Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Correct.  99% of the time the private list is > used for voting in new committers/PPMC members. +1 (Some established projects elect committers on public lists but this requires high levels of trust and isn't recommended) > The dev list is

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-15 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/15/2011 9:58 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Past the 72 hour notation below but I didn't see a final tally. Then you missed the note. [Hint: search for the subject RESULT] --- Begin Message --- On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Binding votes are ones that ar

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-15 Thread Matt Hogstrom
OfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, > I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache > Incubator project. > > At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a > link to the document in the wiki: >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-14 Thread Samuel Rojas
+1 El jun 13, 2011 2:28 p.m., "JLCastle" escribió: > I see this is too late to count but I offer my thoughts anyway. > It was already late before it lurked in an outbox for a while. > > [-1] (non-binding) Vote to reject the OpenOffice.org PROPOSAL > > I reject the p

Infrastructure and Data for... End-Users of OpenOffice.org

2011-06-13 Thread Christoph Noack
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Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
27 PM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org next steps > > Presumably though the private list is an exception-handling venue and we > should just get started on ooo-...@incubator.apache.org for now? Or am I > missing key insights here? > > S. > -

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Simon Phipps
Presumably though the private list is an exception-handling venue and we should just get started on ooo-...@incubator.apache.org for now? Or am I missing key insights here? S.

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: > Op 13-6-2011 22:14, Daniel Shahaf schreef: >> >> Sam Ruby wrote on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48:37 -0400: >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Stein  wrote: On Jun 13, 2011 11:31 AM, "Joe Schaefer"  wrote: > > The pri

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 13-6-2011 22:14, Daniel Shahaf schreef: Sam Ruby wrote on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48:37 -0400: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Jun 13, 2011 11:31 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already submitted an ICLA and

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Sam Ruby wrote on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48:37 -0400: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2011 11:31 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: > >> > >> > >> The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already > >> submitted an ICLA and account request id to S

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Jun 13, 2011 11:31 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: >> >> >> The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already >> submitted an ICLA and account request id to Sam. > > To clarify: some people already have IDs, such as myself. I

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
Send a message to ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org and reply to the automated response. That will subscribe you to the dev list, which is where the bulk of the conversations relating to Apache OpenOffice.org belong. If you wish to subscribe to the other lists, simply substitute the name

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 13.06.11 21:07, schrieb Andy Brown: Joe Schaefer wrote: Lists are now available: ooo-{dev,commits,issues,notifications,private}@incubator.apache.org The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already submitted an ICLA and account request id to Sam. Hi Joe, For us ne

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Andy Brown
Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Joe Schaefer wrote: Lists are now available: ooo-{dev,commits,issues,notifications,private}@incubator.apache.org The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already submitted an ICLA and account

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > Joe Schaefer wrote: >> >> Lists are now available: >> >> ooo-{dev,commits,issues,notifications,private}@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already >> submitted an ICLA and account reques

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Andy Brown
Joe Schaefer wrote: Lists are now available: ooo-{dev,commits,issues,notifications,private}@incubator.apache.org The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already submitted an ICLA and account request id to Sam. Hi Joe, For us new to Apache, where/how do we subscribe?

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread JLCastle
I see this is too late to count but I offer my thoughts anyway. It was already late before it lurked in an outbox for a while. [-1] (non-binding) Vote to reject the OpenOffice.org PROPOSAL I reject the proposal not the community or the project. I am still a bit of an open source newb and

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Jun 13, 2011 11:31 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: > > Lists are now available: > > ooo-{dev,commits,issues,notifications,private}@incubator.apache.org Thanks, Joe! Subscribed. > > > The private list should only be subscribed to by folks who have already > submitted an ICLA and account request id t

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
eneral@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 2:11:15 PM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org next steps > > I'll be glad to moderate too. > > Danese > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > If I can get a few volunteer list moderators I&#

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Danese Cooper
neral@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 1:07:46 PM > > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org next steps > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Sam Ruby > wrote: > > > > > > --- Have IDs: > > > > > > damjan Damjan Jovanovic >

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > If I can get a few volunteer list moderators I'll go ahead > and create the mailing lists. I'll be glad to moderate. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr..

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
If I can get a few volunteer list moderators I'll go ahead and create the mailing lists. - Original Message > From: Sam Ruby > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 1:07:46 PM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org next steps > > On Mon, Jun 13

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Andy Brown
Christian Grobmeier wrote: Joanmarie Diggs Peter Korn Jean Hollis Weber What is required to get these approved? http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+new+committer The Podling PMC need to vote these people in. If these people are already known to the current team, this sh

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Andy Brown wrote: >> Andrew Brown > > My name seems to be missing.  I forward a copy of the acceptance email. The email addresses didn't match. I'll send you a separate email (using the email address provided on the ICLA) on the process for requesting an id. - S

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> Joanmarie Diggs >> Peter Korn >> Jean Hollis Weber > > What is required to get these approved? http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+new+committer The Podling PMC need to vote these people in. If these people are already known to the current team, this should be straightfor

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Sam, Sam Ruby wrote: I've divided up the list of proposed committers into four categories, based on their current status. --- Have IDs: damjan Damjan Jovanovic florentFlorent André grobmeier Christian Grobmeier gstein Greg Stein jimJim Jagielski lrosen Lawrence Rose

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > --- Have IDs: > > damjan     Damjan Jovanovic > florent    Florent André > grobmeier  Christian Grobmeier > gstein     Greg Stein > jim        Jim Jagielski > lrosen     Lawrence Rosen > rdonkin    Robert Burrell Donkin > wave       David Fishe

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >> A (v)olunteer on the committer roster > > me too, if allowed Oversight on my part. One that has no bearing on the process. Next step for you is to send in an ICLA. http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt > M. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
> A (v)olunteer on the committer roster me too, if allowed M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
I've divided up the list of proposed committers into four categories, based on their current status. --- Have IDs: damjan Damjan Jovanovic florentFlorent André grobmeier Christian Grobmeier gstein Greg Stein jimJim Jagielski lrosen Lawrence Rosen rdonkinRobert Burrell

Re: [DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
: Leo Simons > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 12:31:00 PM > Subject: [DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: > [VOTE] >Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation) > > Hey hey, > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schae

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/13/2011 11:31 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phillip Rhodes >> >> Mondo rad. But one quick question what does the (v) mean, listed after >> some of the names in the voter list? > > I meant to either explain that or remove it. Oh well. :-) > > That was my own p

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> > >> > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum >> > is 3 binding +1 yes votes.  Once quorum is met,

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/13/2011 11:26 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>> >>> Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members. Quorum >>> is 3 binding +1 yes votes. Once quorum is met, if more +1 vot

[DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > +1 binding.  Given the sheer number of committers involved in this podling > there will be some work to do trying to gel a coherent development community > out of the group.  While I am optimistic, I am reminded of Roy's cautions > a

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members. Quorum > > is 3 binding +1 yes votes. Once quorum is met, if more +1 votes are > > received than -1, the vote carries. Ot

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Congratulations to all who want this to happen! Now lets do our best to make it a success. For all the new committers: Welcome to the ASF. I wish a good time here with lots of fun. Cheers, Christian On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wr

[VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum > is 3 binding +1 yes votes.  Once quorum is met, if more +1 votes are > received than -1, the vote carries.  Otherwise, the vote fails. Vote started on Friday, June 10th at

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Brett Porter
taken into consideration by the proposers. I wish them all the best of luck! Cheers, Brett On 11/06/2011, at 2:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject Open

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Kew
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:02:44 -0400 Sam Ruby wrote: -1 (non-binding) I've agonised long and hard about this. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Apache take on such a great trophy project? And of course we'll be best-of-friends with TDF despite perhaps a few vocal individuals? And in the worst cas

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Sam Ruby wrote (10-06-11 18:02) Please cast your votes: a. - : because of the difficulties ahead, as mentioned on this list, for the OpenOffice.org product in the ASF (that may not be relevant for the AFS, but IMO are for OpenOffice.org), and since TDF for me is a more logical choice

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Dieter Loeschky
+1 (non-binding) Regards, Dieter Am 10.06.11 18:02, schrieb Sam Ruby: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Tim Williams
embarrassing chapter. --tim On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] > > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffi

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
+1 (non-binding) Greetings Raphael Am 10.06.11 18:02, schrieb Sam Ruby: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Steve Loughran
On 10/06/11 17:02, Sam Ruby wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache Incubator project. At the end of

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Malte Timmermann
nding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: gene

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
e winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. > > At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal.  Here is a > link to the document in the wiki: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficePr

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) -Bertrand, who agrees with Dirk. On Sunday, June 12, 2011, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > *: who is in a - what the hack mood - and thinks that  get this code base in > a state where people can start hacking is better than let it b

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/12/2011 4:03 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Not that much; > * Same players. > * Same importance. Really? I'm pretty certain there is < 0.05% overlap between the Office Suite and Java Runtime mechanics of either Sun or IBM. They probably never even shared so much as a VP, although I could

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread dsh
t;>> As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding >>> down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an >>> Apache Incubator project. >>> >>> At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache Incubator project. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
[DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache Incubator project. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I would like to see a future for OOo and i hope that this can be a new start. A few words to myself because i wasn't really visible here on the list so far. My name is Juergen Schmidt (jsc) and I have worked on the project since

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:12 PM, IngridvdM wrote: > [x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) > > I would like to humbly beg you people from Apache for giving a chance to > those who are willing to join you. I am

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Shane Curcuru
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 12, 2011, at 3:01 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: >> It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of >> being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum >> openness can walk the path between corporate, startup

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > Since Oracle was willing to transfer the OOo source code copyrights to > the ASF, the ASF could have accepted those copyrights, > extract the related code for the ODF reference implementation, and > re-release the source code with a copyle

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
+1 (non-binding) Regards, Mathias On 10.06.2011 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
June 12, 2011 11:21:26 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenO

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jomar Silva
On 2011/5/12 9:5 Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >Nearly the whole and very active community in Brasil switched to LO. A >lot of very brilliant and active members of the german community are >working now at LO, doing a very good job. In General, the Brazilian users keeps using BrOffice. BrOffice has ch

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Marcus
+1 non-bindung > From Sam Ruby > Subject[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > Date Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:02:44 GMT > > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. +1 (non-binding)

[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Santiago Gala
+1 (not binding) Trying to establish a layer of common infrastructure for Open Document Format processors looks a worthy attempt, even with all the warnings and caveats. I was Incubator PMC member till recently, and I could have re-joined to vote. It looks like cheating, though. Regards Santiago

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 10 June 2011 17:02, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. > +1 (non-binding) Andrew. -- asav...@apach

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
+1 (non-binding) Regards, Mathias On 10.06.2011 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 [binding] Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
> [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation +/- 0 (non binding) I am still going back and forth, on whether or not. against: I understand very well most of the arguments from An

[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) Dw*. *: who is in a - what the hack mood - and thinks that get this code base in a state where people can start hacking is better than let it bitrot any further. And fully trust the incubator process to attic the code & jettison

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Michael McCandless
+1 Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >  [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) > > Comment: While I favor focusing on the reference implementation for ODF, as > my previous comments reflec

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: >> It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of >> being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum >> openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs. > > You think Apache Harmony is a com

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: > It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of > being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum > openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs. You think Apache Harmony is a comparable

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] > > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, > I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenO

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I like the Apache license and I think having a really free alternative is good for everyone, as much as clang vs gcc and linux vs FreeBSD. Apache is also a good fit for OO technologically and I think the incubation process will end up

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Henri Yandell
caring away the big potential contributors with undesirable licensing. Hen On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] > > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread IngridvdM
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I would like to humbly beg you people from Apache for giving a chance to those who are willing to join you. I am deeply sorry that we are bringing a big political dispute with us. My hope is that the community that was so heavily

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Richard Hirsch
+1 (binding) Dick On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM, wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > - Don Harbison > > Sam Ruby wrote on 06/10/2011 12:02:44 PM: > >> >> Please cast your votes: >> >> [ X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation >> [  ] +0 Ind

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread donald_harbison
+1 (non-binding) - Don Harbison Sam Ruby wrote on 06/10/2011 12:02:44 PM: > > Please cast your votes: > > [ X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation > > This vote will

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Eric Charles
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation Eric On 10/06/11 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org

RE: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't understand the assertions here. It may not matter in the larger scheme of things, but I didn't want some of the assumptions here to go unquestioned. 1. It is certainly the case that the proposal comprehends sustaining OpenOffice.org and continuing it as an Apache pro

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Malte Timmermann
+1 (non-binding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > >> The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for >> the ODF format >> was not discussed. > > Yes it was. In f

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Malte Timmermann
+1 (non-binding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Wilson
+1 (non-binding) /-/-/-/-/-/ Scott Wilson - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christoph Jopp
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) At first I thought beeing on the committers list would imply my approval of the proposal. But now I'd like to give the reasons for my vote as so many others did: (All just my point of view as an suburban inhabitant of the &quo

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Sam, On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding). Good luck! C

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 (binding) I have similar concerns as Niclas and a few other folks here, and estimate the risk of failure of this very visible podling as too high. I wasn't sure about my vote till the last moment. But in the current situation I don't see an alternative to ASF taking it and trying to do our b

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, I've been thinking for quite a while whether I should raise my voice and vote or not. I've made my standpoint rather clear the last days, so I wanted to abstain from voting, as I've shown all the facts already. However, having been in involved with the OpenOffice.org pr

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Steve Lee
+1 (non-binding) -- Steve Lee Full Measure - open source accessibility - http://fullmeasure.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
-1 (non-binding) As stated elsewhere [1], this incubator, combined with the disruption and delay it's causing to the OOo ecosystem, does not add enough unique value to what we already have a TDF to justify the effort. (I'm referring to the existing proposal's mission statement [2], not to the (qu

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis > wrote: > > > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > > the ODF format > > was not discussed. > > Yes it wa

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Upayavira
As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. > > At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here > is a link

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Nóirín Plunkett
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) N - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Struberg
Yes, and I also like to correct my previous statement: I actually meant that ALL votes are welcome (not only +1)! LieGrue, strub --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > From: Daniel Shahaf > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > To: general@incubator.a

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation -1. I think by accepting this ASF is risking quite a lot of flak and reputational damage

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread André Schnabel
-1 (non-binding) Within the discussion several reasons that might support a -1 vote were named, many have been addressed or may be addresed by the podling. I still feel obligated to vote -1 because (even if the podling advances to a Apache TLP) this will be the end of "OpenOffice.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 11, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Christian Grobmeier > > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > the ODF format > was not discussed. This would probably make the Free Software > Foundation (FSF) happy. > > T

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>> Should they compound it with their own rudeness? >> >> It is how democracy usually works. You have X pro, Y contra, >> afterwards you have a decision. Usually some complain about it >> afterwards. >> > > The case here is that the proposed Apache Open

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > Now that you mention it; the voting started at time (7.02pm local time). > Benson Margulies voted at 7.03pm. > You voted at 7.05pm. > > Is the voting start time pre-announced? The voting time was pre-announced on this very list: http:/

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > the ODF format > was not discussed. Yes it was. In fact it was the suggestion that OO.o should be refactored so that

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
incompatibilities with LibreOffice. Cheers, Andreas --- > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation - To unsubscribe, e-mail

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