RE: Federations [was: Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper]

> -Original Message- > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree on the federation idea, which Berin adopted for the XML TLP, but > please note that the XML Federation has no impact on TLP issues for the > Board. The federation idea is about fostering tighter collaboratio

Re: Federations [was: Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper]

On Aug 10, 2004, at 1:15 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: TLP reporting is a corporate structure issue, whereas federation is about sharing resources (e.g., web-site and mail domain) and community building. Exactly! -Brian - To uns

RE: Federations [was: Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper]

Brian McCallister wrote: > J Aaron Farr wrote: > > We're seeing a general explosion of new TLP's in Apache or subprojects > > graduating to TLP level. IMHO at some point we're going to reach a > > critical mass where it will no longer be very feasible for the Board > > to directly handle so many TL

Federations [was: Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper Since there does seem to be interest in reviewing a proposal from iBATIS, I've setup a draft in the Incubator wiki. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IbatisPro

RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

> -Original Message- > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper > > Since there does seem to be interest in reviewing a proposal from iBATIS, > I

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

To answer Clinton's question - I have very little knowledge or interest in either OJB or Torque. IMO, having any sort of oversight of those projects would be pointless. >From what I have seen of them, they both take very different philisophical approaches to interacting with data than iBATIS. Pers

RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

Since there does seem to be interest in reviewing a proposal from iBATIS, I've setup a draft in the Incubator wiki. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IbatisProposal Based on the discussion here, I've included a section on whether to apply as TLP or subproject. The iBATIS scope is a

RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

Original Message- > From: Clinton Begin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper > > > >> I don't believe anyone has a strong inclination one way or the other.

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

>> I don't believe anyone has a strong inclination one way or the other. I'll jump off the fence into a yard. :-) I'd prefer to see iBATIS as a TPL for the reasons Ted has laid out. I don't think joining the DB project would benefit either team. >> The key question would be whether members of t

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Ted Husted wrote: if [...] overseeing a DB product with non-Java implementations is not an issue There is nothing Java specific about the Apache DB charter, indeed the DB proposal specicially calls out a language-agnostic approach.

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 10:09:31 -0400, Brian McCallister wrote: > > I cannot speak for the whole DB PMC, but I am pretty confident that > the project would be quite happy to provide a hat peg and help as > needed =) I'd love to see iBATIS join the DB project, and this > seems the natural home for it,

[OT] Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

Sorry for the double post, guess moderator let posting from my unsubbed account through! -Brian On Aug 9, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Brian McCallister wrote: +1 for this incubation, either joining db or as its own TLP wearing my DB PMC hat =) On Aug 9, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Ted Husted wrote: It's true that

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

+1 for this incubation, either joining db or as its own TLP wearing my DB PMC hat =) On Aug 9, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Ted Husted wrote: It's true that we are all database/data persistence technologies, but, in my experience, there is much more to an Apache product than technology. My own concern as

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

+1 for this incubation, either joining db or as its own TLP wearing my DB PMC hat =) On Aug 9, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Ted Husted wrote: It's true that we are all database/data persistence technologies, but, in my experience, there is much more to an Apache product than technology. My own concern as

RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:15:22 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > And you might want to talk with our DB project and see what interest also comes from >there. It's true that we are all database/data persistence technologies, but, in my experience, there is much more to an Apache product than technolo

Re: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

Hi Noel, Thanks for your response. For those who may not be familiar with iBATIS, it is a persistence tool. More specifically, it is a Data Mapper (PoEAA, Fowler). iBATIS is not an Object Relational Mapper, however many people find it does a better job of isolating the object model from the dat

RE: Incubation of iBATIS Data Mapper

Clinton, I see that you have Ted Husted and Harish Krishnaswamy backing your Incubation, as well as other enthusiastic people. I see that our Jakarta Commons Mapper project(http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/mapper/) has support for iBatis as well as other data mappers. And you might want