Roy T. Fielding wrote:

On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:

The OSGi community at large, several Apache committers and members would like to start a new project based on the existing Oscar OSGi Container which Richard Hall is graciously willing to donate.


The OSGi community appears, from their own materials, to be a
closed-circle consortium with a RAND-based cross-licensing
agreement to members, in which OSGi's ability to license invented
materials is limited to licenses to other members.

Could you please explain how OSGi intends to comply with the
Apache contributor license agreement at

   http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt

Will all of the OSGi members be signing that agreement, or at
least those with IP claims on the code/specifications?

As usual Roy some very good questions. At this point (need to research this further) we realize OSGi is a closed Alliance. However note that our goal is not to become a member of OSGi but rather to implement a specification. OSGi specifications are free to implement. Like the RFC process the specifications are crafted by a closed group. However anyone can implement these specifications.

The license to review is the one in the specification documentation, which in essence says nothing other than the fact that you are NOT indemnified against IP claims, which is standard CYA by the OSGi Alliance. The OSGi Alliance makes member companies declare up front any IP claims, and none of them have. Leaving the specification license as a CYA. Also please note that Oscar and KnoplerFish are OSS implementations of that specification that have been around for 5 years now. This suggests there are no IP restrictions on implementing the specification. Also note Roy that our intention is to unify the Oscar and KnoplerFish communities with a single effort at the ASF. These communities already exist with existing code bases. Our mission is to bring this all together in one place.

Regards,
Alex


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