On 19-03-2006 11:16:10 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> I would really like to see a new GNUstep maintainer
[...]
Gentoo is now officially looking for people interested to maintain,
expand (*and FIX* :) ) GNUstep applications on Gentoo. We expect
interested persons to be willing to maintain GNUstep in a l
Duncan Coutts wrote:
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:47 -0800, Ryan Phillips wrote:
We need to pick one VCS and only one. Having multiple systems
requires users to install multiple applications and learn each one.
Not all of them are easy to pick up. Plus, it would be nice to be
able to merge from t
Simon Strandman wrote:
It seems like toolchain.eclass does something wrong when configuring gcc
4.1 snapshots. I decided to try gcc 4.1 on my server so I created a
gcc-4.1.1.20060324 ebuild and defined the SNAPSHOT variable in it
(current cvs has a lot of bugfixes since the release). This is th
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:47 -0800, Ryan Phillips wrote:
> We need to pick one VCS and only one. Having multiple systems
> requires users to install multiple applications and learn each one.
> Not all of them are easy to pick up. Plus, it would be nice to be
> able to merge from the overlays to t
Fernando J. Pereda wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 06:18:52PM EST]
> Well, I find it easier to understand than many other DVCSs out there...
> In fact I don't think it is difficult to use in any way. Maybe pre-1.1
> versions had some syntax weirdnesses, but the 1.2 series are really easy
> to use and und
Aron Griffis wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 05:16:57AM EST]
Please consider git and mercurial proxies, maybe nobody proposed it
yet but is relatively easy to provide it and it would be great since
gives you most of the goods from darks w/out the pain related of
building it.
Coul
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 06:12:07PM -0500, Aron Griffis wrote:
> I should backpedal on that statement a bit... While I think it's true
> historically, git is doing a great job for kernel development, and it
> can't be criticized lightly. Nonetheless, similar power is available
> in other DVCSs tha
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 06:00:49PM -0500, Aron Griffis wrote:
> Ryan Phillips wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 01:47:51AM EST]
> > It sounds to me like the overlays would benefit of using git/cogito.
> > The Linux Kernel uses this DVCS to full affect. Pulling changes from
> > other repositories, and even
Aron Griffis wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 06:00:49PM EST]
> Ryan Phillips wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 01:47:51AM EST]
> > It sounds to me like the overlays would benefit of using git/cogito.
> > The Linux Kernel uses this DVCS to full affect. Pulling changes from
> > other repositories, and even receivi
Luca Barbato wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 05:16:57AM EST]
> Please consider git and mercurial proxies, maybe nobody proposed it
> yet but is relatively easy to provide it and it would be great since
> gives you most of the goods from darks w/out the pain related of
> building it.
Could you point to s
Ryan Phillips wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 01:47:51AM EST]
> It sounds to me like the overlays would benefit of using git/cogito.
> The Linux Kernel uses this DVCS to full affect. Pulling changes from
> other repositories, and even receiving email patches pushed from
> people not having their own offi
Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Saturday 25 March 2006 19:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
>> This is the same line of thinking that makes people use flash or wmv
>> "because it's the silly Linux users that has to adapt, Windows works fine"
>> and similar.
>
> It's not. Darcs is not proprietary, so
On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:49, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Duncan wrote:
> > I believe that's a fair summation of the arguments. My personal opinion,
> > for whatever it's worth as a user on the dev list, is that the CC point
> > is a valid one, the CC list should be a pretty decent measure of inte
On Friday 24 March 2006 10:41, Andres Loeh wrote:
> At the moment, Haskell is only a herd and a team, not a project.
Then stand up my brother! perl wasn't so different, so we snuck in a project
page. no one said anything. i'm going with we're a project to govern the
direction and maintenance of
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:28:05 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| As of now, vim 7 alpha is unsupported and should no longer be used.
| For those of you who don't think I'm a "security risk", there're vim
| 7 beta ebuilds at:
|
| http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/tmp/vim-beta-overlay.ta
On Saturday 25 March 2006 19:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> This is the same line of thinking that makes people use flash or wmv
> "because it's the silly Linux users that has to adapt, Windows works fine"
> and similar.
It's not. Darcs is not proprietary, so you can make it work if you wa
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:37:24PM +0100, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Friday 24 March 2006 20:18, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > I really can't think of much besides kernel + toolchain that can have
> > such devastating effects to the rest of the tree. The only other
> > massive breakages would be via
On Friday 24 March 2006 16:41, Andres Loeh wrote:
> At the moment, Haskell is only a herd and a team, not a project. But this
> is certainly something that can be addressed, should it be necessary to
> change that.
In my regards you are a project, just not one that has a project page.
Paul
--
P
On Friday 24 March 2006 20:18, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> I really can't think of much besides kernel + toolchain that can have
> such devastating effects to the rest of the tree. The only other
> massive breakages would be via eclasses, which was my main target.
glibc is a good candidate. And po
On Saturday 25 March 2006 16:08, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> I don't think it's
> acceptable to base our decisions on platforms nearly no one is using.
I'll try to avoid a flame reminding when Linux was really used only by a few
geeks...
And I'm trying to avoid saying this, but the day was sucky and
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:28 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> As of now, vim 7 alpha is unsupported and should no longer be used. For
> those of you who don't think I'm a "security risk", there're vim 7 beta
> ebuilds at:
>
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/tmp/vim-beta-overlay.tar.bz2
>
> Note that
On Saturday 25 March 2006 12:49, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/kFreeBSD, GNU/Hurd, Solaris?
It's great that you and others are working on alternative platforms, but
regarding decisions which tools we use, our main platforms are of interest.
Everyone else should/has to m
As of now, vim 7 alpha is unsupported and should no longer be used. For
those of you who don't think I'm a "security risk", there're vim 7 beta
ebuilds at:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/tmp/vim-beta-overlay.tar.bz2
Note that this includes an eclass update, and eclasses and overlays
don't mix par
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:37:45 +
Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:32 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:58 +
> > Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
It seems like toolchain.eclass does something wrong when configuring gcc
4.1 snapshots. I decided to try gcc 4.1 on my server so I created a
gcc-4.1.1.20060324 ebuild and defined the SNAPSHOT variable in it
(current cvs has a lot of bugfixes since the release). This is the way
I've done it with
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:32 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:58 +
> Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> >
> > > This is a valid issue, as ghc is only supplied upstream for linux
> >
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:58 +
Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
>
> > This is a valid issue, as ghc is only supplied upstream for linux
> > (some older versions available in mingw32).
>
> I don't think this is right.
Ryan Phillips posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below, on Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:47:51 -0800:
> We need to pick one VCS and only one. Having multiple systems
> requires users to install multiple applications and learn each one.
> Not all of them are easy to pick up. Plus, it would be nice to b
On Saturday 25 March 2006 12:41, Duncan Coutts wrote:
> We've got ghc working on ppc-osx and ghc of course works on FreeBSD
> (it's in FreeBSD ports) so all it needs is a helper for Gentoo/FreeBSD.
NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/kFreeBSD, GNU/Hurd, Solaris?
Really it's not a cheap dependency as it is now, e
On Saturday 25 March 2006 12:42, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> If you're suggesting CVS as the second VCS (i.e. in addition to SVN)
> then I don't see the point - SVN is simply a better CVS and clients
> should be available on the alt platforms.
No, I was just stating the fact that cvs in itself
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:42 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> This is a valid issue, as ghc is only supplied upstream for linux (some
> older versions available in mingw32).
I don't think this is right. All the recent ghc versions have been
supplied upstream on many OSs including installers
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 03:31 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Darcs, instead, is written in Haskell, which means you need architectures
> that
> supports Haskell, and in which it's stable enough to work... considering we
> have Gentoo/Alt, it's not that good to "cut" us off (yes I know
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:31:34 +0100
"Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although I don't know darcs at all in terms of use and feature, I
> would really suggest to _not_ use it. For a simple reason, actually:
> cvs has almost no cost added, as it's present on every major
> dist
Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Thanks for the summary. I think that's a fair assessment of where we are at.
>
> The offered software will be trac, svn, and moinmoin. I'm going to
> look at darcs, and with the help of the haskell team and infra
> determine if we can support it or not. No-one has expres
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