Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-07 Thread Kacper Kowalik
On 05/08/2012 02:01 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> There's a "server" profile which could be the answer. > > I've never seen that as being a terribly useful profile. Servers tend > to be very minimal configurations. Maybe if we ever ripped sshd

[gentoo-dev] Python without threads?

2012-05-07 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Upstream is talking about removing the ability to build python without threads support (non-double negative: future Python would require threads support). Is anyone here depending on building Python with -threads? Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/07/2012 09:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 20:58:18 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 05/07/2012 08:50 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:41:33 -0700 Zac Medico >>> wrote: >>> On 05/07/2012 01:43 P

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 07 May 2012 20:58:18 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/07/2012 08:50 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:41:33 -0700 Zac Medico > > wrote: > > > >> On 05/07/2012 01:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2012 08:50 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:41:33 -0700 Zac Medico > wrote: > >> On 05/07/2012 01:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:24:31 -0700 Zac Medico >>> wrote: >>> On 05/07/2012 12:18 PM, Ulri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
On 04/05/12 17:59, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote: >> On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets >>> called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to mdev. >> >> That's my idea =) > > a

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:41:33 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 05/07/2012 01:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:24:31 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > > > >> On 05/07/2012 12:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> > I propose: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
On 04/05/12 18:02, Greg KH wrote: > When was the last time dbus crashed on you? Last time I used with bluez? I think about few months ago, I hadn't time to debug the issue and I tend not to use stuff I known broken. I know that's a chicken egg issue =| I'm not sure if connman hanging randomly i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-07 Thread Richard Yao
On 05/07/12 21:40, Steven J Long wrote: > "The future of GNOME is as a Linux based OS. It is harmful to pretend > that you are writing the OS core to work on any number of different > kernels, user space subsystem combinations, and core libraries.. > Kernels just aren't that interesting. Linux is

[gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-07 Thread Steven J Long
Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 03:50:24PM +0100, Steven J Long wrote: >> >> To confirm again, that this is about without initramfs: >> > systemd and udev are being merged into one tarball. For the >> > "foreseeable future", it will still build 2 separate binaries. >> > What happens dow

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread hasufell
On 05/06/2012 12:52 PM, Davide Pesavento wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:34 AM, hasufell wrote: >> # grep :webkit use.local.desc | wc -l >> 33 >> >> I would vote to make this a global useflag: >> >> webkit - Adds support for the webkit library/module >> > > I suggest the following description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/08/12 07:16, Olivier Crête wrote: > On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 18:23 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:59:45PM -0700, Greg KH wrote >>> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote: On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: > What could work is a shim or

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >  There's a "server" profile which could be the answer. I've never seen that as being a terribly useful profile. Servers tend to be very minimal configurations. Maybe if we ever ripped sshd out of the default profile we might put it there, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:33:59AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote > The bottom line is that we don't need 47 different profile targets - > there will always be a "use" for 1 more. That's why we all run Gentoo > - we aren't bound by the decisions made for us by the package > maintainers. There's a "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Olivier Crête
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 18:23 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:59:45PM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets > > > > c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 06:06:52PM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > Remember, you are passing the complexity of insisting that you do not > > want these things to the people managing the packages and trying to > > support the system in so many different combinations. Why someone would > > want to run Chro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:59:45PM -0700, Greg KH wrote > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote: > > On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets > > > called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to mdev. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:41:33 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > What if '!webkit? ( !qt )' also applies though? As an alternative to > listing both constraints separately, you could combine them as '^^ ( > webkit !qt )', or add support for '== ( qt webkit )' to make the > expression easier to read. Forget

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/07/2012 01:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:24:31 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 05/07/2012 12:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> I propose: >>> REQUIRED_USE="== ( qt webkit )" >>> >>> But this just means

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:24:31 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 05/07/2012 12:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 May 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > >> I propose: > > > >> REQUIRED_USE="== ( qt webkit )" > > > > But this just means that the ebuild has redundant USE flags, so one

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/07/2012 12:33 PM, Stelian Ionescu wrote: > Isn't it the time to make a new EAPI which no longer has USE "flags" but > USE "values" ? Many of the really weird USE flags combinations would be > much more clearly expressed if the possible types for a USE variable > were: > 1) member-of: for choo

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/07/2012 12:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Mon, 7 May 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> I propose: > >> REQUIRED_USE="== ( qt webkit )" > > But this just means that the ebuild has redundant USE flags, so one of > them shouldn't be in IUSE, in the first place. It serves to conve

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Stelian Ionescu
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:11 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > On 05/06/2012 05:47 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > > 2012-05-06 02:34:26 hasufell napisał(a): > >> # grep :webkit use.local.desc | wc -l > >> 33 > >> > >> I would vote to make this a global useflag: > >> > >> webkit - Adds sup

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 7 May 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I propose: > REQUIRED_USE="== ( qt webkit )" But this just means that the ebuild has redundant USE flags, so one of them shouldn't be in IUSE, in the first place. Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/07/2012 11:26 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> REQUIRED_USE="webkit? ( gtk ) !webkit? ( !gtk ) gtk? ( webkit ) !gtk? ( >> !webkit )" > >> It's pretty awkward with the existing operators, but we could extend >> the REQUIRED_USE syntax to support an equivalent operator in a >> future EAPI. > > As

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 7 May 2012 20:26:08 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( webkit !qt )" Please provide an algorithm that will turn that into an appropriate error message for displaying to a user. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 07 May 2012, Zac Medico wrote: > Another possible way to model this kind of relationship would be to > us REQUIRED_USE to enforce relationships with the qt and gtk flags: > REQUIRED_USE="webkit? ( qt ) !webkit? ( !qt ) qt? ( webkit ) !qt? ( > !webkit )" This line just says that eit

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:11:04 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > REQUIRED_USE="webkit? ( qt ) !webkit? ( !qt ) qt? ( webkit ) !qt? ( > !webkit )" Why do you need to write it both ways? > It's pretty awkward with the existing operators, but we could extend > the REQUIRED_USE syntax to support an equivalent

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/06/2012 05:47 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2012-05-06 02:34:26 hasufell napisał(a): >> # grep :webkit use.local.desc | wc -l >> 33 >> >> I would vote to make this a global useflag: >> >> webkit - Adds support for the webkit library/module > > I suggest to use separate qt-

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite =www-client/firefox-3.6*

2012-05-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (07 May 2012) # Upstream discontinued security support for 3.6 series. # Blocking net-libs/xulrunner removal wrt bug #403415. # If you still need these, now is the time to copy them # to your local overlay. # Masked for removal in 30 days. =www-client/firefox-3.6*

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for (libre)office extensions: office-ext?

2012-05-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > On Sun, 6 May 2012, Andreas K Huettel wrote: > > I've collected information and the extensions (should) work with any > > office variant, openoffice and libreoffice. To be more precise, they > > should work with anything that uses the so-called "uno bridge". > > > > This is why I like the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/traverso: traverso-0.49.2-r1.ebuild ChangeLog traverso-0.49.2.ebuild traverso-0.49.1.ebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 7 May 2012 21:00:18 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 7 May 2012 20:35, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> +  07 May 2012; Ben de Groot > >> +  +files/traverso-0.49.2-desktop.patch, > >> +files/traverso-0.49.2-gold.patch, > > > > that patch is not portable, please fix > > I considered that, but t

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/traverso: traverso-0.49.2-r1.ebuild ChangeLog traverso-0.49.2.ebuild traverso-0.49.1.ebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Alexis Ballier
> + 07 May 2012; Ben de Groot > + +files/traverso-0.49.2-desktop.patch, > +files/traverso-0.49.2-gold.patch, that patch is not portable, please fix > + +traverso-0.49.2-r1.ebuild, -traverso-0.49.1.ebuild, > -traverso-0.49.2.ebuild: this leaves a stray patch in files, please fix

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: app-misc/beagle and related dependencies

2012-05-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (07 May 2012) # Dead upstream. Removal in 30 days. Bugs 339811, # 372009 and 414837. Use app-misc/tracker or any other # indexer instead. app-misc/beagle app-misc/beagle-xesam dev-libs/libbeagle sys-fs/beaglefs

Re: [gentoo-dev] skel.ebuild cosmetics (move RESTRICT after DEPEND)

2012-05-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/07/2012 02:24 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Therefore I suggest we move this example a bit down in skel.ebuild as it's more logical to continue with new lines instead of applying in-between Any objections? Yes. Please leave it as it is. Yeah, I will if someone has a (good) argument for

Re: [gentoo-dev] add global useflag: webkit

2012-05-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/07/2012 04:00 AM, hasufell wrote: On 05/07/2012 02:47 AM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2012-05-06 02:34:26 hasufell napisał(a): # grep :webkit use.local.desc | wc -l 33 I would vote to make this a global useflag: webkit - Adds support for the webkit library/module I sugg