[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:20:39 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > All developers should enable it (a QA enforcement), but users by default > - no, NO. > There is more to a distribution than technical considerations. Yes, please, and can we do it now? I am frankly sick of failing testsuites and would r

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Alistair Bush
Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Enabling tests by default feels like driving users away, because all of > a sudden their upgrades taken even more time (possibly unexplained to > them, as an EAPI bump in an ebuild introducing it is not visible to > them), and they'd just say to hell with it and go to a bin

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Alistair Bush
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Unfortunately, it looks like this proposal's one of those things that > some people will hate for ideological reasons no matter what. I just > hope there're enough people on the Council for whom QA and user systems > not breaking is sufficiently important that they'll vo

[gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.28 stabilization plans

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Pagano
Hello, The kernel team is tentatively planning to request that gentoo-sources-2.6.28 gets marked stable on x86+amd64 on May 3rd, assuming we have fixed all regressions (we have some open, which will hopefully be fixed soon). We currently only have one open out-of-kernel package bug. This bug,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread James Rowe
* Marijn Schouten (hkBst) (hk...@gentoo.org) wrote: > James Rowe wrote: > > Package tests will have been run a -- possibly large -- number of > > times when users see them if they are rolled in to the EAPI bump. This > > isn't like the current situation of enabling tests and hoping somebody > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Rowe wrote: > * Christian Faulhammer (fa...@gentoo.org) wrote: >> Some years ago as a Gentoo beginner I read the documentation of >> FEATURES and enabled "test", because it sounded useful. After one week >> I disabled it again as merges took to