Hi,
> out of curiosity - how does this relate to or maybe even complement Eclipse
> Lyo [1]? For instance is Lyo one of the Enterprise Linked Data scenarios
> which you have been mentioning above?
>
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/lyo/
>
Eclipse Lyo is focused on OSLC (Open Services for Lifecycle C
Hi Paolo,
You are right, the discussion on the list shows we should explain a bit more
about the general idea. We will add a paragraph to the proposal and some more
links to background material. ;-)
Am 19.11.2012 um 00:45 schrieb Paolo Castagna:
> On 19/11/12 01:01, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
Hi Daniel,
Am 19.11.2012 um 06:53 schrieb dsh:
> A few comments in regards to the proposal draft and "linked data"
> specifically:
>
> * maybe consider calling out that you are striving towards implementing the
> Linked Data Platform 1.0 W3C draft (at least that's how I understand the
> proposal
Hi,
On 19/11/12 06:53, dsh wrote:
A few comments in regards to the proposal draft and "linked data"
specifically:
extremely welcome ;-)
* maybe consider calling out that you are striving towards implementing the
Linked Data Platform 1.0 W3C draft (at least that's how I understand the
proposa
As far as I know, Lyo is internally discussing and planning to implement
the Linked Data Platform somehow:
http://www.w3.org/wiki/LDP_Implementations
But I don't have more details, sorry.
Best,
On 16/11/12 19:26, dsh wrote:
Hi,
out of curiosity - how does this relate to or maybe even comple
Hi,
out of curiosity - how does this relate to or maybe even complement Eclipse
Lyo [1]? For instance is Lyo one of the Enterprise Linked Data scenarios
which you have been mentioning above?
[1] http://www.eclipse.org/lyo/
Cheers
Daniel
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Schaffert <
se
Heh yeah I as well had the tuplespace implementation associated with Linda
as I read Apache Linda :) Where Linda itself might have become historic,
the concept still is in use. E.g. [1].
[1]
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1739850&CFID=202524342&CFTOKEN=19022440
Cheers
Daniel
On Fri, Nov 16,
On 19/11/12 01:01, Benson Margulies wrote:
Ted,
I did read the whole thing, and I'd like to join you in drawing a
curtain in front of the man.
The proposers of this project didn't create the problem of the term
'linked data', and they can't fix it. As you suggest, all they can do
is pick a TLP
A few comments in regards to the proposal draft and "linked data"
specifically:
* maybe consider calling out that you are striving towards implementing the
Linked Data Platform 1.0 W3C draft (at least that's how I understand the
proposal)
* will Linda (or whatever name you'll choose) cover data go
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> I suggest choosing a different name
Selinda comes to mind - as in "semantic Linda", and Google doesn't
know it about software.
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Hi Ted,
I read all your mail ( :-) ) and I am sorry that this evolved into such a
discussion. For me, "Linked Data" is as specific as "Web", "Stack" or "Heap",
and I would claim it is like this for at least the rest of the Web community
and possibly the database community as well. But regardles
Hi,
On 18/11/12 21:55, Ted Dunning wrote:
That is because the phrase is only used as a proper noun for one thing.
But it is used commonly as a descriptive phrase.
I agree about the technical terms, but in this case it's a name.
Even Google is not confused: http://www.google.com/search?q=linke
On 18/11/12 02:04, dsh wrote:
Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in
Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be
crippled to a certain extend.
No, the proposal text addresses not only linked open data scenarios, but
much more
Ted,
I did read the whole thing, and I'd like to join you in drawing a
curtain in front of the man.
The proposers of this project didn't create the problem of the term
'linked data', and they can't fix it. As you suggest, all they can do
is pick a TLP name that is neutral to positive in relation
How about following the tradition established by the contraction of web log
into blog?
That would give "web linked data" => Blinda
It is still a female name if you need the gender stereotyping of Linda. It
seems to have non-English meanings, but certainly has no connotations in
English. It also
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Paolo Castagna wrote:
>
On 17/11/12 22:49, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
>> Frankly, the phrase "linked data" is also so generic as to be essentially
>> meaningless outside your community. There are many, many uses of this
>> phrase in computer science that mean some
Then call it LODen.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM, dsh wrote:
> Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in
> Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be
> crippled to a certain extend.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 201
Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in
Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be
crippled to a certain extend.
Cheers
Daniel
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert <
sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at> wrot
Hi Ted,
in addition to the comments and links from Sebastian, I want to add
something myself.
On 17/11/12 22:49, Ted Dunning wrote:
Frankly, the phrase "linked data" is also so generic as to be essentially
meaningless outside your community. There are many, many uses of this
phrase in compute
WebLinda is nice and specific and phonetically suggestive.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <
nandana@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to say when I heard the name "Linda", I really liked it because it
> is short, catchy, easy to remember and goes well with Linked Data. B
Btw, I think the Wikipedia reference in the Tuple Space article to the
blackboard metaphor is misleading cause it's already bound to AI expert
systems such as Hofstadter's copycat... if I have collected enough evidence
I'll change the article accordingly :)
Cheers
Daniel
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at
tuplespaces are STILL well known and Linda is one or even its original
implementation where JavaSapces is another and later on grid computing
borrowed some ideas [1] from it etc pp. So I wouldn't make a statement as
such as Linda nowadays is "ancient" technology (to use a strong term).
Anyway we ha
lasooriya [mailto:nandana@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 01:51
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Linda
I have to say when I heard the name "Linda", I really liked it because it
is short, catchy, easy to remember and goes well with Linked Data. But
I have to say when I heard the name "Linda", I really liked it because it
is short, catchy, easy to remember and goes well with Linked Data. But I
totally agree that it is good to avoid any name conflict issues or
trademark issues in this early stage where it is easily possible. I was
thinking whet
Another possblility is "Adnil" being reversed linked data.
A nice twist.
Anyway, up to the podling.
There are some useful Incubator resources for quickly dealing
with the Name issue. Here are some:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/n
Dear Ted,
even though I agree that the term "Linked Data" is very generic, this is out of
my influence, and it describes quite well what the topic is about. The term
"Linked Data" has actually been proposed by Tim Berners-Lee:
http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html
and is used in the v
Frankly, the phrase "linked data" is also so generic as to be essentially
meaningless outside your community. There are many, many uses of this
phrase in computer science that mean something completely different from
what you guys seem to mean.
It took me quite a bit of reading to figure out what
Or maLinda? There's Lindane, but that's something else. It might avoid bugs.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Ian Holsman wrote:
> What about DaNil? Or DaLin?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18/11/2012, at 9:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> first of all, thanks for the fe
What about DaNil? Or DaLin?
Sent from my iPhone
On 18/11/2012, at 9:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> first of all, thanks for the feedback so far...
>
> Am 17.11.2012 um 20:08 schrieb Andy Seaborne:
>
>
>> You're right changing the name can be done later but the name tends
Dear all,
first of all, thanks for the feedback so far...
Am 17.11.2012 um 20:08 schrieb Andy Seaborne:
> You're right changing the name can be done later but the name tends to get
> embedded both in the system (e.g. URLs, JIRA project) and more importantly in
> people knowing about the commu
On 17/11/12 09:01, Sergio Fernández wrote:
Hi Roy,
we were aware of the possible conflict/confusion with the name; but
since the Linda model is quite old, not really spread nowadays and
completely far away of the Linked Data topic, personally I can't see a
really big issue here. But of course th
+1 (non-binding)
as a first comment.
Cheers,
Andreas
Sebastian Schaffert:
> Dear all,
>
> we would like to propose a new project called Apache Linda as a
> Linked Data Platform implementation to the incubator. Andy Seaborne
> was so kind as to volunteer as a champion for the project. The
> prop
Hi Roy,
we were aware of the possible conflict/confusion with the name; but
since the Linda model is quite old, not really spread nowadays and
completely far away of the Linked Data topic, personally I can't see a
really big issue here. But of course the Incubator PMC has a deeper
knowledge o
I had the same impression (oh boy... Linda still exists ... oh wait, not
that Linda)
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> I suggest choosing a different name.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_%28coordination_language%29
>
> We generally don't use names that have be
Hi Guys,
This sounds really interesting looking forward to hanging around and see what
comes of it!
Cheers,
Chris
On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> we would like to propose a new project called Apache Linda as a Linked Data
> Platform implementation to t
I suggest choosing a different name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_%28coordination_language%29
We generally don't use names that have been (and continue to be)
used extensively by other software projects.
Roy
On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
Dear all,
we would like to propose a new project called Apache Linda as a Linked Data
Platform implementation to the incubator. Andy Seaborne was so kind as to
volunteer as a champion for the project. The proposal is available at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LindaProposal
The goal of Apach
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