On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 09:40:53 -0500
james wrote:
> On 06/16/2016 10:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:59:44 -0500
> > james wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/16/2016 02:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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> >>> On 16/06/16
On 06/16/2016 10:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:59:44 -0500
james wrote:
On 06/16/2016 02:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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On 16/06/16 09:39, Daniel Campbell wrote:
I guess what I mean is these outside developers could conti
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:59:44 -0500
james wrote:
> On 06/16/2016 02:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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> > On 16/06/16 09:39, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >> I guess what I mean is these outside developers could continue
> >> hacking and/or b
On 06/16/2016 02:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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On 16/06/16 09:39, Daniel Campbell wrote:
I guess what I mean is these outside developers could continue
hacking and/or breaking things, or whatever else, without worrying
about their "official" br
On 15/06/16 07:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 05:15:03 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:12:40 +0200
>> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 02:32:41 schrieb Peter Stuge:
>>>
I would personally be super happy to have my overlay ho
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On 16/06/16 09:39, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> I guess what I mean is these outside developers could continue
> hacking and/or breaking things, or whatever else, without worrying
> about their "official" branch. We could have a standard that
> assumes
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On 16/06/16 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> There is overhead in choosing which repositories you want to
> include in your 'upstream'. Even with an automated tool like
> layman, there's maintenance overhead. We'd need another tool to
> assist in disc
On 06/16/2016 12:35 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 16/06/16 09:24, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> To touch on the user repo part.. can't it be as simple as adding
>> one requirement to user repos that wish to be considered as
>> curated?
>
>> Create a "gentoo-ci" branch or something else, and the m
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On 16/06/16 09:24, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> To touch on the user repo part.. can't it be as simple as adding
> one requirement to user repos that wish to be considered as
> curated?
>
> Create a "gentoo-ci" branch or something else, and the maintain
On 06/15/2016 12:22 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 14/06/16 08:48, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> What sort of modularization are you talking about?
> The cheap answer is "as much as possible.
>
>> Would we suggest something like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon,
>> et al getting their own overlays
On 06/15/2016 12:37 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> You've got most things right, Rich. But a couple of comments follow.
>
> On 15/06/16 02:25, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> 1. Developers wouldn't have access to all the ebuilds in the
>> curated repositories. They would only have access to the ones the
Dnia 15 czerwca 2016 08:42:26 CEST, Andrew Savchenko
napisał(a):
>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 05:15:03 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:12:40 +0200
>> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
>>
>> > Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 02:32:41 schrieb Peter Stuge:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I would personally
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You've got most things right, Rich. But a couple of comments follow.
On 15/06/16 02:25, Rich Freeman wrote:
> 1. Developers wouldn't have access to all the ebuilds in the
> curated repositories. They would only have access to the ones they
> con
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On 14/06/16 08:48, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> What sort of modularization are you talking about?
The cheap answer is "as much as possible.
> Would we suggest something like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon,
> et al getting their own overlays? dev-lang
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 05:15:03 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:12:40 +0200
> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
>
> > Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 02:32:41 schrieb Peter Stuge:
> >
> > >
> > > I would personally be super happy to have my overlay hosted at Gentoo -
> > >
> >
> > So
Hi!
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Rich Freeman wrote:
> 1. Developers wouldn't have access to all the ebuilds in the curated
> repositories. They would only have access to the ones they contribute
> to.
> 1a. You could accept a contributor into a small project and not have
> to give them access to the
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:12:40 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 02:32:41 schrieb Peter Stuge:
>
> >
> > I would personally be super happy to have my overlay hosted at Gentoo -
> >
>
> So what precisely is keeping you from that?
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:21:45 +0200
> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
>> Am Montag, 13. Juni 2016, 09:50:15 schrieb Alexander Berntsen:
>> > > I still think you're underestimating the need for centralization.
>> > > What you call a "core/base"
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:21:45 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> Am Montag, 13. Juni 2016, 09:50:15 schrieb Alexander Berntsen:
> > > I still think you're underestimating the need for centralization.
> > > What you call a "core/base" package is probably going to end up
> > > being anything listed
Am Montag, 13. Juni 2016, 09:50:15 schrieb Alexander Berntsen:
>
> > I still think you're underestimating the need for centralization.
> > What you call a "core/base" package is probably going to end up
> > being anything listed in a dependency. That is a LOT of packages,
> > actually - we're not
Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 02:32:41 schrieb Peter Stuge:
>
> I would personally be super happy to have my overlay hosted at Gentoo -
>
So what precisely is keeping you from that?
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Overlays/Overlays_guide
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Gentoo Linux developer
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On 06/14/2016 01:48 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 06/13/2016 11:24 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
In addition to what Peter Stuge (correctly) identifies as needing to
change, there also needs to be a modularisation of Gentoo-curated
package repositories.
What sort of modularization are you talk
On 06/13/2016 11:24 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> In addition to what Peter Stuge (correctly) identifies as needing to
> change, there also needs to be a modularisation of Gentoo-curated
> package repositories.
>
What sort of modularization are you talking about? Would we suggest
something like
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In addition to what Peter Stuge (correctly) identifies as needing to
change, there also needs to be a modularisation of Gentoo-curated
package repositories.
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Consus wrote:
> This is how overlays work right now. What are suggesting to change?
Technically not a lot in terms of how packages get installed.
It's more about offering support and/or visibility for overlays.
So technically it's about hosting user repos, making the ebuilds
within easily discov
On 09:55 Mon 13 Jun, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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> On 10/06/16 17:32, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > On 10/06/16 03:53 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> >> ... Their repositories would likely be amalgamations of our
> >> curated and reviewed repositor
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:15 AM, james wrote:
> and start coding your dream.
I'm not that enthusiastic. It's up to the Gentoo masters if they
would find it helpful to the community or not.
> But the proven pathways, should be left
> intact and receive further documentation, as they are working
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On 13/06/16 10:09, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> Excuse me .. and this thread emerged from deprecating the EXACT
> thing you are suggesting!?
I don't know what you are talking about.
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On 13/06/16 09:54, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> I really think someone needs to do a bit of portageq and see what
> the Tree *actually* contains
>
> Likewise .. a trek through bugzilla would also be enlightening for
> those not familiar ...
>
> On
On 13/06/16 09:04, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 11/06/16 09:00, Michał Górny wrote:
> > If you are not going to maintain your contribution, we can't
> > guarantee it will be accepted. I'm certainly not interested in
> > having to worry about 20 more maintainer-needed packages next month
> > becau
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On 11/06/16 09:00, Michał Górny wrote:
> If you are not going to maintain your contribution, we can't
> guarantee it will be accepted. I'm certainly not interested in
> having to worry about 20 more maintainer-needed packages next month
> because som
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On 10/06/16 18:18, Rich Freeman wrote:
> And my understanding again for Exherbo
And it is wrong again, according to an Exherbo user I talked to.
Please get your Exherbo developer to participate directly, because I
think you are having some trouble co
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On 10/06/16 17:32, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 10/06/16 03:53 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>> ... Their repositories would likely be amalgamations of our
>> curated and reviewed repositories ...
> Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? When
On 13/06/16 08:50, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>
> > I still think you're underestimating the need for centralization.
> > What you call a "core/base" package is probably going to end up
> > being anything listed in a dependency. That is a LOT of packages,
> > actually - we're not just talking about
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On 10/06/16 12:38, Rich Freeman wrote:
> So, I was chatting with an Exherbo dev. Their model isn't quite
> what your earlier emails seemed to suggest (at least as I read
> it).
You should get them to reply to this thread, because...
> As I underst
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On 10/06/16 11:33, Consus wrote:
> That's great, but how are you gonna prevent nodejs-like
> clusterfuck[?]
By not being nodejs. The core repos are curated and reviewed.
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On 06/12/2016 01:10 AM, konsolebox wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:09:39 +0800
konsolebox wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
school, imho.
user--
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:48 PM, james wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 10:09 PM, konsolebox wrote:
>>
>> What matters is the contribution, and the result. If you don't like
>> how a user makes a contribution, don't accept the pull request, or
>> don't merge his package. Simple. If you think that could
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:09:39 +0800
> konsolebox wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
>> > The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
>> > school, imho.
>> > user-->strong-users-->proxy-->
On 12/06/16 04:53, james wrote:
>
> So I read this bug, but it did not illuminate an active archive, but the
> requests and subsequent problems encountered, or did i miss it? It
> looks like the kinks are being worked out. PM having a ML is a great
> idea.
>
>
> Interesting. I found the ML @ game:
On 06/12/2016 04:57 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 06/12/2016 05:53 AM, james wrote:
>
>> I only see (2) posts in the ML, so is it active?
>
> It is a new ML, but it is active to the extent that you should expect to
> see discussion on it
>
To elaborate on this, there were posts on it
On 06/12/2016 05:53 AM, james wrote:
> On 06/11/2016 08:29 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
>> On 06/12/2016 04:20 AM, james wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there an archive to this wonderful list? I cannot seem to find the
>>> archive?
>>
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581370
>>
>
> So I read this
On 06/11/2016 08:29 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
On 06/12/2016 04:20 AM, james wrote:
Is there an archive to this wonderful list? I cannot seem to find the
archive?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581370
So I read this bug, but it did not illuminate an active archive, but the
r
On 06/11/2016 05:52 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:58:35PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote
On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
[snip]
Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user?
(recall irc d
On 06/12/2016 04:20 AM, james wrote:
>
> Is there an archive to this wonderful list? I cannot seem to find the
> archive?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581370
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On 06/11/2016 03:59 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 06/11/2016 01:58 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
There is also a gentoo-proxy-ma...@lists.gentoo.org list for these kinds
of questions that is likely more ap
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:58:35PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote
> On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user?
> >> (recall irc does not work for me). Also, it mi
On 06/11/2016 01:58 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user?
>>> (recall irc does not work for me). Also, it might just spur on other
On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user?
>> (recall irc does not work for me). Also, it might just spur on other
>> users to create/maintain a few packages in their own are
On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote:
> [snip]
>
> Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user?
> (recall irc does not work for me). Also, it might just spur on other
> users to create/maintain a few packages in their own area of interest.
Anyone is welcome to post to either g
On 06/10/2016 10:09 PM, konsolebox wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
school, imho.
user-->strong-users-->proxy-->dev pathway.
Pedantic, bureaucratic, procedure-oriented, monolithic, restrictive.
Too
On 06/10/2016 09:05 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:20:06PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote:
>> (2) any user can edit wiki pages not governed by Projects. Even Project
>> pages I'm sure could be updated by means of patches submitted to the
>> appropriate team, with some basic fo
Presently, the way to make contributions as outlined in [1] is to create
a bugzilla ticket and attach the patch to that ticket. But there is no
community involvement really for this.
A possible model for increasing user-collaboration and promoting user activity:
>From User's POV:
- Do emerge --
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:09:39 +0800
konsolebox wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
> > The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
> > school, imho.
> > user-->strong-users-->proxy-->dev pathway.
>
> Pedantic, bureaucratic, procedure-oriented,
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> It would be wise of us to create a novel way of involving users from
> the ashes of Sunrise.
>
> Here is my suggestion: It would be fruitful to encourage every single
> Gentoo user to have their own repository. And this repository should
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
> The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
> school, imho.
> user-->strong-users-->proxy-->dev pathway.
Pedantic, bureaucratic, procedure-oriented, monolithic, restrictive.
Too conservative.
What matters is the cont
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:16 PM, james wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 08:00 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Exherbo model is not "packages are all over the place and there is
>> no coordination whatsoever". The model is "packages that lots of people
>> use are in a small number of core repositori
On 06/10/2016 10:20 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
On 10/06/16 17:16, james wrote:
And this effort needs a documentation collection to support users,
post installation to their target (ideal stage-4?) collection of
packages; many of which they maintain themselves even if a strong-user
or dev
helps th
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:20:06PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> (2) any user can edit wiki pages not governed by Projects. Even Project
> pages I'm sure could be updated by means of patches submitted to the
> appropriate team, with some basic follow-up to ensure action.
Only users with a wiki acc
On 10/06/16 03:53 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> ... Their repositories
> would likely be amalgamations of our curated and reviewed
> repositories ...
Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? When I read it, it
sounds like you're saying people will copy ebuilds/packages from the
core/review
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> How do you know? What is your experience in the area of coordinating
> work across repos in a Gentoo-style distribution?
I don't have much experience with ebuilds, but I have plenty of
experience with software components distributed across
On 10/06/16 17:16, james wrote:
>
> And this effort needs a documentation collection to support users,
> post installation to their target (ideal stage-4?) collection of
> packages; many of which they maintain themselves even if a strong-user
> or dev
> helps them assimilate those final packages.
On 06/10/2016 08:00 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 06:20:38 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it
right now if we wanted to.
If
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 14:25:08 +0200
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> I would tend to agree with those who have written that coordinating
> work across repos is kind of a pain.
How do you know? What is your experience in the area of coordinating
work across repos in a Gentoo-style distribution?
--
Ciaran
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 06:20:38 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
> > Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it
> > right now if we wanted to.
> >
> >> If so that creates a lot
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:45 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>
> On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote:
>> Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone
>> should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should
>> merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting spli
On 09:53 Fri 10 Jun, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> > So forgive me for being blind .. but we were talking about going
> > -away- from central, curated repositories, and now we've come full
> > circle to the situation we have now with overlays, mostly
> > controlled in some way by gentoo .. so, do t
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On 10/06/16 09:39, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> So forgive me for being blind .. but we were talking about going
> -away- from central, curated repositories, and now we've come full
> circle to the situation we have now with overlays, mostly
> controlled
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On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote:
> Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone
> should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should
> merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting split-repo
> model,
On 10/06/16 08:33, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 09/06/16 12:28, Igor Savlook wrote:
> > Ok how coordinate? Example: I install packageA in exherbo from
> > repository1 and packageA denend on packageB on repository2. Now
> > packageB removed from repository2 and exherbo crash on install
> > package
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On 09/06/16 12:28, Igor Savlook wrote:
> Ok how coordinate? Example: I install packageA in exherbo from
> repository1 and packageA denend on packageB on repository2. Now
> packageB removed from repository2 and exherbo crash on install
> package or
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On 09/06/16 12:20, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Perhaps you could explain how they actually prevent the issues I
> brought up?
You should probably ask the Exherbo developers, not me.
>
> Suppose you have 10 packages, and they each depend on zlib from a
>
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 15:16:57 +0200
Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> It would be wise of us to create a novel way of involving users from
> the ashes of Sunrise.
>
> Here is my suggestion: It would be fruitful to encourage every single
> Gentoo user to have their own repository. And this repository sho
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> If you mean that we should go with what is currently popular, then
> that would be Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, and to a lesser degree
> Ubuntu. But I'm not sure what that mental exercise affords us. I am
> more concerned with how we can
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>
> On 09/06/16 12:14, Johannes Huber wrote:
>> This statement is not feeded with numbers. Distrowatch tells
>> something else.
> I don't know what "feeded" means. Distrowatch is useless for anything
> but figuring out what distros are popu
On 06/09/2016 12:38 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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On 08/06/16 16:53, Consus wrote:
How all those people are expected to coordinate their work?
I don't want to control this. That's up to them. It works well in
Exherbo and NixOS. But I agree that t
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On 09/06/16 12:14, Johannes Huber wrote:
> This statement is not feeded with numbers. Distrowatch tells
> something else.
I don't know what "feeded" means. Distrowatch is useless for anything
but figuring out what distros are popular among people wh
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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> On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
> Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it right now
> if we w
Am Mittwoch 08 Juni 2016, 15:16:57 schrieb Alexander Berntsen:
> In the end, Gentoo might make a gigantic leap into the future with a
> truly modular distribution. If anyone wants to look at distros that
> get this more right than Gentoo, have a look at e.g. NixOS and Exherbo.
This statement is no
On 09/06/16 10:58, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 09/06/16 11:55, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > According to Enigmail, it expired April 19th.
> I suggest you refresh your keys. My signing subkey was signed April
> 20th and expires in 2017.
>
Indeed, cache error, thanks. All square now.
MJE
signat
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On 09/06/16 11:55, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> According to Enigmail, it expired April 19th.
I suggest you refresh your keys. My signing subkey was signed April
20th and expires in 2017.
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On 06/09/2016 02:53 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 09/06/16 10:48, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>> On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote:
>> > Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex.
>> It doesn't expire until next year.
>>
>>
>
> I'll blame it on Enigmail, but this is the information I'm seein
On 09/06/16 10:48, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> > Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex.
> It doesn't expire until next year.
>
>
I'll blame it on Enigmail, but this is the information I'm seeing:
"EXPIRED KEY Good signature from "Alexander Berntsen
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On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex.
It doesn't expire until next year.
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On 09/06/16 01:08, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Sigh. Every 2 years somebody else comes up with the same silly
> idea.
I stopped reading your email after this sentence.
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On 09/06/16 10:37, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 08/06/16 16:39, Zac Medico wrote:
> > The first obstacle that comes to my mind is how to discover the
> > packages. There needs to be a central index of repositories which
> > includes searchable metadata for all of the packages provided by
> > thos
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On 08/06/16 18:15, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Do NOT - I repeat NOT - tie "user repos" to GitHub Inc.
If I were in charge or to be involved, I would not even dream about
tying users to a proprietary SaaS. That would be highly unethical in
my view.
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On 08/06/16 17:53, james wrote:
>> DEAL?
No thanks.
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On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it right now
if we wanted to.
> If so that creates a lot of potential issues, even if you
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On 08/06/16 16:53, Consus wrote:
> How all those people are expected to coordinate their work?
I don't want to control this. That's up to them. It works well in
Exherbo and NixOS. But I agree that tooling to support it would be
useful.
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On 08/06/16 16:39, Zac Medico wrote:
> The first obstacle that comes to my mind is how to discover the
> packages. There needs to be a central index of repositories which
> includes searchable metadata for all of the packages provided by
> those re
On 06/08/2016 11:21 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:07:06 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so
>> that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and some devs
>> host things on there, but it's
Hi!
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:07:06 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote:
> There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so
> that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and some devs
> host things on there, but it's nothing officially endorsed or otherwise
> required by Gen
On 09/06/16 15:31, NP-Hardass wrote:
> On 06/09/2016 01:03 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> [...]
>> Proxy-maint team: do you guys feel that your project and/or process are
>> a suitable starting point to becoming a proper Gentoo developer?
> As with everything, it depends on the individual. One can c
On 06/09/2016 01:03 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
[...]
> Proxy-maint team: do you guys feel that your project and/or process are
> a suitable starting point to becoming a proper Gentoo developer?
As with everything, it depends on the individual. One can certainly cut
their teeth and learn/contribute
On 06/08/2016 10:54 AM, james wrote:
> On 06/08/2016 11:27 AM, Nathan Zachary wrote:
>>
>>> GitHub Inc. is successful because they host a central location with
>>> "all the code on the Internet"; convenient for consumers and
>>> producers alike. Of course it is a fallacy, but it's convenient
>>> wh
On 06/08/2016 08:53 AM, james wrote:
> On 06/08/2016 08:16 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> Friends,
>
> It would be wise of us to create a novel way of involving users from
> the ashes of Sunrise.
>
> Here is my suggestion: It would be fruitful to encourage every single
> Gentoo user to have thei
On 09/06/16 09:08, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>
>> This could lead to a future where the Gentoo tree is largely
>> superseded. Every user would just have their own repository, where
>> they could pick and choose packages from other users. The Gentoo tree
>> would just focus on a high-quality reposi
On 09/06/16 00:08, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>
> > This could lead to a future where the Gentoo tree is largely
> > superseded. Every user would just have their own repository, where
> > they could pick and choose packages from other users. The Gentoo tree
> > would just focus on a high-quality rep
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> This could lead to a future where the Gentoo tree is largely
> superseded. Every user would just have their own repository, where
> they could pick and choose packages from other users. The Gentoo tree
> would just focus on a high-quality reposi
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