On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 01:05 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> I *DON'T WANT* "a serious framework", I want a lightweight device
> manager... period... end of story. Stick with the unix principle of one
> app doing one thing well. mdev is enough for the vast majority of people.
For the people who don
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:23:36PM -0700, Greg KH wrote
> So you need to implement stuff such that you are not dependant on the
> bus type. If you see a new disk, act on it, it's that simple.
>
> But note, please do not be automounting disks from uevents directly.
After some more Google-searc
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:56:15AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote
> I don't know at what state udev was 3 or 4 years ago, but mdev can:
>
> 1. Populate /dev (now unnecessary due to devtmpfs).
> 2. Handle ownership, permissions and symlinks to /dev nodes once they
> appear, according to simple rules
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:23:36PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> Actually with all the hype about mdev these days, why not just use a 3
> year old version of udev (or maybe 4), that is probably what mdev is at
> as far as functionality goes. Why not just fork udev from then and go
> forward from that?
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> We learned that this is not a good idea at all, and should be left to
> userspace helper applications
> that listen for dbus messages.
Could you perhaps expand a bit on those reasons? E.g., I had good
experience with the following short script fo
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:53:53AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> After some Google-searching, I think I've figured out how to implement
> automounting under mdev. I'd like to put in as much sanity-checking
> into the script as possible. Right now I have 1 USB stick plugged in as
> /dev/sdb. Th h
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:09:23PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 14 May 2012 03:53:53 Walter Dnes wrote:
> > My question... is this API stable or deprecated? I.e. can I count on
> > it being around for a while? I figure this question is a developer type
> > question rather than ordin
On 14/05/12 23:42, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
I personally think that if an upstream says that no warnings must be
produced by the code, and a developer should look at them before
declaring any warnings safe, then that is best followed.
Upstream does not need to take into account warni
> "OC" == Olivier Crête writes:
OC> And I'm sure it works fine with udev?
It automounts when plugged in, if that is what you mean. (In fact each
partition does; the one in fstab(5) where it should and the one not in
fstab in a mount point based on its label.)
And the dev files get removed
>> My USB drive reports 0.
WD> You're right. Same for me. Thanks for pointing it out.
The removable flag specifies whether the drive has removable media;
before flash drives only things like floppy, optical, zip, etc drives
had removable==1. It also would be accurate for flash card readers.
> "AR" == Alexandre Rostovtsev writes:
AR> www-servers/nginx:pcre-jit - Enable JIT for pcre
This one also should remain un-unified. There may be other, unrelated
jit options in the future, whether affecting nginx itself or potential
PDEPENDs or ???.
-JimC
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On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 21:51 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
> wrote:
> > media-sound/csound:luajit - Use the lua just-in-time compiler
> > dev-lang/luajit instead of dev-lang/lua
> >
> > www-client/luakit:luajit - Use the lua just-in-time compi
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
> wrote:
> > Current local flags that could probably be unified:
>
> What about USE=orc? It's JIT in a sense — IIRC, it creates an
> executable in /tmp at run-time.
>
Doesn't make sen
Jeroen Roovers schrieb:
>> -Werror is basically saying that it is not safe to ship code which
>> produces warnings.
>
> An upstream demanding -Werror should work means upstream would need to
> test rather a lot more than their own favourite
> distro/architecture/library versions/kernel/userland, w
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
wrote:
> Current local flags that could probably be unified:
What about USE=orc? It's JIT in a sense — IIRC, it creates an
executable in /tmp at run-time.
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
wrote:
> media-sound/csound:luajit - Use the lua just-in-time compiler
> dev-lang/luajit instead of dev-lang/lua
>
> www-client/luakit:luajit - Use the lua just-in-time compiler
> dev-lang/luajit instead of dev-lang/lua, which should make luaki
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On 05/14/2012 06:03 PM, hasufell wrote:
> On 05/14/2012 06:13 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
>> On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 17:44 +0200, hasufell wrote:
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>>>
>>> However, I don't see references to ebuild
El dom, 06-05-2012 a las 18:38 +0200, Michael Weber escribió:
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> On 05/06/2012 05:35 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Well, in tree versions are still buggy and outdated, I would vote
> > for either: 1. Mask them for removal (server is already hardmas
El lun, 14-05-2012 a las 20:24 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:01:22 +0200
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>
> > -Werror is basically saying that it is not safe to ship code which
> > produces warnings.
>
> An upstream demanding -Werror should work means upstream w
El lun, 14-05-2012 a las 20:09 +0200, Agostino Sarubbo escribió:
> On Monday 14 May 2012 14:05:12 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> > I propose adding the following global USE flag:
> >
> > jit - Enable just-in-time compilation for improved performance. May
> > prevent use of some PaX memory protectio
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On 10/05/12 09:54, Olivier Crête wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 06:34 +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> I think expressing my own opinion about Lennart-made software is my
>> right, after all.
>
> I would express my opinion about Fabio made so
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:44:17 +0200
hasufell wrote:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>
> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
> howtos) how to handle Werror.
>
> Is there a common opinion on that. And shouldn't we add that to the
> documentation then?
On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:01:22 +0200
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> -Werror is basically saying that it is not safe to ship code which
> produces warnings.
An upstream demanding -Werror should work means upstream would need to
test rather a lot more than their own favourite
distro/architect
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2012 16:19:33 -0700
> Sébastien Fabbro wrote:
>
>> dev-lang/icc
>> dev-lang/ifc
>
>> they have up-to-date versions in the science overlay.
>
> Do these up-to-date ebuilds fix the Macrovision bug[1]? Do we even have
> a proper
On Monday 14 May 2012 14:05:12 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> I propose adding the following global USE flag:
>
> jit - Enable just-in-time compilation for improved performance. May
> prevent use of some PaX memory protection features in Gentoo Hardened.
>
>
> Current local flags that could proba
I propose adding the following global USE flag:
jit - Enable just-in-time compilation for improved performance. May
prevent use of some PaX memory protection features in Gentoo Hardened.
Current local flags that could probably be unified:
app-arch/libzpaq:jit - Enable just-in-time compilation f
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:31:25PM -0400, James Cloos wrote
> WD> cat /sys/block/sda/removable
> WD> 0
>
> Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
>
> My USB drive reports 0.
You're right. Same for me. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Walter Dnes
On 5/13/2012 4:27 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable
> "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to
> make.defaults in the base profile.
>
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
>
> See also bug 415575 [1].
>
> Any objections?
>
On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:56:39 -0400
Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 12:31 -0400, James Cloos wrote:
> > WD> cat /sys/block/sda/removable
> > WD> 0
> >
> > Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
> >
> > My USB drive reports 0.
>
> And I'm sure it works fin
On 05/14/2012 06:13 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 17:44 +0200, hasufell wrote:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>>
>> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
>> howtos) how to handle Werror.
>>
>> Is there a common opinion on that
On 5/14/2012 11:17 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Would be too difficult to finally fix ebuilds to properly convet
> shebangs and so and then, be able to have a proper system even when
> python3 is main interpreter?
Yeah, python_convert_shebangs is an easy fix for most cases.
> Personally, I run with i
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 12:31 -0400, James Cloos wrote:
> WD> cat /sys/block/sda/removable
> WD> 0
>
> Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
>
> My USB drive reports 0.
And I'm sure it works fine with udev?
"Those who do not understand udev are condemned to reinvent i
WD> cat /sys/block/sda/removable
WD> 0
Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
My USB drive reports 0.
-JimC
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On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 17:44 +0200, hasufell wrote:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>
> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
> howtos) how to handle Werror.
>
> Is there a common opinion on that. And shouldn't we add that to the
> documentation then?
On Monday 14 May 2012 11:44:17 hasufell wrote:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>
> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
> howtos) how to handle Werror.
>
> Is there a common opinion on that. And shouldn't we add that to the
> documentation then?
the
On Monday 14 May 2012 03:53:53 Walter Dnes wrote:
> My question... is this API stable or deprecated? I.e. can I count on
> it being around for a while? I figure this question is a developer type
> question rather than ordinary user type.
if userspace is relying on stuff in /sys, then it's part
hasufell schrieb:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
>
> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
> howtos) how to handle Werror.
>
> Is there a common opinion on that. And shouldn't we add that to the
> documentation then?
>
-Werror is basically saying that
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260867
However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or
howtos) how to handle Werror.
Is there a common opinion on that. And shouldn't we add that to the
documentation then?
El lun, 14-05-2012 a las 11:09 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió:
> On 5/14/2012 12:50 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > On 14 May 2012 04:27, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >> To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable
> >> "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to
> >> ma
On 5/14/2012 12:50 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 14 May 2012 04:27, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable
>> "out-of-the-box", the python team would like to add the following to
>> make.defaults in the base profile.
>>
>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
>>
>>
2012-05-14 06:58:30 Duncan napisał(a):
> Ulrich Mueller posted on Sat, 12 May 2012 20:39:05 +0200 as excerpted:
>
> > On Sat, 12 May 2012, Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> >> EXTRA_EMAKE isn't supposed to be mentioned there. It's an internal use
> >> variable for users who need to pass something specifi
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:53:53AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> After some Google-searching, I think I've figured out how to implement
> automounting under mdev. I'd like to put in as much sanity-checking
> into the script as possible. Right now I have 1 USB stick plugged in as
> /dev/sdb. Th h
After some Google-searching, I think I've figured out how to implement
automounting under mdev. I'd like to put in as much sanity-checking
into the script as possible. Right now I have 1 USB stick plugged in as
/dev/sdb. Th hard drive is /dev/sda. The "removable" data is readable
like so...
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