[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-28 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner posted on Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:53:03 -0700 as excerpted: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> I'd argue that it is impossible to "accept a license" in the >> first place.  It is possible to agree to a contract if there is >> consideration on both sides and a meet

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > That doesn't mean you didn't / cannot accept, merely that some (all?) > provisions are likely unenforceable in a court of law. I don't think > EULAs have been ruled illegal yet. I doubt that my proclamation that you aren't allowed to eat break

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> Didn't the user already accept the license by putting it in ACCEPT_LICENSE? >>  If not, portage will not download it. >> > > Well, I'd argue that it is impossible to "accept a lice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-28 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2012.04.27 18:38, Rich Freeman wrote: [snip] > Do we as a matter of policy want to respect broken click-through > download implementations? > > Rich > Yes we do. Intent it what counts in the eyes of the law in most places. Sites with broken click-throughs intend for them to be used. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
We have had a talk about yEd on #gentoo-dev which is worth attaching here: <@ulm> aidecoe: I suspect that yEd is in violation of the GPL :/ <@ulm> their package zip file includes JavaHelp classes but no source code for them <@ulm> and I also don't see it at their site <@ulm> neither do th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Didn't the user already accept the license by putting it in ACCEPT_LICENSE? >  If not, portage will not download it. > Well, I'd argue that it is impossible to "accept a license" in the first place. It is possible to agree to a contract

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 27/04/12 20:38, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: And this is probably the case when user has to accept a license on the website. This is URL for zip archive of yEd-3.9.1: http://www.yworks.com/en/products_download.php?file=yEd-3.9.1.zip It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > > And this is probably the case when user has to accept a license on the > website.  This is URL for zip archive of yEd-3.9.1: > >  http://www.yworks.com/en/products_download.php?file=yEd-3.9.1.zip > > It directs to website with license

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
> I'd like to add attached license to portage/licenses/. Any objections? Because there seem to be no objection wrt license itself, I've just committed it. I'll wait with adding ebuild until we get some consensus wrt RESTRICT=fetch/mirror. -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from William Hubbs's message of 2012-04-27 16:34:05 +0200: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:26:07PM +, Duncan wrote: > > Amadeusz Żołnowski posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:45:36 +0200 as > > excerpted: > > > > > Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: > > >> No distribu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Tho FWIW I think restrict=fetch applies to stuff like cd/dvd-based game > data as well, where the agreement is on the cd not a website, but still > requires specific click-thru. I think the real determiner should almost alway

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:34:05 -0500 as excerpted: > Restrict=fetch is used when a user has to go to a web site and register > or accept a license on the web site before they download the file the > way I understand it. Thanks. I thought restrict=fetch was for when a website a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:26:07PM +, Duncan wrote: > Amadeusz Żołnowski posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:45:36 +0200 as excerpted: > > > Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: > >> No distribution allowed. You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, > >> correct? > > > > Wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: >> No distribution allowed.  You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, >> correct? > > Why RESTRICT=mirror? I'd put RESTRICT=fetch, actually. > I don't see much point in using

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Duncan
Amadeusz Żołnowski posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:45:36 +0200 as excerpted: > Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: >> No distribution allowed. You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, >> correct? > > Why RESTRICT=mirror? I'd put RESTRICT=fetch, actually. That works. RES

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Duncan's message of 2012-04-27 15:38:20 +0200: > No distribution allowed. You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, > correct? Why RESTRICT=mirror? I'd put RESTRICT=fetch, actually. -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Duncan
Amadeusz Żołnowski posted on Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:30:32 +0200 as excerpted: > This license would go to EULA group. Is this correct? That appears to be correct to me, yes. No distribution allowed. You're going to be doing restrict=mirror, correct? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTM

[gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-27 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
This license would go to EULA group. Is this correct? -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature.asc Description: PGP signature