Jakub Moc wrote: [Sun Mar 04 2007, 05:30:37PM CST] > Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:08:40 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions > >> from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document > >> originally, so that people wouldn't be forced to scroll across one > >> page worth of contributors to get to the actual content of devmanual. > > > > Nnnnnnope. All credits except for one name (of someone whose > > contributions were limited to a few sentences) were removed from the > > front page entirely, completely in violation of the licence. > > Erm yes, you wanted bigger fonts on a front page, already said that > multiple times (plus everyone can read the bug). Noone removed any > credits from the doc itself, they were moved to a different place for > the reason I've stated above. > > Stop this already, we've been thru this once and that's been really > enough, I fail to see why are you bringing up this issue here again and > abusing it for completely false generalisations (as quoted by seemant in > his mail).
*Sigh* If you're a bystander trying to figure out who's right here in this little thread about the devmanual, the answer is "neither". Or "both". Take your pick. Here's what happened, to the best of my recollection. Back when ciaranm was a Gentoo dev, he wrote the majority of an unofficial ebuild development guide--the "devmanual". Several other devs contributed various sections, but most of the content was Ciaranm's. When ciaranm was booted, that work would have been lost, but plasmaroo, with Ciaran's eventual permission, hosted the original doc in his dev space. The original devmanual was written using Restructured Text (like our GLEPs), along with various scripts that ciaranm wrote to assemble all of the bits and pieces properly into a coherent online guide. Plasmaroo and halcy0n converted the restructured text to guidexml. In doing so, the list of authors was moved to an appendix, with the front page prominently crediting ciaranm (but none of the other authors), and listing plasmaroo and halcy0n where the list of authors used to reside. (It know it listed them as "Editors" eventually. Did it originally list them as "Authors"? I don't remember.) Ciaranm complained that the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license that was used didn't permit relegating the list of authors to an appendix. That was the complaint. I can't seem to find the bug right now, but it does make interesting reading if you can find it. The original rationale for moving the author list to an appendix was because it was quite long, and plasmaroo and halcy0n assumed that most readers didn't really care. I doubt that any malice was intended. Ciaranm pointed out on one of the mailing lists (-dev, I assume), that this relocation of the author list violates the license. My recollection was that his original post was polite and factual (and probably quite terse). The thread (and later bug) then spiralled out of control, with a considerable number of accusations, counter-accusations, and misunderstandings. No, ciaranm wasn't complaining that he "wanted a bigger font on the front page". As far as I could tell, he simply wanted due credit for the other authors. Yes, that initial polite post by ciaranm was followed by many vitriolic posts by him that did no good whatsoever. Impressively, hardly anybody actually focussed on whether or not the devmanual CC license was, in fact, being violated. After an insane amount of fighting I suggested a simple compromise (that I thought would satisfy the license) where the full list of authors would be listed on the front page as a simple, compact list of names. The appendix would still detail which author wrote what. That's what you'll see on the current devmanual, and as far as I know everybody involved is content with that solution. Morale? Heck if I know. Perhaps it should be no more than "get your facts straight, or you'll have to deal with another annoyingly lengthy post from g2boojum". Yours tiredly, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76
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