Hi!
I've committed the first cut and updated the website. I'm also
adding a special section to the incubator report calling
out projects where we would require a readout from the
mentors.
I would really appreciate if others can help with making
the docs crisper, etc.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Aug
On 11 Aug 2014, at 10:14, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
With this in mind, I would remove almost everything from the "What is
retirement" section and keep just
A retired project is a project which has been closed down for various
reasons, instead of graduating as an Apache project. It is no lo
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik
> wrote:
> >> ...Including the patch below...
> >
> > Sorry to come in late but I had a look at [1] and it's way too
> >
On 12 August 2014 09:38, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > ... * since I haven't seen much of complaining, can I please commit my
> > proposed stuff and then we can pile additional edits on top of
> that?...
>
> Sure, my complaining
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> ... * since I haven't seen much of complaining, can I please commit my
> proposed stuff and then we can pile additional edits on top of that?...
Sure, my complaining is more a general issue about incubator.apache.org
>* re-rea
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> ...Including the patch below...
>
> Sorry to come in late but I had a look at [1] and it's way too
> complicated IMO, and I don't think the proposed patch helps with that.
>
>
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> ...Including the patch below...
Sorry to come in late but I had a look at [1] and it's way too
complicated IMO, and I don't think the proposed patch helps with that.
In general http://incubator.apache.org/ is way too verbose and hard to
It makes sense. And it also seems to be a decent compilation of the points
agreed in the earlier and lengthy discussion on the topic.
Cos
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 05:22PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Seems like attachments are eaten away by general@
> Including the patch bellow
>
> Index: content/g
Seems like attachments are eaten away by general@
Including the patch bellow
Index: content/guides/retirement.xml
===
--- content/guides/retirement.xml (revision 1617182)
+++ content/guides/retirement.xml (working copy)
@@ -64,6 +64,7
Hi!
Sorry for the delay -- OSCON and then a vacation (that was long
promised to my family but never delivered) derailed my legislative
agenda at IPMC ;-)
Attached is the proposed patch to the Incubator website detailing
the policy.
Please comment.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:47 P
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> wrote:
> > On 12 Jul 2014, at 8:05, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> >> That's actually the part of the thread that I have a lot of interest in.
> >> Is there any reason not to use attic fo
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On 12 Jul 2014, at 8:05, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> That's actually the part of the thread that I have a lot of interest in.
>> Is there any reason not to use attic for hibernated podlings?
>
> I am not sure if there is a real reason, b
On 12 Jul 2014, at 8:05, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, ant elder wrote:
>> As i've said i don't think thats a
>> very good rule and doesn't seem like its really been thought through
>> properly. For example, its kept saying that the podling would go to
>> the ASF Atti
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, ant elder wrote:
> I think its something like "If a podling is over a year old and not
> done a release then retire it".
Almost. What is being proposed is not an immediate retirement,
but rather a vote. So it should really read: "If a podling is over a
year old an
This is quite a long thread now so its not that clear what the actual
proposal is now, could you maybe state what the current proposal is?
I think its something like "If a podling is over a year old and not
done a release then retire it". As i've said i don't think thats a
very good rule and doesn
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:
> On 09/07/2014 09:12, "Chris Douglas" wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>>> Again, why would code lose users? Remember we're talking
>>> about a situation of no releases here. Presumably those
>>> users who are c
On 09/07/2014 09:12, "Chris Douglas" wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> Again, why would code lose users? Remember we're talking
>> about a situation of no releases here. Presumably those
>> users who are comfortable building from the repo would
>> just keep do
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Again, why would code lose users? Remember we're talking
> about a situation of no releases here. Presumably those
> users who are comfortable building from the repo would
> just keep doing so. And since there was no release,
> what else i
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:01 PM, ant elder wrote:
> Right, and thats why i don't think a rule like that would be useful.
I still don't quite follow. Are you saying that the rule wouldn't
be useful, or that incubator -> attic migration wouldn't be?
> If Droids was made to retire the code would be
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 04:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
> > > and then I got distracted ;-)
>
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 04:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
> > and then I got distracted ;-)
> >
> > That said -- I really would like to drive us to some kind
> >
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
> and then I got distracted ;-)
>
> That said -- I really would like to drive us to some kind
> consensus (even if we have to do the vote) because
> the current situ
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> I'll offer OpenOffice as an example of how long an initial podling
> release can take in some cases, due to a number of factors:
I agree with all of your points. Most of all with your final conclusion.
I still can't help but comment on one singl
Hi!
Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
and then I got distracted ;-)
That said -- I really would like to drive us to some kind
consensus (even if we have to do the vote) because
the current situation is simply sad (top 8 project):
https://whimsy.apache.org/incuba
On 25 Jun 2014, at 10:38, ant elder wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
On 24 Jun 2014, at 21:27, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Rom
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2014, at 21:27, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> >>
On 24 Jun 2014, at 21:27, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>>> That said, reminding people of the "release often and early" thing is
>>> g
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> > wrote:
>> >> I think its not enough to just look at release /
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > wrote:
> >> I think its not enough to just look at release / committer additions.
> >>
> >> In the case of Wave, there
On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
I think its not enough to just look at release / committer additions.
In the case of Wave, there was a committer addition in the past year.
Still
no commits, nor a release. Looking cl
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> I think its not enough to just look at release / committer additions.
>
> In the case of Wave, there was a committer addition in the past year. Still
> no commits, nor a release. Looking closer you would find that committer was
> added
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 05:54AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
> > To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria
> > for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both
> > of of the following applies project get put to a r
On 19 Jun 2014, at 14:54, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria
for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both
of of the following applies project get put to a retirement
IPMC vot
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria
> for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both
> of of the following applies project get put to a retirement
> IPMC vote:
>* there has been a release in the past
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote:
> as the retirement criteria would IMO be too harsh for Celix when we
> started.
>
In a similar vein, Drill currently has about the same number of commits and
mail messages as Hive does, but hasn't had a release in a while. They have
Hi,
2014-06-19 8:14 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik :
> Hi!
>
> based on a recent thread inspired by observing
> some of the podlings, I'd like to kick start a discussion
> around making an amendment to our Incubator
> policy:
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>
> It
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria
> for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both
> of of the following applies project get put to a retirement
> IPMC vote:
>* there has been a release in the past
Hi!
based on a recent thread inspired by observing
some of the podlings, I'd like to kick start a discussion
around making an amendment to our Incubator
policy:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
It feels like we're missing one important part to
the whole process --
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