether it be portage, udev, council, etc, take your pick.
>
> No, what I actually say is *why* th
On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the
> one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs, loop
> mount... I cannot promise anything as I simply don't know how to set
> them.
Squashfs is really simple
Hello.
It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables
with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and
some another:
find . -type f | xargs grep -l EVCS_OFFLINE
./git-2.eclass
./bzr.eclass
find . -type f | xargs grep -l ESCM_OFFLINE
./darcs.ecla
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:49:07 +0400
Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
> Hello.
>
> It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables
> with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and
> some another:
>
> find . -type f | xargs grep -l EVCS_OFFLINE
> ./git-
On 31.03.2012 20:49, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
> Hello.
>
> It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables
> with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and
> some another:
>
> find . -type f | xargs grep -l EVCS_OFFLINE
> ./git-2.eclass
> ./bz
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Tiziano Müller wrote:
>> The spec seems to be clear that T is legal in all phases, including
>> pkg_pretend.
> Well, I'd say: there is no sane value you can assign to $T since you
> are not allowed to write anything anyway:
> "pkg_pretend must not write to the filesyst
2012/3/31 Tiziano Müller :
> Am Samstag, den 31.03.2012, 14:44 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
>> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote:
>>
>> > I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable
>> > is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not.
>>
>> There is no such
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On 03/31/2012 10:52 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander
> wrote:
>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO
>> it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable
>> produc
On 03/31/2012 01:56 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Tiziano Müller wrote:
>> and since "pkg_pretend is run separately from the main phase
>> function sequence, and does not participate in any kind of
>> environment saving" it is not guaranteed to be set to the same $T
>> later
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:42:50AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote
> On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the
> > one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs, loop
> > mount... I cannot promise anything as
On 03/31/2012 04:25 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:42:50AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote
>> On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the
>>> one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs,
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:37:15PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> >> On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
> >
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