Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be crippled to a certain extend.
Cheers Daniel On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert < sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote: > Dear Ted, > > even though I agree that the term "Linked Data" is very generic, this is > out of my influence, and it describes quite well what the topic is about. > The term "Linked Data" has actually been proposed by Tim Berners-Lee: > > http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html > > and is used in the various standardisation efforts (like the W3C "Linked > Data Platform" recommendation mentioned in the proposal). There is also a > nice presentation from 2009 at TED: > > http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html > > Linked Data is also already used by major enterprises like: > - BBC: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/BBC/ > - Volkswagen: > http://semanticweb.com/volkswagen-das-auto-company-is-das-semantic-web-company_b23233 > - German National Library: > http://www.dnb.de/EN/Service/DigitaleDienste/LinkedData/linkeddata_node.html > > So my fear that 'nobody is likely to understand the phrase "Linked Data"' > is very low for the future. If there have been other uses of the phrase in > Computer Science before they are now marginalized (if you can trust a > Google search for "Linked Data"). > > That said, we take your concern serious (especially the legal issue) and > will discuss the issue on Monday. I am also grateful for the proposals that > have already been done on the list. > > Greetings, > > Sebastian > > > Am 17.11.2012 um 23:49 schrieb Ted Dunning: > > > Frankly, the phrase "linked data" is also so generic as to be essentially > > meaningless outside your community. There are many, many uses of this > > phrase in computer science that mean something completely different from > > what you guys seem to mean. > > > > It took me quite a bit of reading to figure out what you were talking > > about. At the very least, you need to look at your supporting materials > > with a naive eye so that you can avoid the confusion that your name and > > terminology are likely to cause. > > > > Having a project name that memorializes a phrase that nobody is likely to > > understand without (lots of) supporting material and which is used by > other > > projects in roughly the same domain is problematic. > > > > My feeling is that I would be -0 on the name meaning that I think that it > > isn't good, but I wouldn't stand in the way by vetoing it. You guys seem > > pretty attached to your terminology regardless of the merits and it > doesn't > > seem a big enough issue to be worth causing friction over it. > > > > You should be aware, however, that with these defects, it seems very > > unlikely to me that Apache would be able to help with trademark and name > > conflict issues. That may not seem like a big deal now, but if your > > project really does get going and then somebody tries to take over your > > community with a nearly identically named product, it will definitely > feel > > like a big deal. Take a look at what happens with Open Office all the > time. > > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Sebastian Schaffert < > > sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote: > > > >> I agree that "Linda" is a very generic name and as such there are > already > >> several projects out there with this name. On the other hand, we chose > >> "Linda" as an acronym for "Linked Data" in order to increase > >> recognizability especially in the domain we are targeting. For our > >> community, we think it would be quite easy to identify "Apache Linda" > with > >> the Linked Data Platform and not with a blackboard system or a > methodology > >> for parallel execution. A more artificial name would probably have a > harder > >> time establishing a brand (but of course the project is good enough to > >> manage ;-) ). > >> > >> In case the Incubator PMC still recommends to rename the project, I > agree > >> we should do it BEFORE starting up the project. We will discuss options > for > >> renaming on Monday (European Time) and come up with suggestions. > >> > > Sebastian > -- > | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at > | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft http://www.salzburgresearch.at > | Head of Knowledge and Media Technologies Group +43 662 2288 423 > | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II > | A-5020 Salzburg > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
