Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-15 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/15/2011 9:58 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Past the 72 hour notation below but I didn't see a final tally. Then you missed the note. [Hint: search for the subject RESULT] --- Begin Message --- On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Binding votes are ones that ar

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-15 Thread Matt Hogstrom
; > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recall&rev=207 > > As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-14 Thread Samuel Rojas
+1 El jun 13, 2011 2:28 p.m., "JLCastle" escribió: > I see this is too late to count but I offer my thoughts anyway. > It was already late before it lurked in an outbox for a while. > > [-1] (non-binding) Vote to reject the OpenOffice.org PROPOSAL > > I reject the proposal not the community or the

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread JLCastle
I see this is too late to count but I offer my thoughts anyway. It was already late before it lurked in an outbox for a while. [-1] (non-binding) Vote to reject the OpenOffice.org PROPOSAL I reject the proposal not the community or the project. I am still a bit of an open source newb and d

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >> A (v)olunteer on the committer roster > > me too, if allowed Oversight on my part. One that has no bearing on the process. Next step for you is to send in an ICLA. http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt > M. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
> A (v)olunteer on the committer roster me too, if allowed M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
: Leo Simons > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 12:31:00 PM > Subject: [DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: > [VOTE] >Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation) > > Hey hey, > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schae

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/13/2011 11:31 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phillip Rhodes >> >> Mondo rad. But one quick question what does the (v) mean, listed after >> some of the names in the voter list? > > I meant to either explain that or remove it. Oh well. :-) > > That was my own p

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> > >> > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum >> > is 3 binding +1 yes votes.  Once quorum is met,

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/13/2011 11:26 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>> >>> Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members. Quorum >>> is 3 binding +1 yes votes. Once quorum is met, if more +1 vot

[DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > +1 binding.  Given the sheer number of committers involved in this podling > there will be some work to do trying to gel a coherent development community > out of the group.  While I am optimistic, I am reminded of Roy's cautions > a

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members. Quorum > > is 3 binding +1 yes votes. Once quorum is met, if more +1 votes are > > received than -1, the vote carries. Ot

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Congratulations to all who want this to happen! Now lets do our best to make it a success. For all the new committers: Welcome to the ASF. I wish a good time here with lots of fun. Cheers, Christian On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wr

[VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum > is 3 binding +1 yes votes.  Once quorum is met, if more +1 votes are > received than -1, the vote carries.  Otherwise, the vote fails. Vote started on Friday, June 10th at

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Brett Porter
taken into consideration by the proposers. I wish them all the best of luck! Cheers, Brett On 11/06/2011, at 2:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject Open

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Kew
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:02:44 -0400 Sam Ruby wrote: -1 (non-binding) I've agonised long and hard about this. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Apache take on such a great trophy project? And of course we'll be best-of-friends with TDF despite perhaps a few vocal individuals? And in the worst cas

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Cor Nouws
; b. + : because the many people from the OpenOffice.org project that I know and want to give the Apache OpenOffice.org a chance, which I think is fair too. Round (b-a) = +0 (non binding) Kind regards, Cor [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Dieter Loeschky
scan and review the archives for this month: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Tim Williams
eads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to Ope

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
scan and review the archives for this month: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Steve Loughran
tp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation I may have missed the vote it being over a weekend a

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Malte Timmermann
nding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: gene

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
oposal?action=recall&rev=207 > > As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [  

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) -Bertrand, who agrees with Dirk. On Sunday, June 12, 2011, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > *: who is in a - what the hack mood - and thinks that  get this code base in > a state where people can start hacking is better than let it b

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/12/2011 4:03 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Not that much; > * Same players. > * Same importance. Really? I'm pretty certain there is < 0.05% overlap between the Office Suite and Java Runtime mechanics of either Sun or IBM. They probably never even shared so much as a VP, although I could

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread dsh
. Here >>> is a link to the document in the wiki: >>> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recall&rev=207 >>> >>> As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to >>> scan and review the arc

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This vote will close 72 hours from now. - Sam Ruby = OpenOffice.org - An open productivity environment = == Abstract == !OpenOffice.org is comprised of six personal pro

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
our votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This vote will close 72 hours from now. - Sam Ruby = OpenOffice.org - An open productivity environment = == Abstract == !OpenOffice.org is compris

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I would like to see a future for OOo and i hope that this can be a new start. A few words to myself because i wasn't really visible here on the list so far. My name is Juergen Schmidt (jsc) and I have worked on the project since

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:12 PM, IngridvdM wrote: > [x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) > > I would like to humbly beg you people from Apache for giving a chance to > those who are willing to join you. I am

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Shane Curcuru
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 12, 2011, at 3:01 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: >> It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of >> being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum >> openness can walk the path between corporate, startup

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > Since Oracle was willing to transfer the OOo source code copyrights to > the ASF, the ASF could have accepted those copyrights, > extract the related code for the ODF reference implementation, and > re-release the source code with a copyle

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
eview the archives for this month: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This vote will close

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
June 12, 2011 11:21:26 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenO

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Jomar Silva
On 2011/5/12 9:5 Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >Nearly the whole and very active community in Brasil switched to LO. A >lot of very brilliant and active members of the german community are >working now at LO, doing a very good job. In General, the Brazilian users keeps using BrOffice. BrOffice has ch

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Marcus
+1 non-bindung > From Sam Ruby > Subject[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > Date Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:02:44 GMT > > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. +1 (non-binding) /niklas --

[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Santiago Gala
+1 (not binding) Trying to establish a layer of common infrastructure for Open Document Format processors looks a worthy attempt, even with all the warnings and caveats. I was Incubator PMC member till recently, and I could have re-joined to vote. It looks like cheating, though. Regards Santiago

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 10 June 2011 17:02, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. > +1 (non-binding) Andrew. -- asav...@apache.org / cont...@andrewsavory.co

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
eview the archives for this month: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This vote will close

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 [binding] Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
> [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation +/- 0 (non binding) I am still going back and forth, on whether or not. against: I understand very well most of the arguments from An

[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) Dw*. *: who is in a - what the hack mood - and thinks that get this code base in a state where people can start hacking is better than let it bitrot any further. And fully trust the incubator process to attic the code & jettison

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Michael McCandless
+1 Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >  [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) > > Comment: While I favor focusing on the reference implementation for ODF, as > my previous comments reflec

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: >> It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of >> being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum >> openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs. > > You think Apache Harmony is a com

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell: > It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of > being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum > openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs. You think Apache Harmony is a comparable

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Ind

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I like the Apache license and I think having a really free alternative is good for everyone, as much as clang vs gcc and linux vs FreeBSD. Apache is also a good fit for OO technologically and I think the incubation process will end up

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Henri Yandell
amp;rev=207 > > As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread IngridvdM
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) I would like to humbly beg you people from Apache for giving a chance to those who are willing to join you. I am deeply sorry that we are bringing a big political dispute with us. My hope is that the community that was so heavily

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Richard Hirsch
+1 (binding) Dick On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM, wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > - Don Harbison > > Sam Ruby wrote on 06/10/2011 12:02:44 PM: > >> >> Please cast your votes: >> >> [ X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation >> [  ] +0 Ind

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread donald_harbison
+1 (non-binding) - Don Harbison Sam Ruby wrote on 06/10/2011 12:02:44 PM: > > Please cast your votes: > > [ X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation > > This vote will

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Eric Charles
[x] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation Eric On 10/06/11 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote: *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE] As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org

RE: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ves.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3cBANLkTi=xbf7sg1nc2jjrd-obxofukki...@mail.gmail.com%3e> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:55 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ... ] Since Oracle was willing to transfer the OOo

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Malte Timmermann
+1 (non-binding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > >> The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for >> the ODF format >> was not discussed. > > Yes it was. In f

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Malte Timmermann
+1 (non-binding) Malte. On 10.06.2011 19:05, Sam Ruby wrote: [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Wilson
+1 (non-binding) /-/-/-/-/-/ Scott Wilson - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christoph Jopp
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding) At first I thought beeing on the committers list would imply my approval of the proposal. But now I'd like to give the reasons for my vote as so many others did: (All just my point of view as an suburban inhabitant of the &quo

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Sam, On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > [X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding). Good luck! C

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 (binding) I have similar concerns as Niclas and a few other folks here, and estimate the risk of failure of this very visible podling as too high. I wasn't sure about my vote till the last moment. But in the current situation I don't see an alternative to ASF taking it and trying to do our b

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, I've been thinking for quite a while whether I should raise my voice and vote or not. I've made my standpoint rather clear the last days, so I wanted to abstain from voting, as I've shown all the facts already. However, having been in involved with the OpenOffice.org project for many y

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Steve Lee
+1 (non-binding) -- Steve Lee Full Measure - open source accessibility - http://fullmeasure.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
-1 (non-binding) As stated elsewhere [1], this incubator, combined with the disruption and delay it's causing to the OOo ecosystem, does not add enough unique value to what we already have a TDF to justify the effort. (I'm referring to the existing proposal's mission statement [2], not to the (qu

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis > wrote: > > > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > > the ODF format > > was not discussed. > > Yes it wa

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Upayavira
ncubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation > > This vote will close 72 hours from now. > > - Sam Ruby &g

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Nóirín Plunkett
+1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) N - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Struberg
Yes, and I also like to correct my previous statement: I actually meant that ALL votes are welcome (not only +1)! LieGrue, strub --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > From: Daniel Shahaf > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > To: general@incubator.a

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation -1. I think by accepting this ASF is risking quite a lot of flak and reputational damage

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread André Schnabel
-1 (non-binding) Within the discussion several reasons that might support a -1 vote were named, many have been addressed or may be addresed by the podling. I still feel obligated to vote -1 because (even if the podling advances to a Apache TLP) this will be the end of "OpenOffice.org as it is

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 11, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Christian Grobmeier > > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > the ODF format > was not discussed. This would probably make the Free Software > Foundation (FSF) happy. > > T

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>> I think Italo is incorrect saying voting "no" would be a defeat for >>> free software. It is an honest mistake. People don't know what else >>> could happen, because alternatives are not being discussed. >> >> They have been discussed. Even at this list. We have discussed to say >> "no" to OOo

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > Now that you mention it; the voting started at time (7.02pm local time). > Benson Margulies voted at 7.03pm. > You voted at 7.05pm. > > Is the voting start time pre-announced? The voting time was pre-announced on this very list: http:/

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > the ODF format > was not discussed. Yes it was. In fact it was the suggestion that OO.o should be refactored so that

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
incompatibilities with LibreOffice. Cheers, Andreas --- > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Ketih, > >> I think Italo is incorrect saying voting "no" would be a defeat for >> free software. It is an honest mistake. People don't know what else >> could happen, because alternatives are not being discussed. > > They have been dis

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 11.06.2011 06:17, schrieb Keith Curtis: I think LibreOffice people are quiet for various reasons: Everyone here votes on his own behalf, for his own reasons and at the time he feels to be the right time. There is currently no need to vote on anybody's behalf (really - nobody here o

Re: [DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Gavin, 2011/6/11 Gavin McDonald : >> From: Volker Merschmann [mailto:merschm...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:49 PM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation >> >> Hi, >> >> I

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding > down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an > Apache Incubator project. +1 from me (binding). cheers, Leo

Re: [DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Brouwer
Hi Gavin, Op 11-6-2011 10:59, Gavin McDonald schreef: -Original Message- From: Volker Merschmann [mailto:merschm...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:49 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation Hi, I am wearing my OOo-hat

[DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Volker Merschmann [mailto:merschm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:49 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > > Hi, > > I am wearing my OOo-hat here, and th

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, I am wearing my OOo-hat here, and this is my vote: [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [X ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation I have contributed to OpenOffice.org for several years and I doubt that the project will find the

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding). -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Ketih, > I think Italo is incorrect saying voting "no" would be a defeat for > free software. It is an honest mistake. People don't know what else > could happen, because alternatives are not being discussed. They have been discussed. Even at this list. We have discussed to say "no" to OOo at the

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Ralph Goers
e numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to Ope

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Julien Vermillard
gt; and review the archives for this month: >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser >> >> Please cast your votes: >> >> [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation >> [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread ant elder
/wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recall&rev=207 > > As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Pl

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Keith Curtis
> Maybe the "people from LibreOffice" are not voting against because, even > though they believe there could have been better solutions, given the > current situation they prefer that OOo is approved as a podling: see > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/5824 for > a mor

Re: Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
I have been active before :). So the vote is binding. Sanjiva. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:42 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/10/2011 12:04 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > > (Officially I'm on the incubator PMC I believe but I have not been active > .. > > so lets chalk this up for non

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 10/06/2011 Keith Curtis wrote: > P.S. I don't see many from LibreOffice voting against this proposal, so I > joined again to vote on their behalf. Maybe the "people from LibreOffice" are not voting against because, even though they believe there could have been better solutions, given the curre

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread James Kosin
On 2:59 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation > > This vote will close 72 hours from now. +

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Ate Douma
+1 (binding) Ate - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Carl Marcum
+1 (non-binding) Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation Best regards, Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
e less roundabout: Roman's vote is not binding since he's not on the IPMC. > --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Roman H. Gelbort wrote: > > > From: Roman H. Gelbort > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > D

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Kevan Miller
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
rous, I encourage people to scan > and review the archives for this month: > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Struberg
-by-project.html#incubator-pmc --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Roman H. Gelbort wrote: > From: Roman H. Gelbort > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 6:13 PM > El 10/06/11 14:17, Roman H. Gelbort > escri

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread florent andré
[ X ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation non-binding - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Comment: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Andy Brown
Keith Curtis wrote: -1 My list of 44 reasons is here: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=2567 To boil it down to one: this plan as announced had several big flaws, and they still exist. Kind regards, -Keith P.S. I don't see many from LibreOffice voting against this proposal, so I joined again t

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