Re: [gentoo-dev] I'm "frilled" to present to you, a new Gentoo developer

2006-07-28 Thread Peter Gordon
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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-java] Gentoo/Java staffing needs

2006-07-28 Thread Joshua Nichols
Miroslav Ć ulc wrote: > I would also appreciate more information on Java ebuilds development. I > don't remember I've seen somewhere slotting "howto" for Java ebuilds, > but I may miss something. > For Java specific information, check out the developer guide: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/jav

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Alastair Tse
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 11:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by developers (big > > thank

[gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Danny van Dyk wrote: > 5 packages, and only one has nowebdav, and you want to make it a default > USE flag? I strongly disagree here. Make it a plain useflag and notify > users of subversion that the behaviour changed. Much better than > informing users of the other 4 packages that the behaviour ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Medinas
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 22:09 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:49:02 +0200 Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > > > I just understand it so, that if a user submits a new ebuild he has to > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-28 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Chris, on Friday, 2006-07-28 at 09:41:09, you wrote: > Well, we would hope that people using the package would file a bug, but > this obviously doesn't always happen. Even if it happens that doesn't mean anything is gonna change :) I'd like to get involved and help out with stuff like this but

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:49:02 +0200 Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > I just understand it so, that if a user submits a new ebuild he has to > > in fact maintain it. So overall maintenance time required by his > > op

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:26:37 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An ebuild offer several advantages even for tiny packages. If it is self-maintained ebuild, it depends on complexity of it. Currently I have one application outside the portage tree and I found out to easier/

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:26:31 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the > > > major advantage of Gentoo is easy mai

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:46 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert Cernansky wrote: >>> If I have some application that is not included in portage why >>> I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:46 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:26:31 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the > > major advantage of Gentoo is easy maintenace (not mindless, but > > easy if you know what you are doing) thanks to

Re: [gentoo-dev] webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Freitag, 28. Juli 2006 10:18 schrieb Stefan Schweizer: > Hi > > we currently have both webdav and nowebdav ueflags, this is > confusing: > > # grep webdav /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc > dev-util/git:webdav - Adds support for push'ing to HTTP repositories > via DAV dev-util/subversion:now

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Robert Cernansky wrote: > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by developers (big > thanks for this). If I have to take care of package + ebuild + > dependen

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Cernansky wrote: > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the major > advantage of Gentoo is easy maintenace (not mindless, but easy if you > know what you are doing) thanks to portage system. Another is > availability of l

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:19:14 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the developers could let all these three points at the hands of the > user wanting to get the ebuild included into the tree. [...] > The user has to compromise to take care of those previous commented > three

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > The gentoo devs currently do much of the upstream's work. > Fixing bugs or even adding new stuff which does not directly have to > do w/ gentoo should be done exlusively by the upstream. > Not true at all. We (as developers)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: Hi, > Well, my idea is more focused on getting closer the developer with the > user, in the sense that they would be like a team (as i already said) , > where the developer is the official figure in the group. So, at some so far okay, but we p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 22:55 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > But, nobody likes doing the small stuff, and I can't blame them. > > I understand. I do not expect that these packages will have same > attention by developers as major ones. I would understand if > stabilisat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 11:11 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: > On 7/27/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't interpret my original message as a complaint. It isn't. > It is mostly a question of the process. My understanding of > stabilization bugs was that they should be the ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luca Longinotti
Uhh just my two cents on this whoule proxy-dev stuff... I concede it _is_ a good idea and can have it's benefits, but I can't see it as an "alternative" to Sunrise... as an addition, that both exist and the user can use both channels, ok, but not as a 1:1 sobstitute to Sunrise. I'm not really sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 09:24 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> I'd say no bugs, 30 days, passes internal tests, being run by users => > >> stablise, for the majority of packages (obviously, there may be some > >> exceptions...). > >> > > > > Luckily, you're not making the

[gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > I'd like to explain why subversion has a nowebdav useflag. Basically one > of the features of subversion is its ability to work over the http > protocol. Many subversion installations use the apache module to serve > subversion (even our own overlay project does). To disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:02 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:35:24AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > Mike asked you repeatedly to voice your issues or concerns in relation > > to Project Sunrise, which you failed to reply to. > > How many times are we supposed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:35:24AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > Mike asked you repeatedly to voice your issues or concerns in relation > to Project Sunrise, which you failed to reply to. How many times are we supposed to raise our concerns about a project whose founders already agreed to run t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: >> 3 - Users ask on this mailing list if there exist any developer >> interested to include X, or Y ebuild into the tree. (Probably we could >> create a template for this?) > > The user should sen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 18:21 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Stefan Schweizer wrote: > > In last weeks council meeting [1] it was decided that the Sunrise project is > > no longer suspended. I can give a short overview of the current status of > > the overlay: > > > > - we currently have 154 ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 28 July 2006 10:18, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Hi > > we currently have both webdav and nowebdav ueflags, this is confusing: > > # grep webdav /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc > dev-util/git:webdav - Adds support for push'ing to HTTP repositories via > DAV dev-util/subversion:nowebdav

[gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: > 3 - Users ask on this mailing list if there exist any developer > interested to include X, or Y ebuild into the tree. (Probably we could > create a template for this?) The user should send the ebuild changes together with the mail. Make it look like on LKML including

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-28 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 01:55 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > To my former fellow Gentoo developers and users, > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > > To my fellow Gentoo developers and users, > > > > In last weeks council meeting [1] it was decided that the S

[gentoo-dev] webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi we currently have both webdav and nowebdav ueflags, this is confusing: # grep webdav /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc dev-util/git:webdav - Adds support for push'ing to HTTP repositories via DAV dev-util/subversion:nowebdav - Disables WebDAV support via neon library net-misc/sitecopy:webda

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-07-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:31:28PM -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > i'll miss you greatly, brix. You made my laptop and wireless (madwifi) worlds > much much happier places. i'm on devaway, but when I'm back, if no one else > has > done it, i'll xmlify your pcmciautils doc -- you were the one who took