On 12/03/2016 07:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 8:59:09 AM EST Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800
>>
>> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>> On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
I'd say keeping things lowercase makes sense for end
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On 12/03/2016 03:01 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 04:49:19PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>> No matter what terms you use, Google uses Gentoo to build products it makes
>> money off. In that sense I think it could give back allot. If not in
>> donations, resources
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:30:29PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> >
> > Net Total: $50,924.19
> >
> So from 09-16 avg of ~$4.6k per year over 11 years.
10 years of participation, 9 of which we got paid for. So ~$5.7k/year.
If we got paid for 2013: ~$5.4k/y
On Fri, 2016-12-02 at 14:10 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
> that I've forgotten who was working on most of them.
>
> I know that Toralf is doin
# Mike Gilbert (03 Dec 2016)
# Sandbox failure on install. No maintainer.
# https://bugs.gentoo.org/597146
# https://bugs.gentoo.org/597188
# Removal in 30 days.
dev-python/pygtkspellcheck
OT SNR Sorry but not sorry :)
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:01:56 PM EST Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 04:49:19PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > No matter what terms you use, Google uses Gentoo to build products it
> > makes
> > money off. In that sense I think it
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 04:49:19PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> No matter what terms you use, Google uses Gentoo to build products it makes
> money off. In that sense I think it could give back allot. If not in
> donations, resources (tinderbox), etc.
Here's the financial parts of what
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:40:43 PM EST Alec Warner wrote:
>
> I don't think making headlines is a goal for the project.
Making headlines and having attraction is usually something that matters in
technology. Lots of obscure tech out there, no one writes about or cares
about. Which leads t
WA OT :(
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 5:34:56 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:09 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
>
> Actually, it is the opposite. When you spend money as an individual
> in the US it normally doesn't lower your taxes unless there is some
> special tax deduct
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> OT, who runs Gentoo
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 12:21:55 AM EST Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >
> > Unless something's changed in the past year or two, iirc Sony uses
> > Gentoo as part of the backend of Gaikai, Google's used it for
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:09 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> There is also the charitable donation and write off aspect. Which they may be
> able to do. But since Gentoo has never received official 501c6 status or any
> from the IRS. I am not sure if companies or anyone can actually write off a
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:56:40 PM EST Brian Dolbec wrote:
>
> Well, It does give back some. I know there are times patches are
> pushed to gentoo from them.
Yes, and they employ a couple current and former devs. At least one quite core
> Plus we get financial support from them
> via the
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:49:19 -0500
"William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:27:20 AM EST Brian Dolbec wrote:
> >
> > I think you will find that ChromeOS is not really based on Gentoo,
> > but built using Gentoo as the base os it IS built from. It is
> > still Linux base
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 6:30:08 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
>
> "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> >
> > Did any of the tinderboxes test all the various USE flag combinations or
> > just the defaults?
>
> I'm sorry but you are going off-topic here. I'm trying to gather
> information on any of
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:27:20 AM EST Brian Dolbec wrote:
>
> I think you will find that ChromeOS is not really based on Gentoo, but
> built using Gentoo as the base os it IS built from. It is still Linux
> based, but ChromeOS doe not use ebuilds and such for normal
> operations. But the
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 21:16:05 +0100
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Kent, I think this is the best way to put it so far.
> > Could you try to fit it into a devmanual patch?
>
> There is no consensus about such a change of policy.
Does that
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Michał Górny wrote:
> Thanks, Kent, I think this is the best way to put it so far.
> Could you try to fit it into a devmanual patch?
There is no consensus about such a change of policy.
Ulrich
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 12:08:44 -0500
"William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 5:58:29 PM EST Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Dec 2016, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > > Google has hired a few core developers as has Gaikai. Both seem
> > > to be good, t
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:09:31PM -0800, Nick Vinson wrote:
>
> On 12/02/2016 10:28 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >
> >> The devmanual states:
> >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters,
> >> the digits 0-9, hyphens, un
On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 04:50:49 +1300
Kent Fredric wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:14:26 +0100
> Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>
> > The ebuild has to be written only once, while users will type the
> > package name many times.
>
> An ebuild will require maintaining 10x the number of times
> users need t
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:01:32 -0500
Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 01:04:17AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote
> >> >
> >> > So, should we clean up / rename pa
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 13:13:36 +
Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 12/03/2016 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 10:35:32 +0100
> > Patrice Clement wrote:
> >
> >> Friday 02 Dec 2016 14:10:27, Michał Górny wrote :
> >>> Hi, everyone.
> >>>
> >>> I've heard multiple times about
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:08:42 -0500
"William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 2:10:27 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> > started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 02:30:20 +0300
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Error 404 here.
https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=147974883628079&w=2
FYI, the file's removed now as I've found out that we already have
an LDAP field for that. So if you're not on Gentoo developers team on
GitHub, please set it:
p
On 12/03/2016 10:39 AM, james wrote:
On 12/03/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
Then a stage-4 image could be made available so anyone can install
gentoo cluster nodes quickly and a bit of ansible code to load the
framework onto a ope
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 5:58:29 PM EST Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2016, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Google has hired a few core developers as has Gaikai. Both seem
> > to be good, though not sure Google is giving back as much given
> > their financial benefit. Gai
Hi!
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> Google has hired a few core developers as has Gaikai. Both seem
> to be good, though not sure Google is giving back as much given
> their financial benefit. Gaikai isn't selling an OS, but Google
> is based on Gentoo...
That last bit is no
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:06:36 +
Markos Chandras wrote:
> That's reasonable but I also think that bumping and fixing an ebuild at
> the same time can be considered an atomic change since it's effectively
> a _new_ ebuild
One problem is that can seriously confuse git about what's happening,
give
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 01:04:17AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote
>> >
>> > So, should we clean up / rename packages that do not follow this as we
>> > find them, like my ConfigArg
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:14:26 +0100
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> The ebuild has to be written only once, while users will type the
> package name many times.
An ebuild will require maintaining 10x the number of times
users need to specify the cat/pn of that package.
An ebuild will also need depending
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:47 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:33:00 AM EST Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>> >> This is generally considered infeasible:
>> > I would not think such, just need a wrapper to run aroun
On 12/03/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
This is generally considered infeasible:
I would not think such, just need a wrapper to run around each package that
would get its USE flags and re-emerge it a few times.
If a package has 1
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ben Kohler wrote:
>>
>> Keep in mind some will emerge libraries dependencies for their own
>> projects
>> and development. They do not always have to be merged as a dependency of
>> another package.
>>
>> It might be confusing to know when it is acceptable to use m
On 12/02/2016 03:14 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
> What about the following forkflow:
> - version bump first with minimal changes required, but without
> pushing commit to the tree;
> - make each logical change as a separate commit without revision
> bumps and without pushing stuff to the tree (o
>
>
> Keep in mind some will emerge libraries dependencies for their own projects
> and development. They do not always have to be merged as a dependency of
> another package.
>
> It might be confusing to know when it is acceptable to use mixed case and
> not.
>
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
>
It's
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 8:59:09 AM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800
>
> Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd say keeping things lowercase makes sense for end user packages. For
> > > pure dependencies with consiste
Getting further off topic, rather not create noise to bother others, minimal
below.
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:36:47 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> Sure, and it probably will be the state of things 20 years from now,
> with Gentoo still having "little chance that even the minimum of
> relea
On 12/03/2016 08:13 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 12/03/2016 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 10:35:32 +0100
Patrice Clement wrote:
Friday 02 Dec 2016 14:10:27, Michał Górny wrote :
Hi, everyone.
I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
started by ind
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:33:00 AM EST Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> >> This is generally considered infeasible:
> > I would not think such, just need a wrapper to run around each package
> > that
> > would get its USE flags and re-emerge it
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
>
> Which was one of the last articles Gentoo mentioned in on Distro watch, till I
> believe the OnHub router. Based around that topic, quoting Ciaran.
>
> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future
>
> Most interesting abo
On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>
>> This is generally considered infeasible:
>
> I would not think such, just need a wrapper to run around each package that
> would get its USE flags and re-emerge it a few times.
If a package has 10 USE flags, and if each can be set on/of
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:14:32 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:08 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
>
> wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 2:10:27 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> >> Hi, everyone.
> >>
> >> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
>
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:09:30 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
>
> wrote:
> > OT, who runs Gentoo
> >
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 12:21:55 AM EST Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >> There's also our downstream neighbors: Funtoo, Pentoo, Sa
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:08 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 2:10:27 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
>> Hi, everyone.
>>
>> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
>> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
>> that I'
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
> OT, who runs Gentoo
> On Saturday, December 3, 2016 12:21:55 AM EST Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> There's also our downstream neighbors: Funtoo, Pentoo, Sabayon,
>> Calculate, Exherbo, etc
>
> Two of those are more of a splinter of the
On Friday, December 2, 2016 2:10:27 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
> that I've forgotten who was working on most of them.
Did any of the tinderb
OT, who runs Gentoo
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 12:21:55 AM EST Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
> Unless something's changed in the past year or two, iirc Sony uses
> Gentoo as part of the backend of Gaikai, Google's used it for the base
> of ChromeOS...
Also is the base of CoreOS, widely popular. Go
On 12/03/2016 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 10:35:32 +0100
> Patrice Clement wrote:
>
>> Friday 02 Dec 2016 14:10:27, Michał Górny wrote :
>>> Hi, everyone.
>>>
>>> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
>>> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact,
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 10:35:32 +0100
Patrice Clement wrote:
> Friday 02 Dec 2016 14:10:27, Michał Górny wrote :
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> > started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
> > that I've forgotte
Friday 02 Dec 2016 14:10:27, Michał Górny wrote :
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
> that I've forgotten who was working on most of them.
>
> I know that Toralf is doing tin
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 00:12:53 -0800
Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 12/02/2016 11:55 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:21:34 -0800
> > Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >>> On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On F
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:03:11 +0100
Magnus Granberg wrote:
> fredag 2 december 2016 kl. 23:32:37 CET skrev Daniel Campbell:
> > On 12/02/2016 06:09 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 02, 2016 02:10:27 PM Michał Górny wrote:
> > >> Hi, everyone.
> > >>
> > >> I've heard multiple
On 11/28/2016 03:26 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 28/11/16 19:39, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>> For now who cares about other OS or distros. If Gentoo gets its house in
>> order
>> others may follow.
>>
> At the risk of a huge flame, remind me, who uses Gentoo again?!
>
Unless something's cha
On 12/02/2016 11:55 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:21:34 -0800
> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>> On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500
Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 2,
On 12/02/2016 11:59 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800
> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500
>>> Mike Gilbert wrote:
>>>
The devmanual states:
The name section should contain only
fredag 2 december 2016 kl. 23:32:37 CET skrev Daniel Campbell:
> On 12/02/2016 06:09 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Friday, December 02, 2016 02:10:27 PM Michał Górny wrote:
> >> Hi, everyone.
> >>
> >> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> >> started by individuals in
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800
Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500
> > Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >
> >> The devmanual states:
> >>
> >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters,
> >> the digits 0-
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