Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 11:45 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > The license to review is the one in the specification documentation, > > which in essence says nothing other than the fact that you are NOT > > indemnified against IP claims, which is standard CYA by the OSGi > > Alliance. > >

RE: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
+1 Please start the incubation process, keeping in mind that all IP issues must be resolved during incubation. CLAs and a Software Grant for the existing code base(s) should be filed ASAP. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
moving discussion to oscar-dev and legal-discuss Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:45, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > OSGi specifications are free to implement. > > > Like the RFC process the specifications are crafted by a closed > > group. However anyone can implement these specifications. > > I don't see how you came to that conclusion. I think I would g

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: The OSGi community appears, from their own materials, to be a closed-circle consortium with a RAND-based cross-licensing agreement to members, in which OSGi's ability to license invented materials is limited to licenses to

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:45 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: As a matter of fact let me ask right now with a request to infrastructure for these dev lists. Could the [EMAIL PROTECTED] be created soon? Done. Roy - To unsubscribe,

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Karasulu
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would like to start a new project based on the existing Oscar OSGi Container which Richard Hall is graciously willing to donate. The OSGi community ap

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Enrique Rodriguez
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The Apache Software Foundation has applied to participate on the JSR. Currently, the ASF projects interested in this JSR are Harmony and Maven. I assume that people from OSCAR are? Yes, Richard Hall of Oscar. Enrique geir Enrique -

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Enrique Rodriguez wrote: Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: +1 .. do you guys plan for Oscar to become a JSR 277 impl as well? Are the ASF folks on that JSR involved with Oscar?) Hi, Sanjiva, I don't know if any Apache folks are on that JSR, but Richard Hall (of O

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Enrique Rodriguez
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: +1 .. do you guys plan for Oscar to become a JSR 277 impl as well? Are the ASF folks on that JSR involved with Oscar?) Hi, Sanjiva, I don't know if any Apache folks are on that JSR, but Richard Hall (of Oscar and this proposal) has applied to be, as an individual.

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Enrique Rodriguez
Hi, Overnight we gained 5 more supporters. Heejune Ahn (Independent) Yalcin Akdogan (Zeroadmin Software) Juan C. Dueñas (ITEA/Eureka researcher and Associate Professor, DIT-UPM) José L. Ruiz (PhD Candidate, DIT-UPM) Manuel Santillan (PhD Candidate, DIT-UPM) Enrique On Thu, 2005

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would like to start a new project based on the existing Oscar OSGi Container which Richard Hall is graciously willing to donate. The OSGi community appears, from their own mate

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
IIRC there were some folks already formally rep'ing ASF. Check with Geir please .. Sanjiva. On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 10:43 -0400, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > >+1 .. do you guys plan for Oscar to become a JSR 277 impl as well? Are > >the ASF folks on that JSR involved with

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Karasulu
Reinhard, We still have yet to setup the lists. I will make the request today. Sorry about the inconvenience. Several people have already tried to subscribe. As a matter of fact let me ask right now with a request to infrastructure for these dev lists. Could the [EMAIL PROTECTED] be cre

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Karasulu
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: +1 .. do you guys plan for Oscar to become a JSR 277 impl as well? Are the ASF folks on that JSR involved with Oscar Yes Richard Hall will most likely be on this JSR I believe.. Alex - To unsubsc

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-15 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1 .. do you guys plan for Oscar to become a JSR 277 impl as well? Are the ASF folks on that JSR involved with Oscar?) Thanks, Sanjiva. On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 19:59 -0400, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Hello, > > The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would > like to start

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 15 July 2005 10:07, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Here's my +1 My non-binding, big +1 as well. and here another non-binding +1 -- Reinhard Pötz Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach {Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Reinhard Poetz
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Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 15 July 2005 10:07, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Here's my +1 My non-binding, big +1 as well. Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Alex Karasulu
Oh btw the turnout for this is so massive we're getting a trickle of supporters daily and adding them to the document. Perhaps we can get a wiki up soon and the dev lists. For the time being here's the document in subversion: https://svn.safehaus.org/repos/sandbox/proposals/osgi/osgi-proposa

Re: [proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Here's my +1 -- dims On 7/14/05, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would > like to start a new project based on the existing Oscar OSGi Container > which Richard Hall is graciously willing to donate. Without

[proposal] Oscar OSGi Project

2005-07-14 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hello, The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would like to start a new project based on the existing Oscar OSGi Container which Richard Hall is graciously willing to donate. Without further commentary we present to you the proposal for the Oscar project: Project