Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Marcelo Góes wrote: | > Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that | > install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the | > logrotate USE flag. | > | > I'm making it a global US

Re: [gentoo-dev] xinetd use flag and xinetd files being installed

2006-01-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
William Hubbs wrote: I don't really like the install_mask idea for this because you can't set that on a per-package basis that I am aware of, and we have several packages that have an xinetd use flag. Why would you want it on a per-package basis? Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

[gentoo-dev] xinetd use flag and xinetd files being installed

2006-01-28 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:33:26PM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > How about the packages that don't even ask and just install logrotate > stuff? Like Apache, lighttpd, and mysql? What about xinetd? The same thing is happening there. I have some file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread Mikey
On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:39, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > On second thought, never mind :) I am not sure what you are trying to > > point out here in the first place. > > He is trying (quite successfully) to show that you are full of shit. In this particular case, I might have to agree wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
Reposting since I don't think my last e-mail got through... On 1/29/06, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People who don't want it can set INSTALL_MASK. It should be installed by > default and not switchable with a USE flag. If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Alec Warner
Marcelo Góes wrote: > It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: > Perhaps it should be a global USE flag? We have discussed this "fairly recently"[1] so I'll post the link to save everyone the hassle. [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-dev&w=2&r=1&s=logrotate&q=b > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Marcelo Góes wrote: Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the logrotate USE flag. I'm making it a global USE flag if nobody complains. You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/28/06, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > How about the packages that don't even ask and just install logrotate > > stuff? Like Apache, lighttpd, and mysql? > > > > they should use it, MySQL will be updated when Marcelo make "logrotate" > uf global Indeed,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Francesco Riosa
Doug Goldstein wrote: > Marcelo Góes wrote: >> It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: >> >> use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files >> for logrotate >> use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files >> for logrotate >> use.lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Doug Goldstein
Marcelo Góes wrote: > It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: > > use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files > for logrotate > use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files > for logrotate > use.local.desc:899:net-ftp/vsftpd:lo

[gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:899:net-ftp/vsftpd:logrotate - Use logrotate for rotati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread Stephen P. Becker
MIkey wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: Using this flags on a freshly compiled stage3 (from a stage1, just running emerge system without setting useflags) I get no blockers at all, when setting the useflags at the point that system has been recompiled. Depclean does suggest removing a number of pac

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread MIkey
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Using this flags on a freshly compiled stage3 (from a stage1, just running > emerge system without setting useflags) I get no blockers at all, when > setting the useflags at the point that system has been recompiled. > > Depclean does suggest removing a number of packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/28/06, Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question here now actually is: "is csh worth the hassle, or not?" > My opinion is that it is not. csh_is_not_worth_it++; It is causing trouble and not adding functionality. Unless there are cases where tcsh is not backwards compatible, I say it

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Lares Moreau
On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 17:09 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:51:20 + (UTC) Markus Dittrich > | > | My apologies, that should have been Mar[ck]uses! > > No, that would be Marci. Now write it down a hundred times. If it's not > done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off. No

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread MIkey
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Using this flags on a freshly compiled stage3 (from a stage1, just running > emerge system without setting useflags) I get no blockers at all, when > setting the useflags at the point that system has been recompiled. Are you suggesting that on fresh installs, after editing

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:51:20 + (UTC) Markus Dittrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: | > On Saturday 28 January 2006 16:34, Markus Dittrich wrote: | > > Good to have some more Markuses on the team :) | > > Welcome! | > | > Am I the only one who spells

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Please welcome Markus to the team. > Hi Markus! :) Welcome Markus :) > use repoman || die > > [This time it was the case to use this lame joke, right? :)] " - Kaboom?" " - Yes Rico, kaboom." -- K

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Saturday 28 January 2006 16:34, Markus Dittrich wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Please welcome Markus to the team. > > Good to have some more Markuses on the team :) > Welcome! > > cheers, > Markus Am I the only one who spells it properly? :D pgpfrwzFPfDxr.pgp Descri

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Markus Dittrich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: > On Saturday 28 January 2006 16:34, Markus Dittrich wrote: > > Good to have some more Markuses on the team :) > > Welcome! > > Am I the only one who spells it properly? :D > My apologies, that should ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Markus Dittrich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Please welcome Markus to the team. > Good to have some more Markuses on the team :) Welcome! cheers, Markus - -- Markus Dittrich (markusle) Gentoo Linux Developer Scientific applications -BEGI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 26 January 2006 16:40, Mikey wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:12, Chris Gianelloni spammed: > > Something else that *everybody* seems to be missing is that the *first* > > method in the GCC upgrading guide, which is the one that would apply > > from a fresh-installed system, seem

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 01:47:27 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > > To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following. > Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it > consistently, and allow users to switch when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:32, MIkey wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Would you mind sharing the useflags you mean, and which packages you want > > to build? It might be bugs in the packages involved. > > My standard USE flags for building a lamp server. No X, no cruft. > > USE="-X -alsa -apm

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 09:38:05 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:31:55 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | In fact, I'd like to have only sh, because I never use bash. > > How did you become a Gentoo developer? Guess I forgot to put the word 'interactively' at the end of tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 12:37 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please welcome Markus to the team. ... and once again a candidate for the one and only German conspiracy :) Welcome aboard, Markus! wkr, Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 28 January 2006 10:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it > consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and > tcsh installed. I started working on something like that for gtar/bsdtar, but I found that I don

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 28 January 2006 12:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please welcome Markus to the team. Hi Markus! :) use repoman || die [This time it was the case to use this lame joke, right? :)] -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread sanchan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please welcome Markus to the team. Welcome to the team! :-) -- Sandro (Sanchan) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread Benjamin Smee
heya, On Saturday 28 January 2006 11:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please welcome Markus to the team. Great to have you onboard Markus. Welcome :) -- Benjamin Smee (strerror) net-mail/netmon/forensics/crypto Fingerprint: 497F 5E98 1FA0 C313 EA0B 08C7 004A 66ED 448B E78C pgpcJ3zjS50kH.pgp De

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Jokey (Markus Ullmann)

2006-01-28 Thread kloeri
Hi all. Markus has been contributing to gentoo through bugzilla and bugdays for a few months and have now finally joined the ranks of official Gentoo developers. Markus is going to help with netmon related ebuilds. Markus tells us about himself: "I'm a 23 year old geek, trying to spread linux ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following. Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and tcsh installed. -- Robin Hugh Johnso

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:31:55 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | In fact, I'd like to have only sh, because I never use bash. How did you become a Gentoo developer? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (King of all Londinium) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Grobian
On 28-01-2006 12:05:30 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: > On Срд, 2006-01-25 at 20:57 +0100, Grobian wrote: > > Are there any objections to removing csh from the tree? If there are no > > problems with csh removal before Feb 1st 2006, then I will starting from > > that date work on getting csh rem

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Срд, 2006-01-25 at 20:57 +0100, Grobian wrote: > Are there any objections to removing csh from the tree? If there are no > problems with csh removal before Feb 1st 2006, then I will starting from > that date work on getting csh removed by masking it, blocking tcsh and > csh, and request for upd