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James Rowe wrote:
> * Christian Faulhammer (fa...@gentoo.org) wrote:
>>  Some years ago as a Gentoo beginner I read the documentation of
>> FEATURES and enabled "test", because it sounded useful.  After one week
>> I disabled it again as merges took too long and some failures occured.
>> Read: As a normal user I don't want src_test for every single package
>> that is installed on my system for whatever reason.  FEATURES=test is
>> perfect for people who help maintain the distribution or want to test a
>> specific subset of packages they heavily rely on.
> 
>   I'm just a user and I run with FEATURES=test, and have done since at
> least March 2005[1].  I've definitely toyed with disabling it myself,
> but only because developers aren't using it, which means I catch bugs[2]
> that would have never existed if the developer had `test' enabled.

Just because we find failing tests doesn't mean we have time (or inclination) to
investigate and fix them.

>>  So imposing that penalty on everyone even the unexperienced will
>> likely confuse some people.  Go to the forums or the support mailing
>> list to see what I mean.
> 
>   Package tests will have been run a -- possibly large -- number of
> times when users see them if they are rolled in to the EAPI bump.  This
> isn't like the current situation of enabling tests and hoping somebody
> has run them during testing.

You conclusion that developers do not run tests is based on nothing. Using
RESTRICT=test is not a fix and just hides the problem, so it is not unthinkable
that packages with failing tests get to stable.

Marijn

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If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say.

Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML
<http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode
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