Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-09-2012 10:28:26 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:25:05 +0200 > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 10-09-2012 09:32:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > So really we should just not support prefix at all in any EAPI > > > before 5, and not have the whole "but define those p

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:25:05 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 10-09-2012 09:32:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > So really we should just not support prefix at all in any EAPI > > before 5, and not have the whole "but define those prefix variables > > anyway" hack in eclasses. But apparently pe

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-09-2012 09:32:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > So really we should just not support prefix at all in any EAPI before > 5, and not have the whole "but define those prefix variables anyway" > hack in eclasses. But apparently people are preferring to go to great > lengths not to have to use ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:18:56 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote: > Normally, if you use a USE-flag, you add them to IUSE of the ebuild. > However, some USE-flags have been considered too general to put them > in there in the past. That's not exactly why. Historically (as in, way before EAPI days) IUSE wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 07-09-2012 16:38:15 -0700, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > On 9/7/2012 10:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > With the introduction of IMPLICIT_IUSE (scheduled for EAPI 5), a phrase > > has been added to PMS, that finally makes a statement on what's supposed > > to be in IUSE, and what not[2]. To me, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-07 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 9/7/2012 10:32 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: With the introduction of IMPLICIT_IUSE (scheduled for EAPI 5), a phrase has been added to PMS, that finally makes a statement on what's supposed to be in IUSE, and what not[2]. To me, this patch means that things like userland_BSD, elibc_glibc, etc. d

Re: [gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:32:12 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote: > mgorny opened up a bug[1], which requests for all eclasses that use > the 'prefix' USE-flag to be "fixed" to add 'prefix' to IUSE. Please do not suggest that I am the one requesting this to be "fixed". I just have opened the bug because C

[gentoo-dev] On flags being in IUSE (and the prefix USE-flag in particular)

2012-09-07 Thread Fabian Groffen
All, mgorny opened up a bug[1], which requests for all eclasses that use the 'prefix' USE-flag to be "fixed" to add 'prefix' to IUSE. While the 'prefix' USE-flag has since its introduction belonged to that group of USE-flags that are not supposed to be set by the user him/herself, it is not cover