[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2017-09-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
additional dependencies -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Prevent to need to change all keywords at the same time

2014-07-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El jue, 17-07-2014 a las 23:14 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> I recently noticed this: >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502836 >>> >>> imlib2 ebuild can only be stabilized in one round for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Prevent to need to change all keywords at the same time

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
rit line does overwrite anything set by the eclass? So i dont really see, what the issue here actually should be. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
comrel would have to take disciplinary action (e.g. commit access removal). With this in mind, i currently dont see any case where QA would need the ability to remove the commit access of a dev, so i dont see a need for this glep update. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
t to avoid broken dependency trees), but afterwards this solution should mean an adjusted amount of stable packages for each arch and no permanent additional work for the maintainer. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-15 Thread Thomas Sachau
ome time the workload matches the abilities of the arch team again. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
manager based multilib solution, which requires no changes to ebuilds. This also keeps a choice for users, who cant or dont want to convert all needed ebuilds to the new multilib eclasses. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
multilib support. Noone will opt to revert/convert those changes once multilib-portage would be ready, so the eclasses win simply by the lower entrance barrier In the end multilib-portage will likely end as a portage-only feature allowing multilib-support on packages without the need to change eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
or is everyone with separate /usr forced to use an initramfs? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Thomas Sachau schrieb: > Ulrich Mueller schrieb: >>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >>> workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function >>> checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: > On 25/08/13 10:15 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: > >>> workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the >>> function checking for the current ABI (always true wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
it is a cleaner solution for multilib-portage, since i dont have to internally overwrite an eclass function, but that is just a side effect, since this issue never blocked multilib-portage. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-09-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
someone will instantly step up. Keep in mind, that proper mentoring includes a good amount of time to invest, so when someone notices that you are already around for some time and did not quickly disappear again, they may be more willing to assist you in your task of becoming a dev. So with this said, i am not sure, if such a central contact point will really improve the situation, it may instead result in a lot of churn, since people loose interest on their way to dev or shortly after. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > Dnia 2013-08-25, o godz. 21:34:09 > Thomas Sachau napisał(a): > >> Ulrich Mueller schrieb: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >>>> workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ulrich Mueller schrieb: >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function >> checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without >> only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI)

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
multilib_is_native_abi() can still be used, when really just one build is needed for everyone Happy bikesh(r)edding -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --- /usr/portage/eclass/multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-08 20:57:54.0 +0200 +++ multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-25 15:28:10.0 +0200 @@ -373,7

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >>>> As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 > Ian Stakenvicius napisał(a): > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 > >> On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please >> dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done >> for some packages. >> >

[gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
none-default ABIs. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] netsurf.eclass proposal

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
n custom hacks for all consumers and for the complete lifetime of the consumers. If you want to add such wrapper, you can look into the multilib-portage overlay for such a wrapper, which has now been working and tested for some years. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michael Palimaka schrieb: > On 22/05/2013 20:07, viv...@gmail.com wrote: >> On 05/22/13 11:43, Michael Palimaka wrote: >>> On 22/05/2013 19:22, viv...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On 05/21/13 23:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>>>> Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 15

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina schrieb: > On 05/21/2013 09:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." schrieb: >>>> Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr." schrieb: > On 5/21/13 6:38 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> And if a maintainer is not responding within 30 days, you can ping him >> or, without a response, try to get a different maintainer. Just assuming >> that a stable request is ok without a ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Markos Chandras schrieb: > On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." schrieb: >>> Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs >>> (there is a package name and maintainer name regex in the script). You >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb: > Thomas Sachau schrieb: >> Uhm, automagic stabilization without maintainer ok? This sounds like a >> bad idea. Doing a batch CC-ing after maintainer gave his ok or >> anything similar, which starts, when someone actually aproved the >

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
may get packages become stable, which are not intended to become so and should have never been there. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: emul-linux-x86-xlibs deps being replaced in gx86

2013-04-26 Thread Thomas Sachau
sonal view. You partly duplicated my work and need to be pushed hard to also add the features i have already developed and tested (like headers wrapping and binary wrapping). So i am rather amused about your behaviour and attitude to code/features already developed and tested in multilib-portage then anything else. ;-) -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] multilib-build: use MULTILIB_ABI for eclass-specific ABI value

2013-04-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
#x27; fallback no longer calls > multilib_toolchain_setup. This should improve compatibility with > multilib-portage and *maybe* cross-compiling. You know, that multilib-portage does use MULTILIB_ABI as USE-expanded variable? Using exactly the same in the eclass will call for collision issues. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:59:35 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >> I dont have a list of binaries, i either noticed myself some >> abi-specific behaviour or got user reports for abi-specific behaviour. >> As an example i remember, dev-libs/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Davide Pesavento schrieb: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>> On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> dev-db/mysql abiwrapper >>>> dev-lang/perl abiwrapper >>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-07 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> dev-db/mysql abiwrapper >> dev-lang/perl abiwrapper >> dev-lang/python abiwrapper >> dev-lang/ruby abiwrapper >> dev-libs/gobject-introspection abiwrapper >> dev-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
visible to users who shouldn't care about it. If >>> they do, they're looking for multilib-portage. >> >> To some extent that's what happened to python too :) As a python >> maintainer, you could share your thoughts on the topic. python slotting >> was intended to make switching between python versions easy but has >> been needing wrappers for the python binary. > > I'm doing just that. Any kind of wrapping is an increasing mess. I'm > still trying to find out good solutions for Python wrapping but there's > no such thing. It's always about choosing one evil over the other. So you are wrapping python, have not yet found anything better and still dont want to wrap abi-specific binaries, while you dont have a better solution at hand? Saying no to everything is easy, providing something better if you dont like a suggestion is the challenge. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
imal list, there are probably more out there we did not yet catch): dev-db/mysql abiwrapper dev-lang/perl abiwrapper dev-lang/python abiwrapper dev-lang/ruby abiwrapper dev-libs/gobject-introspection abiwrapper dev-libs/libIDL abiwrapper dev-scheme/guile abiwrapper net-libs/courier-authlib abiwrapper dev-qt/qtcore abiwrapper dev-qt/qtgui abiwrapper media-libs/fontconfig abiwrapper www-servers/apache abiwrapper x11-libs/pango abiwrapper x11-libs/gtk+ abiwrapper Keep in mind, that multilib-portage does always and unconditionally wrap *-config binaries. If you dont want to add that logic to the eclass, you need to add all packages providing such files to the list. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:27:50 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>> On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >>>> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>> On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> >>>> Once the eclass has per-ABI header >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >> Once the eclass has per-ABI header > > I think this is needed. > >> and binaries support, > > but here, could you enlighten me on its use cases ? I can't imagi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
ake it > possible to use the global flags from multilib-portage as well. > > What are your thoughts? > Once the eclass has per-ABI header and binaries support, i would see multilib-portage as fallback option for packages/arches, which dont yet have multilib support via eclass. So i am ok with the USE flag names. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/freetype: freetype-2.4.11-r1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
s provided for > different arches (that looks to be the key problem that mgorny tried to > solve in freetype) > multilib-portage has no issues with abi-specific headers, since those are installed into a seperate abi-specific location inside /usr/include with a wrapper in the origi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/freetype: freetype-2.4.11-r1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
for issues (freetype headers) forcing other devs to do more work instead of asking for another solution not needing any additional work for depending packages. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] prune_libtool_files: make pkg-config optional, add a sed fallback.

2013-02-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
tPKG_CONFIG) > + local pkgconf=$(tc-getPKG_CONFIG)1 Typo? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
added for every new dev by his recruiter, so you only have to update those entries yourself, when your key changes. ;-) -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] x86 multilib flags, ver. 2

2013-01-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
files like headers or binaries and cases like binaries with abi-specific content? Is it possible to preserve them for all requested abis or to preserve them for an non-default abi? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Gilles Dartiguelongue schrieb: > Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 00:01 +0100, Thomas Sachau a écrit : >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> Hello, >>> >>> There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be >>> a good moment to decide on how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
ce amount of > user-visible/storable metadata in main tree. No slightest idea > how it would look like though. > Support for cross-compiling packages for toolchain-supported ABIs already exists and works for some years in multilib-portage (code in the multilib branch of portage git repo, ebuild in the multilib-portage overlay with very basic setup instructions in the doc dir of the overlay and the #gentoo-multilib-overlay channel in freenode for questions). -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
our thoughts? Which arches would like to use multilib? What > names for ABIs do you suggest? > So you want to re-implement multilib-portage in an eclass without the additional benefits a package-manager level implementation has? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El mar, 25-09-2012 a las 10:21 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:13 +0200 >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >>> It is not hard by itself to inherit an eclass. There is just the >>> limitation, that occurs with

Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change?

2012-11-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: > On 23/11/12 09:32 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: >>> On 22/11/12 11:22 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 11:11

Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change?

2012-11-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
t; touch -- ie, can touch *DEPEND, can bump EAPI, cannot add features, > cannot bump)? > > Thoughts? > > > What certain things do you have in mind? In wich situation do you see a simple "May i touch the package?/ok for this patch?" as too much to do before touching a package? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [python-single-r1 1/3] A conceptual eclass for packages not supporting multiple Python impls.

2012-11-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
to clarify this: What exactly does "it finds the enabled implementation" mean? Is it defined by the user (via a USE flag) or based on eselect-python target? How does a dev define the implementation to be used and how does the package manager output look like for sucht a package? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Additional USE_EXPAND variables: E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ben de Groot schrieb: > On 14 November 2012 05:13, Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Alexis Ballier schrieb: >>> - considering gentoo generally uses e-prefixed names (econf, emake, >>> etc.) maybe its wiser to name the variables E17_* instead of only >>> E_*, o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Additional USE_EXPAND variables: E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF

2012-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:41:05 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> If there are no objections, i plan to add E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF >> to the list of USE_EXPAND variables for x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17, in >> the next days. >> > &

[gentoo-dev] Additional USE_EXPAND variables: E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF

2012-11-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
If there are no objections, i plan to add E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF to the list of USE_EXPAND variables for x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17, in the next days. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: > [...] >> And finally, as already pointed out by Rich, you should not talk about >> any specific EAPI you like/prefer/want to be used everyhwere, but >> instead about the issue you want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >>>> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>>>> El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thoma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >>>> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>>>> I volunteer to do whatever conversions you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find >>> if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
witch to the latest avaidable EAPI. As already written in this thread, it would just mean less new ebuilds and less version bumps with such a policy. And i also prefer more work done with older EAPI versions around then less ebuilds/new versions with latest EAPI. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
rom english nor german and neither do i see any benefit from adding a dot at the end of the DESCRIPTION variable. So if you want to have a unified behaviour all over the tree, i would request all descriptions to be without the final dot. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:52 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: >>>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 >>>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >>> Matt Turner schrieb: >>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>>>> I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
it accepted sooner, instead of this additional workaround for a subset of packages. P.S.: I know, that users, who want up-to-date 32bit drivers for games and wine do use multilib-portage, so we already have a working solution for this issue. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI usage

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
27;t > exist. > Like package managers? Sorry, but this is not true, since you can never assume, that older EAPIs dont exist any more (even a simple EAPI-0 ebuild, which never needed a bump, is enough), so older EAPI versions have to be supported forever. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI usage

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
fix the issue, so you dont have to even think about the EAPI. And if there is no maintainer, you can take and bump it. And if noone wants to maintain it, it will be dropped at some point. So you can bump whatever you maintain, just still the question: Why force this on everyone else? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] package up for grab: dev-vcs/subversion

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
and the selection of a new stable candidate to remove some issues with the current stable version. So if anyone is interested in this package and/or would like to reduce the response time, feel free to take this package. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 >>> William Hubbs wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
u asked and i write it this time again: NO! Beside that, the last time i wrote you a mail about this topic, where you did not respond at all. So please read it again and answer it. Such change should be properly checked, before we even think about the idea of such a switch. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:23:39 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> Hello, all. >>> >>> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two >>> libudev providers: >=sys-apps/system

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
nd the virtual. So we should first sort that point out, before we even start to think about an ebuild for an udev virtual. So for now: A clear no, i am against adding a virtual/libudev ebuild. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
Matt Turner schrieb: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Matt Turner schrieb: >>> I suppose that's just for ease of implementation? Not having to >>> special-case packages that don't install binaries. >> >> I dont follow. Did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
Zac Medico schrieb: > On 07/01/2012 04:29 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Matt Turner schrieb: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
Matt Turner schrieb: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Matt Turner schrieb: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
Luca Barbato schrieb: > On 06/29/2012 04:30 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > > It is interesting, still you need a way to define HOST dependencies > (stuff you need that has to be built on the host since you run it, e.g. > xcb python code generator), something to play properly with ld

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
Matt Turner schrieb: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> > > I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- > packages and also because multilib is pretty important for mips. > >> If a package has dependencies, th

GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5))

2012-06-29 Thread Thomas Sachau
while crossdev is using a different toolchain for the targets. Of course, if someone from crossdev maintainers wants to comment, he is free to do so. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer GLEP: XXX Title: Crosscompile support for multilib profiles Version: $Revision: 1.4 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 20

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Brian Harring schrieb: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:54:07PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: >>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:16:39 +0200 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> Since there is again no response at all, it seems like everyone is ok &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:16:39 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Since there is again no response at all, it seems like everyone is ok >> with this, so i will propose to add this to the next council agenda >> for EAPI-5 addition. > > Got a d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Thomas Sachau schrieb: > Duncan schrieb: >> Thomas Sachau posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:31:40 +0200 as excerpted: >> >>> Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am >>> presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for >

Re: [gentoo-dev] spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Luca Barbato schrieb: > On 06/16/2012 12:31 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am >> presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for >> improvement. > > Currently I'm experimenting

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dynamic SLOTs

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:46:00 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >>>> Beside that, it seems to solve things pretty similar to the >>>> proposed way in multilib-portage for cross-compiling (which could >>>> also be adapted for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dynamic SLOTs

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:09:14 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have prepared a first draft of 'dynamic SLOT' specification. This >>> is my proposal in attempt to solve

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dynamic SLOTs

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
tilib-portage for cross-compiling (which could also be adapted for multi-slot languages) with different wording and with additional work for ebuild maintainers. And since my proposal already uses USE flags, things would not change visually for users of e.g. ruby or php. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Duncan schrieb: > Thomas Sachau posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:31:40 +0200 as excerpted: > >> Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am >> presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for >> improvement. > > Just a format

[gentoo-dev] spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for improvement. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer For amd64 users, there is sometimes the issue, that they need 32bit libs for certain packages (e.g. wine

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git braindump: 2 of N: developer interaction (merge co-ordinators)

2012-06-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
more an issue for people, who do work on the tree while being offline and who then have to resolve the conflicts, when they get a connection again. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new feature to disable merging into stray locations

2012-04-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
i in $(find ${D} -name *.{pyc,pyo}) ; do [[ -e ${i/${D}/${ROOT}/} ]] && rm ${i/${D}/${ROOT}/} done fi Alternatively, you could take all .py files of the installed versions and blindly remove the pyo/pyc files for them in pkg_preinst (this should also prevent leaving dead files around). -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Formal spec writing for cross-compile support in EAPI-5

2012-03-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
nted). Thanks in advance to anyone helping with this. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecate EAPI1?

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
PI for whatever reason, why should he not be allowed to do so? He has to maintain it and any EAPI changes. Additionally, an ebuild with a lower EAPI may already exist for a long time, this would force the dev to convert it to a newer EAPI to be allowed to add it to the main tree, also the existing ebuild works just fine. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Sachau
am pretty sure, that noone will complain. So from my point of view, i currently dont see any need for a special field in metadata.xml to specify the natural name of a package. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:06:11 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100 >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >>>> 2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> 2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of udev) >> 3. some wrapper script to mount /usr before udev starts > > These two should be really discouraged as a cheap, temp

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
ut much additional work. There is no need to do such migration beforehand or changing our install location in advance. So in short: 1. Tell our users about the change in udev and show them their options with a suggested default one. 2. for the rest, just calm down, follow upstreams and only change the install location where needed. No need for mental pressure without an actual pressure. ;-) -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Zac Medico schrieb: > On 11/13/2011 03:09 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Zac Medico schrieb: >>> On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>>> Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things >>>> (adding quiet-build=n to the >

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Zac Medico schrieb: > On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things (adding >> quiet-build=n to the >> default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log) and what i >> or others do

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Amadeusz Żołnowski schrieb: > Excerpts from Thomas Sachau's message of 2011-11-13 14:59:57 +0100: >> How is that an argument for default quiet build? It is exactly the >> same argument against default quiet build. If someone does not care, >> he does not care about the output being verbose or not,

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Amadeusz Żołnowski schrieb: > Excerpts from Thomas Sachau's message of 2011-11-13 13:39:17 +0100: >> This can be argued from either side, if the default is verbose, you >> can make it quiet in the default emerge opts and the other way round. >> So this is no argument for or against default quiet bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: good point. we don't want to punish old portage users. let's enable it by default in portage itself then. just add `elog` output to the portage ebuild to in

Re: [gentoo-dev] python.eclass EAPI 4 support, this gets really annoying

2011-10-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr." schrieb: > On 10/14/11 12:39 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 03:29:19PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:16 PM, "Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr." >>> wrote: OK, so what are the _blocking_ reasons for no EAPI 4 support in python.eclass yet?

proposal for cross-compie support in EAPI-5, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
Thomas Sachau schrieb: > Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: >> Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > 1) USE-flag based support to cross-compile packages (mostly implemented in > multilib-portage) let me extend this a bit, first the reasoning behind it: For amd64 users, there is sometim

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:28:24 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: >> Is a x86/amd64/x32 multilib profile just going to provide toolchain >> support for x32 binaries (like x86 in a x86/amd64 multilib profile), or >> do we want a 'full' x32 profile, where every package is bui

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