Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-12-03 Thread Jun Liu
Hi, All the incubator releases of Dubbo project have been removed. Kind Regards, Jun > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > It looks like you have some old incubator releases here: > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/ > &g

Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-22 Thread Tommaso Teofili
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 00:15, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I have a few questions: > > 1. are projects required to delete those old incubating release because > the > > projects are now TLPs ? > > More encouraged than required I think. > ok, thx. > > > 2. in the case of Joshua, even it's b

Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-21 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I have a few questions: > 1. are projects required to delete those old incubating release because the > projects are now TLPs ? More encouraged than required I think. > 2. in the case of Joshua, even it's been a while since the project moved > outside of Incubator, that's still the latest

Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-21 Thread Tommaso Teofili
should we remove it anyway ? Thanks and regards, Tommaso On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 at 11:34, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 23:49 Justin Mclean, > wrote: > > > It looks like you have some old incubator releases here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incub

Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-19 Thread Rodric Rabbah
Thanks Justin. We should cut new releases of the main repo and runtimes. I've started a discussion thread for the main repo. On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 3:57 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like you have some old incubator releases here: > https://dist.apache.org/r

Re: Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-17 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 23:49 Justin Mclean, wrote: > It looks like you have some old incubator releases here: > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/ > > We’re cleaning up the release area and it would be great if you can remove > these old releases. > If you

Removal of old incubator releases

2019-11-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, It looks like you have some old incubator releases here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/ We’re cleaning up the release area and it would be great if you can remove these old releases. If for some reason you need to link to an old release you can do so with a link to

Re: Questions on incubator releases

2017-05-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Yes, though typically the staged maven repo is reviewed as a part of the > release. +1 best to review and vote on both at once >> (q2) If the answer of q1 is yes, do we need to prepare different >> LICENSE and NOTICE files for the binaries? IMO the answer is likely to be yes. In a lot o

Re: Questions on incubator releases

2017-05-17 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:14 PM Tsz Wo Sze wrote: > Hi, > > The release VOTE has been passed in both the Podling dev list [1] and > the Incubator's general list [2] for Apache Ratis. I also have copied > the RC to dist/release so that it is available at [3]. > > My questions are: > (q1) Our rele

Questions on incubator releases

2017-05-17 Thread Tsz Wo Sze
Hi, The release VOTE has been passed in both the Podling dev list [1] and the Incubator's general list [2] for Apache Ratis. I also have copied the RC to dist/release so that it is available at [3]. My questions are: (q1) Our release is a source release, could we distribute binaries through othe

Re: Advice for incubator releases and naming

2016-07-01 Thread Kathy Saunders
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > It's ok for a podling to change its name at any time during the > incubation process, but the earlier the better IMO, by far. If you > don't get a timely answer to PODLINGNAMESEARCH-105 I suggest starting > a vote here for renaming t

Re: Advice for incubator releases and naming

2016-06-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Kathy Saunders wrote: > ...I was looking at the incubator release pages, and realized that there is > nothing that states that the name must be approved prior to a release It's ok for a podling to change its name at any time during the incubation process,

Advice for incubator releases and naming

2016-06-29 Thread Kathy Saunders
I'm working on Apache Quarks and the community has been very active over the last few months. I was thinking about the right time to start a release; we are still working on the build and license issues, but should be able to start the process once that is done. I had thought we would want to wa

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 15:29:17 +: > On 27 February 2012 03:01, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > sebb wrote on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:17:15 +: > >> On 26 February 2012 18:39, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > >> > Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +: > >> >> 3/ > >> >> >

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-27 Thread sebb
On 27 February 2012 03:01, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > sebb wrote on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:17:15 +: >> On 26 February 2012 18:39, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> > Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +: >> >> 3/ >> >> >> >> [[ >> >> Often symbolic links are created from the root of

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:17:15 +: > On 26 February 2012 18:39, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +: > >> 3/ > >> > >> [[ > >> Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project > >> distribution directory to the latest ver

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread sebb
On 26 February 2012 18:39, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +: >> 3/ >> >> [[ >> Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project >> distribution directory to the latest version of each release. This >> allows scripts or users to easily l

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +: > 3/ > > [[ > Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project > distribution directory to the latest version of each release. This > allows scripts or users to easily locate the latest release. > ]] > > is at odds with > >

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 24/02/12 16:56, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Mark Struberg wrote on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:17:57 +: PS: txs to Daniel Shahaf for pointing me at the current docs I didn't :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incub

Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Mark Struberg wrote on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:17:57 +: > PS: txs to Daniel Shahaf for pointing me at the current docs > I didn't :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands

[ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi! I've lately seen many incubator projects which didn't copy their source and binary distribution packages to our official distribution area. For Top Level Projects this is http://www.apache.org/dist/ and pretty well known. For Incubator Projects the correct location is http://www.apache.

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 18:34, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > No committee can take action without a majority on that committee > approving the action.  The VP might take action by fiat (they are > given that authority) - I can't imagine that would ever happen > except in consultation with legal-private

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 10:26 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, sebb wrote: This specifically says that a majority is NOT required. This does seem odd. This does mean that a release (for example due to a security issue) cannot be held back by any entity or block of committers

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
No committee can take action without a majority on that committee approving the action. The VP might take action by fiat (they are given that authority) - I can't imagine that would ever happen except in consultation with legal-private@ for a legal issue raised on private@ that impeded that relea

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 16:26, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, sebb wrote: >> This specifically says that a majority is NOT required. >> This does seem odd. > > This does mean that a release (for example due to a security issue) > cannot be held back by any entity or block

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, sebb wrote: > This specifically says that a majority is NOT required. > This does seem odd. This does mean that a release (for example due to a security issue) cannot be held back by any entity or block of committers. Martijn

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 28 November 2011 19:22, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. > On Nov 28, 2011 7:01 PM, "Neha Narkhede" wrote: >> >> >> That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release >> was worth re-cutting. >> >> We have been assuming that i

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 November 2011 12:18, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> hopefully you will get the support you need on your dev list. However, >> please do not hesitate to come back to this list if you need clarity. It >> may take too many emails and you might

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Jun, hopefully you will get the support you need on your dev list. However, please do not hesitate to come back to this list if you need clarity. It may take too many emails and you might need a thick skin, but we will help in our strange way. Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Jun Rao
Thanks everyone for the feedback. This is very constructive and helpful. We will try to roll out a new RC accordingly. We are grateful for all the help that we got from Apache members and are proud to be part of Apache. Jun On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 20

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Chris Douglas
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, David Crossley wrote: > I cannot understand why people are confused on those points. Empathy is hard when you've forgotten what it was like to learn the topic. There is a lot of documentation, but it is not curated. To apprehend the topic, one has to read the foun

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 November 2011 00:12, David Crossley wrote: > When Apache Forrest became a TLP, just prior to the Incubator starting, > there were no mentors to tell me stuff. HeHe - and that's exactly where I learned it - although I was lucky enough to have mentors within the project. That's one reason why

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread David Crossley
Search for the two words: release veto A top hit is http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes It has been that way for a long time. It is the Release Manager who decides whether to halt a release. They are guided by +1/-1 votes. I cannot understand why people are confused on thos

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Chris Douglas
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:50 AM, sebb wrote: > In which case, I suggest you post a clean message requesting feedback, > as this thread does not appear to be the right place for this now. The link was to the last RC. -C - To unsu

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Suggestion: There are cases where the 'official word' is a full-ASF document which we don't lightly edit. Yet, we see some evidence that podlings have trouble reaching the right interpretation. We don't want to duplicate, but we could supplement. Specific proposal: I'm willing to try to write a

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread ant elder
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Jun Rao wrote: > Dear Apache members, > > Over the past 2 months, the Kafka Apache incubator project has been trying > to release its very first version in Apache. After 7 RCs, we are still not > done. Part of this is because most of us are new to the Apache releas

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 28, 2011 7:01 PM, "Neha Narkhede" wrote: > > >> That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release > was worth re-cutting. > > We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even > if it ge

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:56:59PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :) That would be sane, but that's not how I read this passage: http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes Votes on whether a package is ready to be re

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
>> That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release was worth re-cutting. We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even if it gets a single -1 vote. >> A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :) Although this seems reasonable, do people

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/27/2011 3:34 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: I think I've been leading a sheltered existence. In the TLPs of which I play a part, over the 5 years or so that I've been around, I've never seen a release proceed past a -1. Every single time, a -1 has led to recutting the release. That is becaus

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread sebb
On 28 November 2011 02:56, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> I think you missed a very important part of what I said, let me quote >> the para you refer to: > [snip] >> My point is we can't expect the mentors to type everything over and >> over again

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> From: Chris Douglas >> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer >> Cc: "kafka-...@incubator.apache.org" >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:01 PM >> Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases >> >> On Sun, Nov

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Chris Douglas
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I think you missed a very important part of what I said, let me quote > the para you refer to: [snip] > My point is we can't expect the mentors to type everything over and > over again for every podling, that's why we have docs. We can (and >

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 November 2011 02:01, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> I did not see anyone say RTFM, did you? > > That's how I read Ross's account of the Rave project (mentor pointed > to the docs, RM read them, monthly releases bloomed). I don't think > that w

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
ot; > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Joe Schaefer > wrote: >> I did not see anyone say RTFM, did you? > > That's how I read Ross's account of

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Chris Douglas
..@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:46 PM >> Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases >> >> Ross is 100% in identifying mentors as critical to a smooth release. >> More specifically, mentors familiar with what a

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 November 2011 00:46, Chris Douglas wrote: > I reject the RTFM > suggestion as trolling. I never aid RTFM. I said the documentation in conjunction with mentors guidance. I also said the documentation needs work and asked for specific pointers as to where. Furthermore I supported Joe's comm

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
with each other. Are you game? - Original Message - > From: Chris Douglas > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases > > Ro

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
OK, I'm sorry, but leviadocs??!! I'll buy you a beer for that AWESOME word :-) BTW, I agree with all of your points below, dude. In fact, to add to them, I would suggest my approach is simply what i learned from Justin, Jukka, Joe S. and others -- teach the project how to build community, to lea

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Chris Douglas
Ross is 100% in identifying mentors as critical to a smooth release. More specifically, mentors familiar with what a project is likely to face in an Incubator vote. I'm sorry to say that I was an AWOL mentor for the first 5 RCs. I still wouldn't have anticipated the objections from the IPMC that-

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Benson Margulies
I think I've been leading a sheltered existence. In the TLPs of which I play a part, over the 5 years or so that I've been around, I've never seen a release proceed past a -1. Every single time, a -1 has led to recutting the release. In some ways, I'd expect the incubator to be more conservative (

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> From: Robert Burrell Donkin >> Any legal issue serious enough to VETO a release would require code >> access to be blocked and all discussions taken private. Anything short >> of this isn't a VETO. > > I wouldn't go that far.  I mean if a

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
he.org" > Cc: Joe Schaefer ; "kafka-...@incubator.apache.org" > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases > > On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >>>> >>>&

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - > From: Robert Burrell Donkin > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: Joe Schaefer ; "kafka-...@incubator.apache.org" > > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releas

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >>> >>> NO. The only time someone can claim to hold a veto over a release vote is >>> when they are jibberjabbering about legal issues. NOTICE errors really >>> don't risk a lawsuit from anyone, so those -1's are NOT vetoes. >> >> If Jo

Re:concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Sorry screaming kids prevented me from reviewing properly. one sentence was made incomprehensible by autocorrect... Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 27, 2011 8:09 PM, "Ross Gardler" wrote: > > I sympathize with you're comments, however, I do want to point out

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Jun Rao wrote: > Dear Apache members, > > Over the past 2 months, the Kafka Apache incubator project has been trying > to release its very first version in Apache. After 7 RCs, we are still not > done. Part of this is because most of us are new to the Apache releas

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Benson Margulies
haefer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Jun Rao >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org >>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM >>> Subjec

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
-...@incubator.apache.org >>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM >>> Subject: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases >>> >>> Dear Apache members, >> >> [...] >> >>> 2. Different Apache members have different inte

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Jun Rao >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM >> Subject: concerns abo

Re:concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Ross Gardler
I sympathize with you're comments, however, I do want to point out that the problems are more to do with the Project committers and mentors than the process (although documentation can always be improved). As evidence I submit the Apache Rave poddling. This project made its first release within a

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Jun Rao >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM >> Subject: concerns abo

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - > From: Jun Rao > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM > Subject: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases > > Dear Apache members, [...] > 2.

concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-27 Thread Jun Rao
Dear Apache members, Over the past 2 months, the Kafka Apache incubator project has been trying to release its very first version in Apache. After 7 RCs, we are still not done. Part of this is because most of us are new to the Apache release process and are learning things along the way. However,

Re: Question on tlps using incubator releases

2010-03-24 Thread Patrick Hunt
Doug/Kevan, thanks for the information, appreciated. Have you considered adding this to the incubator FAQ? Perhaps it's there somewhere, but I couldn't find any detail on this one way or the other. Regards, Patrick Patrick Hunt wrote: Are there any issues with Apache tlps using

Re: Question on tlps using incubator releases

2010-03-23 Thread Kevan Miller
On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > Patrick Hunt wrote: >> Are there any issues with Apache tlps using incubator releases? I've heard, >> but cannot find any official documentation, that tlps should not. Is this >> really the case? Are there any rules/g

Re: Question on tlps using incubator releases

2010-03-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Patrick Hunt wrote: Are there any issues with Apache tlps using incubator releases? I've heard, but cannot find any official documentation, that tlps should not. Is this really the case? Are there any rules/guidelines for this? I don't think this is a problem. One project can ev

Question on tlps using incubator releases

2010-03-21 Thread Patrick Hunt
Are there any issues with Apache tlps using incubator releases? I've heard, but cannot find any official documentation, that tlps should not. Is this really the case? Are there any rules/guidelines for this? Thanks, Pa

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
>>>the draconian release process. ;-) Actually it is quite true. Last time I released OpenWebBeans, it took nearly 1 month :) Besides, it is also very helpful to understand Apache way release procedures. --Gurkan 2009/11/16 Jukka Zitting > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jim Jagielski

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Ironically, when the Incubator first formed, podlings could NOT do a release >> and many yelled about it. > > Yes, the originally reason behind it, iirc, was so podlings had a reason

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > >>> IIRC, Martijn has offered a proper legal review in the place of a > "release". >>> This sounded pretty reasonable to me. I would agree to that. > >> Yup. I've already stated that I have no problems with running RAT an

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> IMHO a podling should know how to cut an ASF release >> the easiest way to demonstrate this knowledge is to cut a release >> but it's not the only way. > > I don't have an argument with any of those three p

RE: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > IMHO a podling should know how to cut an ASF release > the easiest way to demonstrate this knowledge is to cut a release > but it's not the only way. I don't have an argument with any of those three points. I also suggest that there is a difference between preparin

Re: Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-13 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > >> > IIRC, Martijn has offered a proper legal review in the place of a > "release". >> > This sounded pretty reasonable to me. I would agree to that. > >> Yup. I've already stated that I have no problems with running RAT

Incubator Releases: mandatory or optional? Purpose?

2009-11-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Greg Stein wrote: > > IIRC, Martijn has offered a proper legal review in the place of a "release". > > This sounded pretty reasonable to me. I would agree to that. > Yup. I've already stated that I have no problems with running RAT and > working through those issues. Might have been hard to see i

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread sebb
anagement of > >> >> releases within each podling distribution directory is delegated to > >> >> the appropriate podling. > >> >> > >> >> Release artifacts can be uploaded into the podling distribution > >> >> direct

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Francis De Brabandere
ctory using scp. It is best to scp into the home directory and >>  >> then copy into position from there. >>  >> ==== >>  >> >>  >> The first paragraphs shows the location of the dist directory on p.a.o >>  >> >>  >> Martijn &g

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread sebb
ectory and > >> then copy into position from there. > >> > >> > >> The first paragraphs shows the location of the dist directory on p.a.o > >> > >> Martijn > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Francis De &

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Francis De Brabandere
>> then copy into position from there. >> >> >> The first paragraphs shows the location of the dist directory on p.a.o >> >> Martijn >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Francis De >> Brabandere wrote: >>> I suppose those should be

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Francis De Brabandere
t; Brabandere wrote: >> I suppose those should be available on the apache mirrors instead? How >> do we get them there? >> >> Francis >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, sebb wrote: >>> Just noticed that (some) Incubator releases are being ma

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Brabandere wrote: > I suppose those should be available on the apache mirrors instead? How > do we get them there? > > Francis > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, sebb wrote: >> Just noticed that (some) Incubator releases are being made from >> personal directories on peop

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, 2009/9/1 sebb : > Just noticed that (some) Incubator releases are being made from > personal directories on people (minotaur). > > That does not seem right to me, but perhaps I'm being too picky? It's not right. Both Infra policy [1] and Incubator policy [2] clearly say

Re: Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread Francis De Brabandere
I suppose those should be available on the apache mirrors instead? How do we get them there? Francis On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, sebb wrote: > Just noticed that (some) Incubator releases are being made from > personal directories on people (minotaur). > > That does not seem righ

Location of Incubator releases

2009-09-01 Thread sebb
Just noticed that (some) Incubator releases are being made from personal directories on people (minotaur). That does not seem right to me, but perhaps I'm being too picky? Example: http://incubator.apache.org/empire-db/downloads/download

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread Marnie McCormack
a, it is hard for a podling that comes from a > corporate environment (where the initial committer base is basically a > development team) to build a developer community without a release. > > Giving a podling a defined exit strategy (e.g. "Three incubator > releases") is nice, b

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
ial committer base is basically a development team) to build a developer community without a release. Giving a podling a defined exit strategy (e.g. "Three incubator releases") is nice, but it will be subverted by projects doing "rc, alpha and beta" releases ("Oh no, that

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How about a brand new idea? >> >> Lay down a Milestone-style chart of what it takes to operate as an ASF >> project. Demonstrate community of meritocracy, add committers or ppmc >> membe

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about a brand new idea? > > Lay down a Milestone-style chart of what it takes to operate as an ASF > project. Demonstrate community of meritocracy, add committers or ppmc > members based on contributions, comple

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Drop any pretense that the incubator has a say >> over the already-done code releases, and we can seriously start the real >> discussion, which would have been "motivating projects to gr

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-06 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Not accept podlings to release code. Possibly having the "final > act" of the podling to do a release, which effectuates the graduation. > > I am Ok with either of these, since I think that downstream users > ain't st

Re: Allow incubator releases?

2008-10-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
"William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> I will support the "initial intent" of no releases out of Incubator. > > Which would work, except for the fact that the incubator decided it's a good > idea to have podlings demonstrate how releases work in a meritocracy

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drop any pretense that the incubator has a say > over the already-done code releases, and we can seriously start the real > discussion, which would have been "motivating projects to graduate" if we > hadn't wasted s

Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Color me confused again, but during setup and formation of the Incubator, >> a podling had to graduate before doing a release. It was rather well >> established before this rule was modifi

Re: Incubator releases in central maven repo, was: [VOTE][policy] Release Distribution Directory

2007-10-09 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/9/07, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert, > > this is great, thanks. I don't want to muddy the > waters, but is it time to bring up the maven repo > question again as well? it would have been clearer to until the vote has concluded > If incuba

Incubator releases in central maven repo, was: [VOTE][policy] Release Distribution Directory

2007-10-09 Thread Thilo Goetz
Robert, this is great, thanks. I don't want to muddy the waters, but is it time to bring up the maven repo question again as well? If incubator releases *are* official releases, is there a reason not to upload maven artifacts to the central repository? --Thilo Robert Burrell Donkin

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/21/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/19/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/15/07, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If these are indeed going to be official releases, we should totally > > dispense with the requirements for "-incubating" i

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-22 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 15 Mar 07, at 9:23 PM 15 Mar 07, Henri Yandell wrote: Two parts to the vote: ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). [ ] +1 [ ] -1 +1 TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 -1 Vote to last a week. Unless peopl

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/15/07, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If these are indeed going to be official releases, we should totally > dispense with the requirements for "-incubating" in artifact filenames > and version numbers, let them announce the re

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-20 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 15, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: Two parts to the vote: ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). [ ] +1 [ X ] -1 TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. [ X] +1 [ ] -1 People need incentives to get out of the incubator. Esp

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-19 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/15/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Two parts to the vote: ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). [x] +1 [ ] -1 TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. [ ] +1 [x] -1 So long as Incubator releases are distributed as art

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