Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/05/2012 10:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:07:40 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >> The "SLOT operator" dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are >> very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work with >> unslotted packages, then we need to introduce a s

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:31:01 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > We all know what would be the "ideal solution", the problem is how to > implement it (and how many years we need to wait to get it working). We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still didn't fully know what the problem w

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:07:40 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > The "SLOT operator" dependencies that Ciaran has been advocating are > very close to a good solution. However, if we want it to work with > unslotted packages, then we need to introduce a separate ABI_SLOT > variable as discussed here: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 release candidate

2012-06-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 14:44:13 Mike Frysinger wrote: > i'm pleased to announce the initial x32 release candidate: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/x32/stage3-amd64-x32-20120605.tar.xz to be kind to infra, i've put this on the mirrors: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/amd6

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > Is there any chance to detect this ZLIB_VERSION problem with > revdep-rebuild (worst case: add a list of possibly broken packages > with tests)? I'd suggest a special ebuild phase to check for ABI changes, like the pre_pkg_preinst_abi_check phase sugg

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 release candidate

2012-06-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
compiler wise, you do not need to specify -mx32 yourself. the toolchain defaults to the x32 ABI (and all programs in there are compiled as x32). you only need -mx32 if you want to do something like distcc and execute with toolchains that aren't targeting x32 by default. as for what are valid

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/05/2012 02:44 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > "There's never anything important in all that text." - Anonymous > Gentoo User The bad part is, that even reading of these messages can result in a breakage. I update a bunch of machines with these

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/05/2012 06:31 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson escribió: >> The ideal solution is for the Ebuild to instruct the PMS to rebuild >> the dependent packages. >> >> We can have a variable called REBUILD. All packages that would need to >> be rebuilt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git braindump: 2 of N: developer interaction (merge co-ordinators)

2012-06-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:04:33AM +0200, Micha?? G??rny wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:57:53 -0700 > Brian Harring wrote: > > > Btw, good catch on package.mask. Hhadn't thought of that, that > > *will* be the most contentious point. That can be dealt w/ via > > having git on portage-1 profil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:44:08 -0400 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > "There's never anything important in all that text." - Anonymous > Gentoo User To be fair, most einfo and elog messages are useless spam. When elog was introduced, it was supposed to be o

[gentoo-dev] x32 release candidate

2012-06-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
i'm pleased to announce the initial x32 release candidate: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/x32/stage3-amd64-x32-20120605.tar.xz the x32 ABI is the default one, and includes x86/amd64 ABIs. it is not using /lib32/ (and /lib is not a symlink) like our existing amd64 multilib as that is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git braindump: 1 of N: merging & git signing

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:57:42 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> If you go back and look at the tree you see a bunch of signed and >> unsigned commits.  How do you easily detect how the unsigned ones got >> there (via a dev with a merge commit, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 05-06-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Aaron W. Swenson escribió: [...] > "There's never anything important in all that text." - Anonymous > Gentoo User > > We've already determined that the users don't read the output. This is > a known fact. Something I repeat in #gentoo more often than I care to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-portage-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/04/2012 05:26 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Hello, will send this to gentoo-dev mailing list per Zac's > suggestion ;): > > ...They usually do a good job maintaining them, the only issue I > see they hit from time to time is forgetting to run JUST

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH vcs-snapshot] Use ${WORKDIR}/${P} rather than ${S} to support ${S} overrides.

2012-06-05 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > But could there be a case where fixing a build in the engine > wouldn't require data being rereleased? Or having the tag pointing > to the same commit it was pointing to previously? > > If upstream splits a package, and supports building/install

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH vcs-snapshot] Use ${WORKDIR}/${P} rather than ${S} to support ${S} overrides.

2012-06-05 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:47:33 +0200 hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/04/2012 10:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:26:00 +0200 hasufell > > wrote: > > > >> But minetest in sunrise for example which has two different > >> repos, one f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git braindump: 2 of N: developer interaction (merge co-ordinators)

2012-06-05 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:57:53 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > Btw, good catch on package.mask. Hhadn't thought of that, that > *will* be the most contentious point. That can be dealt w/ via > having git on portage-1 profile format so we'd have package.mask as > directories (which Ciaran will vali