Re: template for TLP-proposal (Was: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP)

2004-09-23 Thread Scherler, Thorsten
David Crossley wrote: thorsten wrote: Greg Stein wrote: Oh, no need to apologize! I just was hoping to track it down to fix it for future submissions. Search/replace isn't that terrible, but after a while... ya know :-) I will ask David, he will know where there have it from. ;-) Maybe there is a

template for TLP-proposal (Was: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP)

2004-09-23 Thread David Crossley
thorsten wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > > > Oh, no need to apologize! I just was hoping to track it down to fix it for > > future submissions. Search/replace isn't that terrible, but after a > > while... ya know :-) > > I will ask David, he will know where there have it from. ;-) Maybe there > is

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:05:33AM +0200, Rolf Kulemann wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:28, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:54:55PM +0200, thorsten wrote: > > > Greg Stein wrote: > ... > > In any case, the Board passed the resolution :-) > > > > I'll be sending out a summary of

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-23 Thread thorsten
Greg Stein wrote: Oh, no need to apologize! I just was hoping to track it down to fix it for future submissions. Search/replace isn't that terrible, but after a while... ya know :-) I will ask David, he will know where there have it from. ;-) Maybe there is a faulty template lurking around. In an

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-23 Thread Michael Wechner
Greg Stein wrote: In any case, the Board passed the resolution :-) cool :-) Thanks Michi I'll be sending out a summary of our meeting which will also mention it, but figured that I'd let you guys know sooner rather than later :-) Cheers, -g -- Michael Wechner Wyona Inc. - Open Source Cont

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-23 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 08:28, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:54:55PM +0200, thorsten wrote: > > Greg Stein wrote: ... > > In any case, the Board passed the resolution :-) > > I'll be sending out a summary of our meeting which will also mention it, > but figured that I'd let you guy

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:54:55PM +0200, thorsten wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > >I've put this onto the agenda. > > > >One comment though: where the heck did the text for the resolution come > >from? This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that I've > >seen which does NOT put "Apache

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Scherler, Thorsten
Rolf Kulemann wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 17:32, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Greg Stein wrote: where the heck did the text for the resolution come from? This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that I've seen which does NOT put "Apache" into the name of the PMC. I'm wondering how the hec

RE: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 17:32, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > > > where the heck did the text for the resolution come from? > > This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that > > I've seen which does NOT put "Apache" into the name of the > > PMC. I'm wondering how the heck

RE: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Greg Stein wrote: > where the heck did the text for the resolution come from? > This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that > I've seen which does NOT put "Apache" into the name of the > PMC. I'm wondering how the heck that got started. Every > project needs to be named using the

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 12:54, thorsten wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > > I've put this onto the agenda. > > > > One comment though: where the heck did the text for the resolution come > > from? This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that I've > > seen which does NOT put "Apache" into t

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread thorsten
but dunnow where there have it from. Sorry. spot thorsten Cheers, -g On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 07:28:54PM +0200, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Dear Incubator, dear Board, The Lenya commiters, the Incubator PMC and our mentors (Stefano, Nicola) have voted unanimously to request for graduation of the L

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:03, Greg Stein wrote: > I've put this onto the agenda. > > One comment though: where the heck did the text for the resolution come > from? This is like the third or fourth TLP resolution lately that I've > seen which does NOT put "Apache" into the name of the PMC. I'm wond

Re: Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-09-22 Thread Greg Stein
or J. Rothfuss wrote: > Dear Incubator, dear Board, > > The Lenya commiters, the Incubator PMC and our mentors (Stefano, Nicola) > have voted unanimously to request for graduation of the Lenya project to > become a Apache Top Level project. > > Summary thread is here: > &g

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Michael Wechner wrote: Scherler, Thorsten wrote: ... Forrest is the classical documentation framework that is missing CMS components. Lenya could profit from integrating forrest into itself to the extense that both projects become one! I don't think this makes sense, because Lenya is not just abo

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 02:51, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Steven Noels wrote: > > >> Stefano and Steven, would you like to accompany the Lenya project > >> further on as PMC members? I guess we really could need your help and > >> experience beside the fact that the board "is likely to recognize". >

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Steven Noels wrote: Stefano and Steven, would you like to accompany the Lenya project further on as PMC members? I guess we really could need your help and experience beside the fact that the board "is likely to recognize". I'm willing to sit on the PMC if that helps you guys - perhaps in a "react

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Michael Wechner
Scherler, Thorsten wrote: I see an overlap between Forrest and Lenya. yes, there is overlap: Forrest could be considered a publication/publet, which could be based on Lenya for instance Forrest is the classical documentation framework that is missing CMS components. Lenya could profit from inte

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Michael Wechner
Rolf Kulemann wrote: I think Lenya has been making immense progress on the community aspects. I'm still a bit doubtful whether "functional" apps are suited for ASF adoption (I have a personal preference towards spec implementations, libraries and frameworks), but I guess only Darwin has the

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Steven Noels
On 20 Sep 2004, at 12:29, Rolf Kulemann wrote: I think Lenya has been making immense progress on the community aspects. I'm still a bit doubtful whether "functional" apps are suited for ASF adoption (I have a personal preference towards spec implementations, libraries and frameworks), but I guess o

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 10:06, Steven Noels wrote: > On 20 Sep 2004, at 08:57, Rolf Kulemann wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 18:17, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > ... > >> > >> My suggestion to you, and to any project that wants to graduate to TLP > >> status, is that you ask your Mentors or other es

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 10:06, Steven Noels wrote: > On 20 Sep 2004, at 08:57, Rolf Kulemann wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 18:17, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > ... > >> > >> My suggestion to you, and to any project that wants to graduate to TLP > >> status, is that you ask your Mentors or other es

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-20 Thread Steven Noels
On 20 Sep 2004, at 08:57, Rolf Kulemann wrote: On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 18:17, Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... My suggestion to you, and to any project that wants to graduate to TLP status, is that you ask your Mentors or other established ASF Members who have participated actively during Incubation to pa

RE: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-19 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 18:17, Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... > > My suggestion to you, and to any project that wants to graduate to TLP > status, is that you ask your Mentors or other established ASF Members who > have participated actively during Incubation to participate on the initial > PMC. That p

RE: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-19 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Gregor, The Board meeting is coming up this week. I have reminded that the Lenya request is pending. One thing that I notice, looking at the proposed Lenya PMC, is the lack of names that the Board is likely to recognize. This can be a concern because PMCs are part of the legal fabric of the Fou

Request for graduation and Lenya TLP

2004-08-17 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Dear Incubator, dear Board, The Lenya commiters, the Incubator PMC and our mentors (Stefano, Nicola) have voted unanimously to request for graduation of the Lenya project to become a Apache Top Level project. Summary thread is here: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&by=th

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-22 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Berin Lautenbach writes: > > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 01:15, Malte S. Stretz wrote: > > >> Where do I find that module? At least via anoncvs I can't find it and > >> (I think) I have only SVN and no CVS access. > > > > Crap. Ok, just for the record, t

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 22 jan 2004, à 00:34 Europe/Zurich, Erik Abele a écrit : ...Indeed and if someone is really interested in meeting other German/Austrian/Swiss/etc. ASF fellows, he/she should have a look at /docs/de-meeting in the committers CVS module. (only 2003 stuff there right now but this will ch

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Berin Lautenbach
> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 01:15, Malte S. Stretz wrote: >> Where do I find that module? At least via anoncvs I can't find it and >> (I think) I have only SVN and no CVS access. > > Crap. Ok, just for the record, the SA guys have been ginea pigs with > respect to SVN only accounts. It looks like i

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Erik Abele
On 22.01.2004, at 01:23, Sander Striker wrote: On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 01:15, Malte S. Stretz wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:34 CET Erik Abele wrote: Indeed and if someone is really interested in meeting other German/Austrian/Swiss/etc. ASF fellows, he/she should have a look at /docs/de-meeti

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Sander Striker
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 01:15, Malte S. Stretz wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:34 CET Erik Abele wrote: > > Indeed and if someone is really interested in meeting other > > German/Austrian/Swiss/etc. ASF fellows, he/she should have a look at > > /docs/de-meeting in the committers CVS module. (

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:34 CET Erik Abele wrote: > Indeed and if someone is really interested in meeting other > German/Austrian/Swiss/etc. ASF fellows, he/she should have a look at > /docs/de-meeting in the committers CVS module. (only 2003 stuff there > right now but this will change...)

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Erik Abele
On 21.01.2004, at 23:13, Malte S. Stretz wrote: ... And maybe there will be a chance to meet and exchange keys with other Apache-related developers at this year's CeBIT. Ok, I don't think you'll want to wait till then but it might be a chance for others, too :) Indeed and if someone is really inte

crosssigned keys as graduation requirement (Re: Request for graduation)

2004-01-21 Thread Leo Simons
robert burrell donkin wrote: IIRC at the last count i was the biggest offender at apache for this (in terms of isolated releases: releases that i've signed with a signature that is isolated). I thought I was; damn :D. I suggest we don't make this an absolute requirement of graduation. While it'

RE: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
robert burrell donkin wrote: > Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > * The developers PGP keys aren't part of any web of trust. Mainly an > > issue of physical separation between the developers. > interesting requirement, this one. > IIRC the consensus is that only face-to-face meetings are really the > o

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Wednesday 21 January 2004 22:58 CET Erik Abele wrote: > On 21.01.2004, at 11:41, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > * The developers PGP keys aren't part of any web of trust. Mainly an > > issue of physical separation between the developers. > > Jochen, where are you located? A whois lookup of ispsoft

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Erik Abele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.01.2004, at 11:41, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * The developers PGP keys aren't part of any web of trust. Mainly an issue of physical separation between the developers. Jochen, where are you located? A whois lookup of ispsoft.de revealed Eningen ne

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 21 Jan 2004, at 10:41, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * The developers PGP keys aren't part of any web of trust. Mainly an issue of physical separation between the developers. interesting requirement, this one. IIRC at the last count i was the biggest offender at apache for this (in terms of isol

RE: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> with the approval of the other committers and our mentor (Dims), I > am asking for graduation of the JaxMe project to ws.apache.org. Reviewing the JaxMe status, the only real concern that I would have is the size of the Community. You appear to have exactly 3 Committers, which is a bare minimum

Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, with the approval of the other committers and our mentor (Dims), I am asking for graduation of the JaxMe project to ws.apache.org. Below you'll find: * A list of open issues. We consider them as sufficiently unimportant for graduation. * A history of what we did, as relevant for the incub