Zac Medico schrieb:
The primary reason to use a digest for cache validation instead of a
timestamp is that it allows the cache validation mechanism to work
even if the tree is distributed with a protocol that does not
preserve timestamps, such as git or subversion. This would make it
possible to
This is way overdue for us but uni work kept me busy, so I just didn't
have the time yet.
Please test all your apps against 2.4 series (desktop profiles have a
dep on that by default, so likely a large part of our users will be
affected)
I filed a Tracker bug [1] if you have issues, please r
Richard Freeman schrieb:
> Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it make much more sense to package move ksudoku then?
>>
>
> I was thinking the same thing - this is a stable package, so ideally it
> shouldn't be "replaced" with an unstable one. Why not keep -0.4 in the
> tree for stable users?
Alec Warner schrieb:
> I think the question isn't 'why is this functionality being made
> available'; I think to me it is useful piece of code.
>
> I question its inclusion in the PM though; I would rather see it in
> eutils or something similar.
>
> Arguably you could inherit a function from eut
Robin H. Johnson schrieb:
Hi folks,
Getting the bot out there
-
If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troub
hat popped
up yesterday regarding this stuff, I'd say we can't really take this
serious. The PMS maintainers were withholding information on
compatibility issues they've seen.
As such we can't be sure this will pop up again in the future and so I
strongly suggest dismissin
Josh Saddler schrieb:
Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council
members (again):
amne
betelgeuse
dberkholz
flameeyes
jokey
lu_zero
vapier
Thanks, I accept the nomination :)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Denis Dupeyron schrieb:
That he comes back or not is of no importance to bug wrangling. Or at
least it should be. It is a mistake to solely rely on a developer for
such a task. Developers come and go without warning, he just proved
it, so ideally we need a team of 2 or 3 to handle bug wrangling.
Petteri Räty schrieb:
Joinin us from Graz, Austria is Michael "mueli" Hammer. He will be
joining us to maintain kerberos related packages. Michael is responsible
for the infrastructure at the Graz University of Technology and they run
Gentoo of course. So no longer do you have to think about mo
+# Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (21 Apr 2008)
+# Masked for removal in 30 days.
+# unmaintained, broken and not used anywhere
+# use dev-python/fuse-python instead
+sys-fs/python-fuse
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Mark Loeser schrieb:
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
that's actually exactly what i'm encouraging. i'm not worried about such
issues as they're easily resolved by people posting the full build log.
Which is great, but I think this is something we should discuss and
figure out if this
René 'Necoro' Neumann schrieb:
I'm not a gentoo-dev - and I did not read the whole thread, because it
was too political for me (do I really have to read all these IRC quotes?).
+1, this stuff belongs to the -project mailinglist
But I just had an idea for this topic (don't know if anyone had t
Welcome on board!
Don't break my stable servers though :D
Make your self at home.
Greetz
-Jokey
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Zhang Le schrieb:
IMO giving proxy-maintainer due credit and publicity, meaning make it a formal
position, could solve the very problem Anant's proposal intended to solve.
we had that in the past already yet it didn't solve one problem at hand:
users getting distacted and devs getting nervous b
Steve Long schrieb:
Ferris McCormick wrote:
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This is random musing based based on perhaps my own problems.
I need a local color.file to see well what I have going on, and
current xorg ignores that. Thus, at every build, there is in
oscolor.c a "c
Denis Dupeyron schrieb:
Please everybody, give a very warm welcome to Ingmar.
Oh noes, you made it ;)
*welcome* :=)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Hi all,
here is the summary from last week's council meeting.
The complete log can be found at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
Thanks,
Markus
Roll call
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(here, proxy [by whom] or slacker?)
amnehere
betelgeuse here
dberkholz proxy [musikc]
flameeyes here
lu_zero
Bernd Steinhauser schrieb:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/something
Sorry, thought that was common. ;)
It seems so from german-schools' english teaching books. ;)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Thanks for your input on this, really made it look by 200% better from
what we have so far on this list and gives a much better point of view
to judge from.
Kumba++
Greetz
-Jokey
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Luca Barbato schrieb:
Are we fine?
lcd : G15 in good shape, no major issues anywhere
ldap: openldap works good, nss_ldap has some issues here and there
net-irc : some minor issues with dead-upstream apps or apps breaking
their own configs but nothing too serious
net-mon : beh
Ali Polatel schrieb:
P.S: I plan to add a junk overlay like java's to put old python stuff.
I'll keep you posted.
Just make sure to copy anything that has mirror://gentoo as it would be
gone automatically 14 after you remove the ebuild from gentoo-x86 (and
thus the reference to it).
Greetz
+# Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (06 Jan 2008)
+# Broken on compilation, pending removal
+# see bug 192627 for details
+net-analyzer/driftnet
+
Greetz
-Jokey
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Roy Bamford schrieb:
It's that time of the month again, time for another Bug Day on Saturday
5th January. Yep, that's the first bug day of 2008.
Join us in #gentoo-bugs on irc.freenode.net to help squash some bugs
and meet up with fellow users and developers.
Read all about it http://bugday.
Santiago M. Mola schrieb:
> -ffmpeg - Enable ffmpeg support
> +ffmpeg - Enable ffmpeg support --FIXME
ffmpeg - Enable ffmpeg-based audio/video codec support
> -junit - Adds junit awareness -- useful for developers.
> +junit - Adds junit testframework awareness -- useful for developers
junit - Ad
Denis Dupeyron schrieb:
> I would like to thank Markus Ullmann (jokey) for taking over the
> mentoring of Richard after his original mentor left us.
>
> So please everybody, give a warm welcome to Richard.
>
> Denis.
Now that you did your first commmits, welcome to the
Raised that a month or two ago here, conclusion:
If you find something dead, just ping someone with appropriate rights to
wontfix it.
When you care about that pkg, either find a maintainer for it or take it
up to sunrise overlay yourself. :)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Santiago M. Mola wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2007 8:01 PM, Zhang Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Where is the detailed definition of those EAPI's?
>
> "0", "1" and any further official EAPI are defined in PMS. There's a
> svn repository at http://svn.repogirl.net/pms
Erm no, PMS isn't officially until c
Doug Klima schrieb:
> zmedico: what if I have EAPI=2 above the inherit but an eclass
> has EAPI=1
if an eclass sets EAPI, then the ebuild shouldn't... make it two
eclasses if needed or plain bump them if really really needed.
Greetz
Jokey
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K, to sum it up then, everything stays like it is atm.
Thanks for your comments :)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Robin H. Johnson schrieb:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:46:12AM +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote:
> d) In addition to c), keep them open, flagged with sunrise in the status
>board, so that when a developer does want some package not in the
>tree, they can search first.
That's
Hi fellows,
when taking a look at the open bug count for bugs assigned to
maintainer-wanted (2450 at the time of writing), it seems pretty obvious
that we really can't handle all of them, at least not without growing at
least two dozen devs to maintain it properly.
As I highly doubt this will hap
Robin H. Johnson schrieb:
> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
> from the tree, for the week ending 2007-11-18 23h59 UTC.
Just thinking, as we send package fadeouts to both dev-announce, I think
this should be sent there as well as it contains actual removes.
Th
Joe Peterson schrieb:
> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> One idea for improvement, however, might be to spell the archs
> veritcally, thereby easily letting all archs be viewable across one page
> (even perhaps by default). It would help to boast our many arch support.
Heh, well I think the devs are use
Doug Klima schrieb:
> While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain
> PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and
> you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going to be the way
> forward for Gentoo to use PolicyKit. As many may know,
> What if I want to use EAPI=1 features in an eclass? So if we for example
> we have an ebuild using EAPI=2 and then it inherits and eclass that sets
> EAPI=1 for slot deps.
shouldn't be an issue as eapi 1 and 2 would have slot deps
though for other things like src functions defined in the eclass
Denis Dupeyron schrieb:
> He will now be a full developer and work with
> the net-irc and x86 arch teams.
cool, net-irc made it to an arch team already? *fg*scnr*
Anyway, cla,
use repoman || die
and welcome (again) among the dev crowd :)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Dawid Węgliński schrieb:
> I'm curious, because i'm working with jokey to make p.g.o
> up.
Right, he contributed a modified template, I wrote a new db generator
already and now working on some genshi/cherrypy frontend to avoid this
shtml stuff. So anyone who wants to join:
http://orion7.digital-s
So there we are again...
Open security bug and dead upstream. Please either anyone picks it up or
we mask it next week.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190667
Greetz
-Jokey
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Ferris McCormick schrieb:
> I am pleased to announce that Tiago Conha (tcunha) has joined the sparc
> project as an architecture tester. Tiago is already an AT for amd64, so
> now two architectures will keep him busy.
>
> Regards,
Wheee more people :D Take over the. errr nvm ;)
Greetz
-Jok
>Hello,
>
>I take it you intend to use GTK. May I suggest you also provide ncurses
>interfaces to your programs? I'm not sure how much additional work that
>would be, as I don't program UIs. But an additional ncurses interface
>would provide users with the comfort of having the same tools available
Petteri Räty schrieb:
> It's my usual pleasure to announce our newest keywording monkey. Markus
> "maekke" Meier is joining the x86 arch team to deal with the constant
> flow of bugs.
Yey for more minions :D
Welcome :=)
/me notes another namesake
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José Luis Rivero (yoswink) schrieb:
> Gustavo Zacarias escribió:
>> I resign as gentoo developer.
>> Infra: please remove my accounts.
Short and without reason even :x
Gustavo, was a pleasure to work with you whenever our roads crossed.
Good luck with your future plans whatever they might be.
It
Welcome
... and the german conspiracy grows...
Enjoy though use repoman || die ;)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Welcome Jason :)
Good to see you joining us.
Greetz
-Jokey
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Christina Fullam schrieb:
> Just a reminder about nominations and voting...
> If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for
> nominations.
> Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While
> that information is not required perhaps it should be if we
Christian Heim schrieb:
> - net-analyzer/mwcollect (net-mon herd ?)
Herd-absorbage ;)
-Jokey
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Vieri Di Paola schrieb:
> I already contacted jokey (Markus) several months ago
> via e-mail and we agreed that he would have setup
> "proxy maintenance" for the shorewall ebuilds so that
> I could contribute patches and learn from his
> suggestions. We never got to do anything because we
> simply
Hey ;)
As an extension of it. What about this:
_All_ posts from -dev go in CC to -project. Even if the posts are
moderated, they always appear there. That way you can have a (moderated)
subset as -dev and people who want to get their words and fights out,
can do that on -project?
Greetz
-Jokey
Davide Cendron schrieb:
>> jokey
Thanks for your nomination :) I'm accepting, too.
greetings with nightvision goggles
-jokey
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Denis Dupeyron schrieb:
> So please, everybody, give a warm non-welcome to Tobias.
/me adds him to the dark lords list, also known
as the evil german conspiracy
Congrats to your upgrade :)
-Jokey
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As we know from previous bugs and mails here on -dev, bitchx is pretty
much unmaintained and now has an open security bug.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183149
So if no-one wants to take it, p.masking it in a week from now and
remove it regular 30 days after.
-Jokey
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Markus Ullmann schrieb:
> nominating:
> others are nominated already ;)
d'oh, forgot fellow
dertobi123
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nominating:
welp
taviso
others are nominated already ;)
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Some numbers to back Vlastimil up
> Yep there's still development going on, devs commit ebuilds and stuff.
http://cia.vc/stats/project/gentoo
> Also, as said many times, number of devs participating in flamewars here
> is pretty low compared to number of all devs...
considering
http://www.gen
Luca Barbato schrieb:
> Another solution could be provide a nice script that does that for you...
Prefix project uses one already ;) Worth trying
Greetz
-jokey
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Christian Heim schrieb:
> So please welcome Gilles as a new fellow developer among us !
Good to see you around now, FOSDEM was inspiring you, right? ;)
Greetz
-Jokey
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Christian Heim schrieb:
> It's my pleasure to introduce to you Christoph Mende (also known as angelos
> on
> IRC), our latest addition joining the AMD64 and XFCE herd.
>
> Christoph is joining us from Flensburg, Germany, were he just finished a
> internship to improve his GPA for his upcoming s
Chris Gianelloni schrieb:
> The point is that in cases where the herd
> name doesn't equal the email address used for that herd, the maintainer
> tag should probably be filled in with the proper email address.
I think we have herds.xml for a good reason ;)
-Jokey
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Rémi Cardona schrieb:
> The profile idea looks ideal.
Yup, +1 on that one
-Jokey
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Hi, this is the -dev weekly summary, actually the first one ;)
Announcements / Important stuff
===
Announcing GLI ("the installer") 0.5 (by agaffney)
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> Because it looks like the 2.x intel driver might still need this type of
> hack to work properly for some types of machines (my laptop being a good
> example of this...)
Also 2.x breaks on my notebook when using xinerama and dual monitor atm
so nothing rock solid yet ;)
Greetz
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There are quite some issues open about nagios stuff and they're piling
up... So we need a new maintainer for it.
Tracker bug is at
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172480
Would be sad if we had to drop support for it.
If you want to help out and are not a dev (yet), I can commit patches a
Vlastimil Babka schrieb:
> Thilo Bangert wrote:
>> i have never understood why repoman doesn't automatically put the
>> commit message into the ChangeLog (share your use case!)
>
> Yeah I would like at least a switch that would call echangelog first and
> then do its stuff, sunrise-commit whic
Petteri Räty schrieb:
> Ulrich joins the German conspiracy from Mainz.
Okay, who recruited all those german people recently? :D
Welcome aboard Ulrich and make yourself at home :)
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Christian Heim schrieb:
> Tobias is joining us from Hamm, Germany where he's currently finishing the
> junior high school.
Meh, and I overlooked that
Welcome aboard and to the mystic german conspiracy :D
-Jokey
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Christian Heim schrieb:
> Please welcome Thomas as a new, fellow developer among us !
Wheeheee :D
German conspiracy growing again :)
Welcome aboard Thomas
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Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> doubt it'll be possible to convince the developers to merge here ... genlop
> is
> written in perl and qlop is written in C ...
> -mike
Maybe we can do this as another 99bottle ;)
For those who don't know what it is about, look it up here ...
http://99-bottles-of-beer.
So after peper and myself have been on fixing most stuff related to this
topic yesterday, here now is a list with remaining packages and their
respective maintainers.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~jokey/manifest2/manifest2-20070222.txt
Greetz
Jokey
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Grant Goodyear schrieb:
> It's against the rules to have two students working on exactly the same
> project, or at least it was last year.
Also about last year, are there known improvements other mentoring
organizations had out of SoC? (Like KDE, GNOME,...)
Jokey
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Bug #167125
Jokey
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Mike Doty schrieb:
> Speakup now to get your input in.
Why opening up the keywording like that?
Most times a friendly ping on irc to get permissions to keyword x
packages on own hardware succeedes and you're done.
communication++
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Depends on much outdated libprelude and has 404 upstream.
Removal on 2nd of March
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Christian Heim schrieb:
> It's my pleasure to introduce to you Martin Jackson (also known as
> mjolnir40k - on IRC at least) our latest addition joining the netmon herd.
> Please welcome Martin as a new fellow developer among us !
Really looking forward to work with you :)
btw in german we have
Package is outdated, dead upstream and snort as frontend is favoured ;)
Removal on 1st March
Jokey
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Ned Ludd schrieb:
> On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 23:37 +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote:
>> So to avoid thread hijacking, starting a new one.
>
> What exactly is this thread you are starting about? Just letting us know
> you did some random testing?
>
More doing a test for a da
So to avoid thread hijacking, starting a new one.
I did some tests today and took sunrise overlay as testing ground.
It has roughly 2850 revisions. As a blog recommended, I fetched the raw
repo first to do the initial conversion to git.
Then all I did was a
git-svn init file:///home/jokey/sunrise
James Cloos schrieb:
> Since there are no lists receiving commit messgaes, trac's timeline
> rss feed is the only way to keep track (no pun intended) of updates
> to the various svn-managed overlays, such as on overlays.gentoo.org,
> sunrise, etc. AFAICT, trac's rss only supports the commit messag
Donnie Berkholz schrieb:
Greg KH wrote:
What was the reasons he cited?
Given that ports is pretty similar to our gentoo-x86, I'd guess about
the same ones mentioned at
http://dev.gentoo.org/~antarus/projects/gleps/glep-0666.txt -- I quote
from there:
1. Git currently requires you to check
Steve Long schrieb:
I'm looking for a distributed SCM atm, and have come down to
git, bzr, svn or arch.
svn is centralized ;)
I'm leaning to git simply because it's used for the kernel, which seems
> like a project that would really stretch a VCS.
Well the kernel is quite large but doesn't
Thilo Bangert schrieb:
> and also the list of aging ebuilds with unstable keywords could be another
> project that perhaps could be revitalised through the council's action...
Right, well don't need to work on it asap as
http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable/
still works (made by aliz originally)
Gre
Jakub Moc schrieb:
> Yay, the Czech beer conspiracy is growing! Welcome!
You'd share your beer? :D
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> It would be really nice, especially if the adm group could be used to be able
> to read the logs without using root login :)
++ on that :)
Greetz Jokey
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% cat /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc | grep -i ":avahi"
gnome-base/gnome-vfs:avahi - Support for avahi mdns daemon.
gnome-extra/gnome-games:avahi - Support for avahi mdns daemon.
kde-base/kdelibs:avahi - Support for avahi mdns daemon.
media-sound/mt-daapd:avahi - Use avahi instead of howl as
So it's here a bit late due to some mail issues but never the less
Once upon a time there were some devs and a welp and they had a
potentially crazy idea.
welp: "I have an amd64 box sitting around here and just doing nonsense.
Can I help you with doing something useful?"
dev1: "Heh, look there, a
Broken with GCC 4 and dead upstream
related bug #153257
Greetz
Jokey
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Petteri Räty schrieb:
> So please give cedk the usual warm welcome.
Welcome and make yourself at home :D
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Francesco Riosa schrieb:
> Also I'm offering again, some space and bandwidth in germany
Maybe we could also set up the box from bug #108379 (as mirror?) for
patches. It has plenty of bandwith sitting around and not doing that
much currently ;)
Greetz
Jokey
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Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> I'm proud to announce the arival of a future developer. His name is "Tom". He
> arived last monday on 10:22 am (UTC+02). I and my wife will take care of
> mentoring him to full developership ;-).
Congrats... So how does it feel to fork(); ? ;)
Jokey
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Shyam Mani wrote:
> Please extend a warm welcome to Raphael Marichez aka Falco, our newest
> addition to the Security team.
Welcome on board Falco :)
Have a nice warm home here
Jokey
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Ryan Hill wrote:
>> 2. People who contribute good ebuilds over a certain period of time are
>> allowed upon decision by project devs to actively help maintaining the
>> project. They'll be given commit rights for the project then. Same frome
>> above applies here: If we notice any abuse, we revoke
Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various
other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should
satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress dostrow's demands
as well.
1) m-w / m-n requirement
Only ebuilds that are reported to bugzie (valid bug#)
Hi,
so as I was told that I avoid the questions regarding this project
several times now, please repost all open issues you have with this
project clearly, each in one or max two short sentences here.
I'll answer them all the same way to keep out all non-belonging stuff.
Maybe that way we avoid a
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 00:30 +0200, Markus Ullmann wrote:
>>> I know that when I spoke of security, I was not only talking about the
>>> security of letting non-developers commit to an overlay that is, by
>>> design, for end users, but also o
; On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 20:58 +0200, Markus Ullmann wrote:
>> To clarify things a bit (hopefully):
>>
>> 1) security
>>
> I know that when I spoke of security, I was not only talking about the
> security of letting non-developers commit to an overlay that is, by
&g
My intention was to solve some parts with him directly and then send out
some solutions but he wants to do everything on list, so I'm sending it
out for you to know.
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[22:09:15] so after reading your posts I get the impression you
fear that this project will end up in some BMG overla
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> > It's not a "normal" overlay as I see it. You've promoted it to be an
> > official overlay. The difference is huge in my opinion.
Well partly you're right. As it is promoted that way it is a bit more
official but anyway still an overlay.
> > Will you also review the
To clarify things a bit (hopefully):
1) security
This is not the main tree, just a normal overlay. Okay, some non-devs
contribute here but doesn't change the fact that it is just an overlay
as any other out there in the world. Well, it is a bit different. Here
are some devs keeping an eye on the
Mike Doty wrote:
> All-
>
> Chris has move from various AT projects to a developer. cparrot was
> fist on the amd64 AT project, then he moved on to other arches and some
> other hards. It's my great pleasure to have him as a gentoo developer.
>
> --Mike
Congrats and welcome to t3h team ;)
Jok
Hopefully he signs some contracts to never leave again...
Re-Welcome on board :)
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YaY, b0rkage will go away :)
Welcome ian
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