Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
Don't break stuff. If you're sure you know what you're doing, and you're not going to break stuff, then do what needs to be done. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear web: http://www.grantgoodyear.org e-mail: gr...@grantgoodyear.org

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Google Summer of Code 2008 is on!]

2008-02-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
AIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce?hl=en -~--~~~~--~----~------~--~--- - End forwarded message - -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Finge

[gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

2008-01-29 Thread Grant Goodyear
ur students accomplished last year? I doubt there are many, despite the fact that some good work was done last year. Thoughts? Comments? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7

Re: [gentoo-dev] death to mailer-config/mailwrapper

2007-11-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
r program is only intended to allow users to have two MTAs _installed_ on the same box, not actually have them both running simultaneously. It works pretty well for that, but I agree that there seems to be little real need for it. I have no objection to it going away. -g2boojum- -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
hat the meeting was moved to the 16th, to avoid conflicting with LWE. No? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp0yRFAewfZN.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees

2007-07-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
e-up on my blog detailing what we know so far: http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html I'm cross-posting to -dev, and suggesting that comments be sent there as well, since most people don't read -nfp. If you think this is a good idea, a bad idea, or you just wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
oject instead of -dev, so I don't see that it's going to affect me very much. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpiSvLESccDC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2

2007-06-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
as supposed to be a proctor directive.) Or are people really looking for the proctors to get involved only when behavior is particularly egregious? Is there a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as has been suggested? Well reasoned thoughts and opinions welc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
eeBSD but using glibc be called? (It's not an entirely academic question; Debian folks have worked on such a distribution for some time.) I can't really tell from the text in your proposed GLEP. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
on what you think you know. Here's an example: "That last paragraph doesn't seem to agree with what I've observed, where Could you explain where the discrepancy arises?" -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
ncil is wrong, then the Council is extremely likely to listen. If they don't, vote out the bums. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgppKgEGeE8NE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
e system". The reason we give such sweeping CVS privs is precisely so that people can fix broken packages. Just don't break anything when you do it. If you do, then you deserve to have the council thump you. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
relying on freenode as our sole IRC host, since freenode would certainly count as a single vendor. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpigXWRG4cU1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 11:38:45AM CDT] > On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700 > Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grant Goodyear wrote: > > [snip] > > > PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this > > > propos

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
rong, obviously-Gentoo-specific proposals, I suspect they'll push the less-Gentoo-specific proposals right off the acceptance list, unless those alternative proposals are amazingly impressive. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum G

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
proposal? My personal opinion is that I wouldn't characterize it as a high-priority project for either Gentoo or Paludis, but the quality of the proposal itself is decent and real thought has been put into it. (I can't figure out why this project would need both boost.

[gentoo-dev] Re: two more tentative SOC ideas

2007-03-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
Forwarding on behalf of Diego. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 --- Begin Message --- On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:46:24 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-dev] two more tentative SOC ideas

2007-03-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
ld be useful to the broader community? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpO7B3VQJftY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
t the rest of the community doesn't have to deal with him, then I'm going to be perfectly happy with that arrangement. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

[gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
difference lies? Are we sure that we're solving the right problem? (That's not a rhetorical question; I really don't know the answer.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
Robin H. Johnson wrote: [Tue Mar 13 2007, 06:05:10PM CDT] > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:09:53PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > > * Can we find a better name than "the Proctors", please? > > Yes, that's a completely petty point, but it was the first > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
way or another. Despite how critical I'm being, I really do appreciate the work that has gone into this so far. Thank you very much. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpC9y5kFBjPg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
this technically, instead of /politically/ *shock horror*.. [rest snipped] Please, stop. This thread has mostly died out, and it would be nice not to fan the flames again. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D70

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
pon, and accepted in part, in whole, or not at all by the Council. If they take too long, or their work is too paludis-biased, or if people just don't trust the authors, then nothing is preventing anybody else from writing a competing spec. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
Josh Saddler wrote: [Mon Mar 05 2007, 03:51:08PM CST] > Technical point here -- the devmanual has never been in GuideXML; it was > converted from RST into docbook. Oh! My apologies. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2booj

[gentoo-dev] Well, that was, um, interesting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
ith that approach, though: right now it is not clear that Gentoo has a group of devs who are sufficiently trusted and willing to actually punish incivility. Thoughts? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgplxaHmQNCxk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
ought would satisfy the license) where the full list of authors would be listed on the front page as a simple, compact list of names. The appendix would still detail which author wrote what. That's what you'll see on the current devmanual, and as far as I know everybody involved is con

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
s last year. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpDzvNrd3h9Z.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
ojects that at least have the potential to benefit more of the community than just Gentoo. *Shrug* Assuming we decide to be a mentoring organization again, I'm willing to help with the paperwork and administrative stuff. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

[gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-15 Thread Grant Goodyear
http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/02/speaking-of-summer.html So, are we going to want to participate again this year? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Grant Goodyear
evs that maintain those packages are understandably touchy about having other devs break those ebuilds. For the majority of packages in the tree, though, I'd like to encourage their maintainers to be less possessive. If somebody wants to fix bugs in ebuilds that I maintain, go right ahead. Jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
eas, it may be that a not-so-good one will need to be enacted by fiat. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp0vUValY5Wz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] tr1 dependencies

2007-01-30 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Tue Jan 30 2007, 12:27:49AM CST] > * Hard dep upon boost. This sucks for g++-4.1 users. Agreed. Worse, it's a stop-gap measure, since presumably the long term solution is for tr1 to be supported directly by the compiler on all archs. So, any work done with this approach w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Topic for Feb council meeting

2007-01-29 Thread Grant Goodyear
l election to a Council position because only a handful of people ran for the position. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgphDsgw6xilV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
v.gentoo.org/~klieber/spf.txt Thanks, that's quite helpful. What did you do (or not do) to avoid paying the SPF_NEUTRAL SA "penalty" in your test e-mail sent using gmail? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
mails to -dev since 21 Oct., and in each one I see the following sig: Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ as-needed is broken : http://ciaranm.org/show_post.pl?post_id=13 Where has he used "[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
on -dev it appeared that infra was essentially saying "We know best, we're not changing how we do things, and we don't want to talk about it". If that appearance were, in fact, the reality, then appealing to the Council would seem to be perfectly reasonable. -g2boojum- -- Gra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
make it easy for our users to create and use their own, customized, distribution. That's our strength as a meta-distribution. (We also need to make it easy to install and replicate custom distributions, but we already have Catalyst and the Seeds project addressing those issues.) -g2booju

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Grant Goodyear
> The simplest way is a line based format > ... At the risk of reopening a large can of worms, can somebody explain to me why the license groups idea won't run into the same conceptual issues that derailed GLEP 29 (USE groups)? Am I missing something obvious? -g2boojum- -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Wed Oct 25 2006, 11:17:09AM CDT] > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:48:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | (Incidentally, I apologize for missing the meeting. I was in > | intensely boring radiation safety training.) > > Uh, isn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
e extreme there. For the previous and current changes to GLEP 39 the changes are much smaller, and I'd rather see the changes done inline. *Shrug* It's a slippery slope, but I'd rather rely on common sense until there's actual evidence that it's failing. -g2booju

Re: [gentoo-dev] mirroring distfiles/patches on patches.gentoo.org

2006-10-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Mon Oct 23 2006, 04:35:50PM CDT] > To my fellow Gentoo Devlopers and Users, [lots snipped] Truly, the sarcasm doesn't help. It takes a potentially reasonable grievance and reduces it to just the author appearing to be a jerk. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] New Trustees - My Resignation

2006-10-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Mon Oct 23 2006, 09:50:02AM CDT] > *Sigh* Unfortunately, the bylaws have yet to be approved (mainly > because the quorum requirements would kill us). Thus, there is no > well-defined path. The options are: > > (1) Follow the bylaws, and the remaining trust

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] New Trustees - My Resignation

2006-10-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
ready have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for business that doesn't have to be kept private, and -nfp tends to be quite low-noise. For stuff that we have to keep private, we're more likely to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias than the mailing list, anyway, although I'd like to see

[gentoo-dev] Thanks

2006-10-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
list of eligible voters for the current election, and codergeek42, fmccor, and gustavoz, who are the other election officials (and who, presumably, will be providing independent confirmations of the election results). -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[gentoo-dev] Current Gentoo Foundation roster

2006-10-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
Attached. Thanks to all who voted! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 agaffney agriffis amne anpereir astinus axxo azarah bass batlogg bcowan beejay bennyc

[gentoo-dev] Testing run of countify

2006-10-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
in a ballot that caused it not to be counted, so hopefully this process will help reduce the number of similar errors. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6

[gentoo-dev] Trustee polls closing quite soon

2006-10-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
As I write this, it's 17:42 UTC, and the polls close at some microsecond before 00:00 UTC. If you haven't voted and you wish to be a member of the Gentoo Foundation (and you're eligible), please do so. Best regards, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Spider's Resignation from the Project

2006-10-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
but it does, at least, make things look less malicious. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgphTaOx3hQoG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
;ll do 'blah' w/ the new CD, could somebody let me know the best way to do this", I suspect that everybody would be happier. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpc4H0PoXf44.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Replacing votify/countify

2006-10-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
willing to actually do the work? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpsMeys9oGRL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers

2006-09-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
ately it is developer self-interest that keeps things going. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpzB2b6XFdtf.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
e out of it will be supported by the community as a whole. If we need to change things to make that reality more clear, I'm certainly willing to listen to suggestions. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpFHSWMM48ya.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Results now more official

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
ive. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpUBNQWaNjZP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] unofficial council election results

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
Wernfried Haas wrote: [Mon Sep 11 2006, 11:23:03AM CDT] > I'd like to send my unofficial congratulations to the new council then. > Also thanks to the folks who did the technical stuff behind the vote. > > Btw, how many people actually voted? 121 -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

[gentoo-dev] unofficial results -- full ranking

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
esult: option jakub wins result: option spb wins result: option patrick wins -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpYOj1W4APDT.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] unofficial council election results

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
27;ll be using the same master ballot that I just mailed out, as that's all that is needed, so if anybody else wants to provide an independent count, feel free.) -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663

[gentoo-dev] Council election master ballot

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
Here's the "master ballot" for the election. Confirmation e-mails will follow. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 - confirmation 2b94 -

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
ing), and then requiring in-tree package managers to implement that API. Or at least that was my understanding of that meeting. Thanks! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpFSsnN2ZzQr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
owever, I just took on that role with a view to getting > things moving again, so given that the GLEP is more a statement of > intent than something to be implemented I would say it can probably be > marked final at some point. Marked final. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
I hadn't looked at the actual GLEP. Updated in CVS. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpgBo5yLD4Xl.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
't remember what happened w/ this one 49 (alt package manager 1) --> R (by council; sane API preferred) 50 (alt package manager 2) --> R (by council; sane API preferred) 51 (knowledge base) --> GDP want to approve this one so I can change the code?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
e the user could just mask out /etc/logrotate.d instead (using INSTALL_MASK) if those scripts weren't desired. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpGeOfoXqVF7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
that sets Gentoo apart. My guess is that it also makes Gentoo devs less willing to pigeon-hole themselves into a rigid project structure, but I don't really have any evidence of that. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Finger

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Greg KH wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:42:47PM CDT] > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > > Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, > > but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Olivier Crete wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 11:42:14AM CDT] > On Thu, 2006-10-08 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting > software ? Well, fmccor has suggested STV[1], so the current plan is to use "countify&quo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Christel Doty wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:34:50PM CDT] > Sure, just let me know what you need me to do Grant :) Thanks! Um, I'm not quite sure what's going to be needed just yet, but I'll keep you informed. -g2boojum- PS. With three election officials, we probably have eno

[gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. Incidentally, I'm currently serving as an election official since I'm not running for a spot on the Council. It would be good to have a couple other people acting as officials, too. Volunteers? -g2booju

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
tee again, which is more than enough administrative annoyance all by itself.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpovh6Vp5JnS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] nss_* and system users

2006-06-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
es and then create local accounts with those values. Anybody who actually has a clue want to chime in? Oh, it might be a good idea to ask in [EMAIL PROTECTED], too. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
at people are likely to install outside of portage, the kernel would be it.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpong75Uwgt9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
l-knowing Zen argument isn't particularly helpful -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpa5qAbFbRMh.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
entoo.org address and add a portage hook that warns whenever the project sunrise overlay is used, then our reputation isn't really likely to suffer even if it's a complete disaster. So, Chris, what have I failed to address that would make this a really bad idea? -g2boojum- -- Grant

[gentoo-dev] herds.xml

2006-06-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
So, what would people think of moving herds.xml from gentoo/misc into the portage tree, with the rationale being that local tools could use that information for various useful purposes (compiling statistics, doing something that I can't think of right now, whatever)? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
, I'd think that would make life much simpler for everybody. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpcquPFfyhuM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
ES, CFLAGS, and CXXFLAGS per package? (Of course, I do realize that it's the lack of such files that lead vapier to propose his solution, which is rather more convenient for one-off builds.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp5cgkviFCsQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] evolution of x86 stabling procedures

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
ion. Probably the > same for a few archs. I didn't say that the x86 policy was a bad one. I was rather hoping that x86 was doing peer review and at least one other arch team wasn't, since then we could try to make some sort of quantitative comparison. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

[gentoo-dev] evolution of x86 stabling procedures

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
peer review? Do we have any statistics or anecdotal evidence for what's improving, and whether or not anything is getting worse as a result? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
nk it's still required. > -motif - is unmaintained in portage and rather outdated, does not look good. > Should not be default for optional interfaces I believe that flag is mainly there to reduce the "Hey, my xpdf package lacks the xpdf binary" bugs. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2006-06-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
t;) that was either overlooked in the rest of that thread or ignored because people considered it to be useless; I'm not sure which. In any event, I just want to bring it to the council's attention as an alternative approach. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-30 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: > Basically, it would be something that allowed you to "browse" the current > tree of submitted ebuilds. This way users that submit something can > categorize it for devs to easily look for ebuilds they may be interested > in, and we can make it so we could easily grab the ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: [Wed May 24 2006, 04:37:44PM CDT] > Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > How was the conversion done? Do we now have a tool to convert rst to > > guidexml, or was the conversion all done by hand (which would be a truly > > frightening

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
s additional detail, perhaps) would suffice, I'd think: Authors --- Ciaran McCreesh, Grant Goodyear, Aaron Walker, Robert Coie, Tom Martin, Paul Varner, Ilya Volynets-Evenbakh, Diego Patteno Fernando J. Pareda, Simon Stelling, Alin Dobre, and Joseph Jezak Seem reasonable? -g2boojum- -- Gran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
that my name was not listed in the section titled "Authors".) Finally, the whole issue goes away by either changing the heading on that first page from "Authors" to "Maintainers" or "Editors", or by adding the list of contributors back to this page. It'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: > At long last the devmanual is official. You can find it at > http://devmanual.gentoo.org. I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping > me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in > the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
rating release media" being on obvious example). Perhaps something like the following would suffice: GLEP: xx Title: Supporting alternative package managers Version: $Revision: 1.3 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2005/11/13 17:16:50 $ Author: Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Status: Dr

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
ouldn't Gentoo then just fork the package manager? Am I missing something obvious? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpRDW94TT7bg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] 259 paludis-profile messages. ENOUGH!

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
king things harder > for the people who do real work around here. If you don't have anything > useful to contribute, shut up and go away. *Sigh* Be nice, please. Incidentally, he did have a point that this thread is now darn hard to follow. Perhaps it's time to split of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > Stop making such odd and wrong comparisons. The package manager is part of > what defines a distribution, choosing a shell is the users choice. If you > want to make the package manager matter of choice, start your own > distribution. Just because it has historically bee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Incidentally, in reading this thread it seems to me that a tendency to > offer opinions (or predictions) as though they were facts has been a > common theme. Please try to separate the two, whenever possible. Just to clarify, I was not limiting that comment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Paul de Vrieze wrote: >> At present I ask not for support, but for a minor addition for >> convenience purposes. > > One that has more disadvantages than advantages as already pointed out. Many of your comments have been quite valuable, but I've noticed that your recent posts fail to distinguish

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? > > Pretty unlikely, past events considered. Personally I kind of like > having commit access to my own code... I thought we (Gentoo) already had SVN repositories with non-Gentoo-dev committers? I'm pretty sure that was one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Alternative Gentoo package managers discussion request (for the council)

2006-05-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
that sort of discussion is certainly not something that I would want to discourage! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpNAVhQZhJFm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
paludis installed-package database and can generate the equivalent portage db)? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpCeUn97oRES.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
ad was if it wouldn't be simpler to add the paludis-specific stuff to the existing files, and have portage ignore it.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpAQhR879eWT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Wed May 10 2006, 08:32:01AM CDT] > I have a copy of the font. > > It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com Thanks! Okay, it's part of their freeware font "font heads". -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Develope

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Grant Goodyear
evidence to the contrary, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain any necessary rights. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpNDUDbMRug5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Grant Goodyear
xplain why we have a cow's face on a 404 page or trying to > explain why we like Larry is like trying to explain a love story: You > just can't without everybody looking strange at you afterwards. True! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECT

[gentoo-dev] staffing needs expirations?

2006-05-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
ybody know if we do still need people to help w/ LDAP? -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpYpfv7VBNGY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCESS DENIED during emerge

2006-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
A. Khattri wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> A. Khattri wrote: >>> Does this sound right or is there a better (preferred?) way? >> Try to fix --enable-conf-install to respect DESTDIR or whatever other >> install method you're using, or look to see what flag it will take at

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