Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:47:05 -0400 as excerpted:
> Or alternatively, rc-net ?
>
> (google seems to reference 'rc' as 'remote control' as in race cars,
> airplanes, etc; but given /etc/rc.* and /etc/init* have been around
> forever and have always been called the "rc" syste
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 23:46:08 schrieb Jeroen Roovers:
> 23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me
> rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing
> bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req". This just
> adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't w
23:37:25 rej, you have notes! [21:13] Let me
rephrase this: Just a friendly notice to please refrain from rephrasing
bug summaries from "Stabilize ${P}" to "${P} stable req". This just
adds unneeded noise to the bug. I don't want this on bugs I've reported
or am assigned to.
This is my equally
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 21:33:02 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:22:48 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
> > > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > > Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:39:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> This is not a regression from my definition:
>
> Software regression, the appearance of a bug which was absent in a
> previous revision
A bug in this case is one of the user's packages no longer working
after an upgrade, or any of the mor
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:28:06 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 06/08/13 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400 Alexis Ballier
> >> wrote:
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On 06/08/13 04:17 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 30/07/13 04:42 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
>> cryptsetup upstream installed minimal Gentoo setup and tested our
>> handling of 'static' and was disappointed finding them broken
>
>> https://bugs.
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:22:48 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
> > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing. Subslot,
> > > or slot emulators or whatever, in the
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On 06/08/13 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400 Alexis Ballier
>> wrote:
>>> Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing.
>>> Subslot, or s
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:44:57 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing. Subslot, or
> > slot emulators or whatever, in their current usage with :=
> > dependencies, are not fine grained enou
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On 30/07/13 04:42 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
> cryptsetup upstream installed minimal Gentoo setup and tested our
> handling of 'static' and was disappointed finding them broken
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438998 - RESO/TEST -
> c
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:31:14 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> Well, ok, but this doesn't relate to what I was writing. Subslot, or
> slot emulators or whatever, in their current usage with :=
> dependencies, are not fine grained enough for some use cases. Those
> cause regressions if used improperly.
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:25:15 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:12:06 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
> > > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > > 'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:12:06 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
> > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > 'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal since subslots
> > > introduce this regression...
> >
> > Er,
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > 'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal since subslots
> > introduce this regression...
>
> Er, no. Subslots just simplify the way accurate slot dependencies are
> exp
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:05:07 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> 'occasional unnecessary rebuild' is a big deal since subslots
> introduce this regression...
Er, no. Subslots just simplify the way accurate slot dependencies are
expressed. That's all they are: an alternative to having a larger
number of
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 11:26:16 schrieb William Hubbs:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
> > person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
> > naming of the package,
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:30:56 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:16:57 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
> > > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > > Again, symbols have nothing to do he
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:16:57 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
> > Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you have poor
> > > control on overlays and absolutely zero con
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single
> person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the
> naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for
> naming ideas.
Rob
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:12 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you have poor control
> > on overlays and absolutely zero control on locally built packages,
> > the only sane assumption is that
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:49:49 -0400
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> Again, symbols have nothing to do here. Since you have poor control on
> overlays and absolutely zero control on locally built packages, the
> only sane assumption is that all symbols are used.
And that answers your question as to why the
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:21:52 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > subslot = concatenation of the subslots of all (positive? if it
> > makes sense) dependencies; updated when said dependencies get their
> > subslot changed.
> >
> > this seems to fit well for a virtual and should be in line with
> > w
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On 05/08/13 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> - netrc (conflicts)
>
> Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
>
Or alternatively, rc-net ?
(google seems to reference 'rc' as 'r
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On 06/08/13 10:21 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 05/08/13 01:58 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:54 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
>> wrote:
>
>>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400 Alexis Ballier
>>> wrote:
> Not really. There'
On 06/08/13 10:02 AM, hasufell wrote:
> It seems none of them (except the overview GLEP 57) are implemented yet,
> although they are roughly 6-8 years old.
>
> What is holding it back? Is it just that we don't have a PM
> implementation yet or is it some political nonsense and PMS blocking
> progr
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On 05/08/13 01:58 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:54 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:51:48 -0400 Alexis Ballier
>> wrote:
Not really. There's a tradeoff between dependencies that are
occasi
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On 05/08/13 01:07 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexis Ballier
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:10:46 +0200 Michał Górny
>> wrote:
>>> We can simply have multiple virtual versions, each depending on
>>> the proper jpeg
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On 05/08/13 12:51 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:36:49 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:22:32 -0400 Alexis Ballier
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:13:49 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh
>>> wrote:
On Tue,
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On 05/08/13 12:10 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-08-05, o godz. 11:50:38 Alexis Ballier
> napisał(a):
>
>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:06:33 +0300 Samuli Suominen
>> wrote:
>>> The plan is to change SLOT of virtual/jpeg from "0" to eg.
>>> "0/1" a
It seems none of them (except the overview GLEP 57) are implemented yet,
although they are roughly 6-8 years old.
What is holding it back? Is it just that we don't have a PM
implementation yet or is it some political nonsense and PMS blocking
progress again?
I am not criticizing the portage team
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:57:55 +0200
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> Currently, USE flag descriptions are a mix of imperative ("Enable")
> and indicative ("Enables") forms, the former occuring more often:
>
>Enable : Enables = 2143 : 408
>Add : Adds = 525 : 341
>Build : Builds =
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