Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Robert Paskowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 twofourtysix wrote: >> On 05/07/05, Robert Paskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > You have encouraged gentoo to remove patent-encoumbered software from portage. I'd like to see you personally work with only software that does not conta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 twofourtysix wrote: > On 05/07/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 06:59:24AM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: >> >>>uncensored, I'll accept that Gentoo as an organisation has no >>>influence over the content. Otherwise, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 04/07/2005-21:38:01(-0700): Anthony Gorecki types > On Monday, July 04, 2005 9:15 pm, Brian Jackson wrote: > > If someone removes something that belongs to me, software patents or not, > > I'll be asking for removal of (at the very least) their cvs access. > > I believe that the original

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/07/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 06:59:24AM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: > > uncensored, I'll accept that Gentoo as an organisation has no > > influence over the content. Otherwise, by moderating the contents, > > Gentoo is implicitly accepting responsibil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:01:34AM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: > On 05/07/05, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > not being privvy to -core ( where I hear this was started and > > subsequently moved to -dev ) I can only assume you didn't find what you > > wanted on -core and are trolling for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 06:59:24AM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: > uncensored, I'll accept that Gentoo as an organisation has no > influence over the content. Otherwise, by moderating the contents, > Gentoo is implicitly accepting responsibility for the items which > remain. > So the fact that the f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Not to mention all the software written in Java ... and other things in the Portage tree like VMWare ... skype ... acroread ... Really ... you can take those out of the Portage tree. I can -- and often do -- download them directly and install them. On Gentoo, CentOS, Debian, Fedora and Windows. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/07/05, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not being privvy to -core ( where I hear this was started and > subsequently moved to -dev ) I can only assume you didn't find what you > wanted on -core and are trolling for a decent response here. Not being privy to -core either, I am wonderi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/07/05, Robert Paskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have encouraged gentoo to remove patent-encoumbered software from > portage. I'd like to see you personally work with only software that > does not contain any patented work. No, I have encouraged Gentoo to remove software written by c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 not being privvy to -core ( where I hear this was started and subsequently moved to -dev ) I can only assume you didn't find what you wanted on -core and are trolling for a decent response here. I am certain there are people who agree with you on a id

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Robert Paskowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > I personally am not going around encouraging people to take a stance > upon an issue whilst simultaneously helping out the very people > against whom one is supposed to be standing. You have encouraged gentoo to remove patent-encoumbered software

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/07/05, Robert Paskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you personally prepared to practice what you preach? You had better > start by uninstalling the linux kernel... I personally am not going around encouraging people to take a stance upon an issue whilst simultaneously helping out the ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Monday, July 04, 2005 10:14 pm, Stuart Longland wrote: > Why stop there? Why not extend it to hardware manufacturers that make > heavy use of patents? > > Good luck finding a decent video card for that lovely desktop of yours. :-) I'm still holding out hope that the open sourced video card pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Robert Paskowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are you personally prepared to practice what you preach? You had better start by uninstalling the linux kernel... twofourtysix wrote: > On 05/07/05, Anthony Gorecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Monday, July 04, 2005 9:15 pm, Brian Jackson wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 04 July 2005 11:07 pm, twofourtysix wrote: > Are these people prepared to back up their views by removing from the > tree all those ebuilds for software made by companies who make heavy > use of software patents? not a chance -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Stuart Longland
twofourtysix wrote: > I applaud all those people on the Planet who are posting > anti-software-patent banners in their blogs. It's good to see yet > another major software project taking a stance. Heh, notice mine's not amongst them... but it will be. I'm carefully constructing my post now. :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/07/05, Anthony Gorecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday, July 04, 2005 9:15 pm, Brian Jackson wrote: > > If someone removes something that belongs to me, software patents or not, > > I'll be asking for removal of (at the very least) their cvs access. > > I believe that the original pos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Monday, July 04, 2005 9:15 pm, Brian Jackson wrote: > If someone removes something that belongs to me, software patents or not, > I'll be asking for removal of (at the very least) their cvs access. I believe that the original poster's intent was to post a request for comments, although it was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Brian Jackson
If someone removes something that belongs to me, software patents or not, I'll be asking for removal of (at the very least) their cvs access. If not, I'll be asking for their total removal from the project. You can have all the views you want on the world. I do. This is a technical project, not you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't really see removing software from the tree because it's made by a company that uses software patents as a choice that improves the user experience with Gentoo. It doesn't make Gentoo more useful for anyone. Just as software thats not open sou

[gentoo-dev] Software patents

2005-07-04 Thread twofourtysix
I applaud all those people on the Planet who are posting anti-software-patent banners in their blogs. It's good to see yet another major software project taking a stance. Are these people prepared to back up their views by removing from the tree all those ebuilds for software made by companies who

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package moves as repocopies

2005-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 04 July 2005 06:41 pm, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:59:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > umm, that is until someone thinks it's a good idea to delete old stuff > > > > case in point, wtf is app-games in gentoo-x86 ? we split all the games > > packages into gam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package moves as repocopies

2005-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:59:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > umm, that is until someone thinks it's a good idea to delete old stuff > > case in point, wtf is app-games in gentoo-x86 ? we split all the games > packages into games-* categories but we lost all the history because > app-games

[gentoo-dev] eBook manage script

2005-07-04 Thread José Alberto Suárez López
I yet wat to remove all the app-doc/ebook-* ebuilds so made a script to manage all the ebooks in lidn. To install just "emerge ebookmerge" *example of use : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ebookmerge.sh -s python * Results for python : python-2.2.1.tgz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ebookmerge.sh -e python-2.2.1.tg

Re: [gentoo-dev] libphp4.so installed twice in dev-php/mod_php

2005-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 04 July 2005 10:46 am, Nico Rittner wrote: > why is the exactly same file installed twice ? looks like a bug, maybe you should try filing one -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] libphp4.so installed twice in dev-php/mod_php

2005-07-04 Thread Nico Rittner
Hi, why is the exactly same file installed twice ? /var/db/pkg/dev-php/mod_php-4.3.11/CONTENTS : .. dir /usr/lib dir /usr/lib/php dir /usr/lib/apache obj /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.so 788d1b4d2166ab82fee1dfb5c96b175e 1120486898 dir /usr/lib/apache-extramodules obj /usr/lib/apache-extramodules

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: qt.eclass

2005-07-04 Thread Gregorio Guidi
On Saturday 02 July 2005 22:54, Caleb Tennis wrote: > While your proposal works okay for the qt4 scenario, I'm more concerned > with the existing qt3 at the moment. As is, I stil l don't see a way > around what has been proposed for those ebuilds. Until portage has the > ability to handle && de

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category+herd proposal: app-backup

2005-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Ok, so it took me a bit longer than planned to create this, but now thanks to epkgmove, I have got the new category together. If there is other stuff that has been added to the tree since this list was put together, please drop me a note on it, and i'll move it. There is also a request for new mai

[gentoo-dev] herds for category metadata?

2005-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I was just finally shuffling packages into the app-backup category (originally discussed in March, but not implementing due to epkgmove status at the time), and I wanted to put the herd into the category metadata, but I found that we don't allow it presently. Could the metadata.dtd please be chang