Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:27:02 +0100 "Steven J. Long" wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2013: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > "Steven J. Long" wrote: > > > > > The core system has to be a usable basis to build "everything" > > > from. > > > > I do agree with this except for "shaky"; it is a nice goal to > > purs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-23 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013: Tom Wijsman wrote: > "Steven J. Long" wrote: > > > The core system has to be a usable basis to build "everything" from. > > I do agree with this except for "shaky"; it is a nice goal to pursue... > > That still does not make us able to do it or make it a realistic goal. Bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:34:58 +0100 "Steven J. Long" wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Let's say that I were to develop a system with some other Gentoo > > devs; that doesn't mean we are able to make everything in the tree > > support that system, making it an usable tool for everything is > > unrea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Steven J. Long
Tom Wijsman wrote: > Let's say that I were to develop a system with some other Gentoo devs; > that doesn't mean we are able to make everything in the tree support > that system, making it an usable tool for everything is unrealistic This isn't just "any tool" though: it's the core init-system. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:45 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 08/08/2013 08:21 AM, Duncan wrote: >> >> None-the-less, I do understand the problem of a gentoo project supporting >> an option no devs on the project are actually interested in running. > > I do not. If that is the policy, then the project is d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread hasufell
On 08/08/2013 08:21 AM, Duncan wrote: > > None-the-less, I do understand the problem of a gentoo project supporting > an option no devs on the project are actually interested in running. I do not. If that is the policy, then the project is doing something wrong.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 08:27:58 + as excerpted: > Daniel Campbell posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 01:26:47 -0500 as excerpted: > >> [Duncan wrote...] Ooopps! That too... WAS intended to be sent privately. I goofed! Sorry everyone! (Note to self, change the followup BEFORE you start

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Duncan
Daniel Campbell posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 01:26:47 -0500 as excerpted: > [Duncan wrote...] >> Gentoo/gnome is simply working with what upstream gnome gives them, >> which for gentoo/gnome users now means a choice between gnome with >> systemd and if no systemd, no gnome either. Upstream decision

KDE/semantic-desktop, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 8. August 2013, 08:21:47 schrieb Duncan: > ... > > [Those uninterested in gentoo/kde can stop reading here, as the rest of > the post is a complaint about that project not taking the same position.] > > Gentoo/kde users would be so lucky! > > As a gentoo/kde-er, I *WISH* the gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/08/2013 01:21 AM, Duncan wrote: > Alex Alexander posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 05:51:38 +0300 as excerpted: > >> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: >> >>> On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: > >>>

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Duncan
Alex Alexander posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 05:51:38 +0300 as excerpted: > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: >> > On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: >> >> >> >> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilizati