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2006-06-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:52 AM, Hani Suleiman wrote: If Apache people feel that my technical abilities are not relevant, and that what should matter in whether I am allowed in as a cxfire committer is how willing I am to tow the party line, then I shouldn't be on that list. Apache would be

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2006-06-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
Hani writes: I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name being on the initial committer list. I am perplexed that you feel that a dislike of an Apache project merits a membership rejection though. and I am not aware of any Apache membership requirements that stat

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2006-06-23 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Hani Suleiman wrote: I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name being on the initial committer list. I'm astonished that you didn't expect it. Apache is a social organization that depends on trust, and one of the easiest ways to lose

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2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Craig McClanahan wrote: > On 6/22/06, Hani Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name >> being on the initial committer list. > > > PS: Hani, will you *please* someday, just once, spell my name correctly so > that Google can f

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2006-06-23 Thread Hani Suleiman
Hi Leo, On Jun 23, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Leo Simons wrote: "The Apache projects are characterized by a collaborative, consensus based development process, an open and pragmatic software license, and a desire to create high quality software that leads the way in its field. We consider ourselves

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2006-06-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
You clearly have no clue! Just as an example. - Daniel Kulp from IONA is a Tuscany Committer. Which is a WS PMC sponsored Incubator project - Daniel Diephouse from Envoi working on XFire is a WS Committer as he earned karma on the XmlSchema project. FWW, Thanks for letting people see your true

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2006-06-23 Thread Leo Simons
Hani, (I'm a big BileBlog fan. I'm ever so upset that Geir always gets named when it comes to Harmony while I and more importantly quite a few others also pour lots of effort in too. I did a lightning talk at ApacheCon Las Vegas titled "The ASF sucks". I had 5 minutes, I could've gone on for 30.

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2006-06-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 05:52 +0100, Hani Suleiman wrote: > It is interesting to note that all the people who have objected are > those who feel personally offended by some of my writing > (specifically, the tomcat and axis2 rants...ironically my tomcat I was never personally offended by your r

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2006-06-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Hani Suleiman wrote: I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name being on the initial committer list. [...] I'm sorry that you can't take a little criticism, and while I will happily admit that yes, I did insult you in ways that you probably didn't quite expect, I ful

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2006-06-22 Thread Ian Holsman
Hani. I haven't read your bileblog, but this email really shows a bad attitude. I personally don't care how good your code is. in my past experience your code isn't worth the pain the attitude is going to cause. Technical merit is only aspect of apache, it's about the community. and fla

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2006-06-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Craig McClanahan wrote: > PS: Hani, will you *please* someday, just once, spell my name correctly so > that Google can find your pearls of wisdom about me? :-) :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional co

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2006-06-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hani Suleiman wrote: > Just to set expectations, I will not stop saying things like 'Apache > sucks', because I still do think that many of the processes and members > have some terrible flaws. I do not think, that I'm gonna like Hani (one should not mismatch "telling the truth" and impoliteness,

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2006-06-22 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 6/22/06, Hani Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name being on the initial committer list. FWIW, I've been the target of more than a few BileBlog comments ... but that has nothing to do with whether I think Hani would be a go