Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-12 Thread Mark Struberg
AM > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal > > Hi Hadrian, > > thanks a lot for the deep review, I am going to update the proposal! > > CMS I think is fine, thanks a lot! > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejo

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-12 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Hadrian, thanks a lot for the deep review, I am going to update the proposal! CMS I think is fine, thanks a lot! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Hadr

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-11 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Simone, You may want to update the Confluence and Jira spaces to ONAMI as well. I think Confluence is getting out of commission soon, CMS may be the better option?! Hadrian On 11/11/2012 01:01 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: moreover, "Onami" rhymes "Olamy" :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetri

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
moreover, "Onami" rhymes "Olamy" :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/11/11 Simone Tripodi : >> Yesterday in the night (EU time) Chris

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-11 Thread Olivier Lamy
2012/11/11 Simone Tripodi : > Yesterday in the night (EU time) Christian Grobmeier and I, while > chatting about psychology and philosophy, thought about the name > "Onami", it comes from a Zen story[1]. > > WDYT? good idea ! > > best, > -Simo > > [1] http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
Yesterday in the night (EU time) Christian Grobmeier and I, while chatting about psychology and philosophy, thought about the name "Onami", it comes from a Zen story[1]. WDYT? best, -Simo [1] http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetr

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-11 Thread Ioannis Canellos
How about 5hem? -- Ioannis Canellos On Friday, 9 November 2012 at 6:48 μ.μ., Simone Tripodi wrote: > Please ignore that proposal, the world is already full of projects > with that name :( > > looks like I have issues about originality, lately... > > best, > -Simo > > http://people.apa

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-09 Thread Simone Tripodi
Please ignore that proposal, the world is already full of projects with that name :( looks like I have issues about originality, lately... best, -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ -

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-09 Thread Simone Tripodi
HAHAHAH Junehem, just after Mayhem :D Christian Grobmeier also suggested My Ham, I thought about a Pata Negra[1] picture as a logo... WDYT? It makes me feel hungry! :D Jokes a part, as a martial artist, I thought that the Wado word (Wa = harmony, Do = way) could be a possible good candidate: shor

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...At the risk of stating the obvious, this also points to a > "Googleability of a name" > issue (although with Apache prefix this is typically less of a concern)... Agreed, IMO having a somewhat unique name is very useful. I did suggest

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Trademarks are fundamentally about consumers - not about the project leaders > or committers. At the risk of stating the obvious, this also points to a "Googleability of a name" issue (although with Apache prefix this is typically less of a c

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Note the various distribution lists of this mail) This is still a proposal to the Incubator, correct? From strictly a trademarks@ point of view, the name needs final vetting before graduation. As long as they're not causing an obvious problem with some other related software product current

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-07 Thread Eric Charles
Fair point Roman, the potential community/communities of developers is one of the parameter. Having a quick look at the different components dependencies, I don't see any links between them although I would have expected some of them to use sli4j for their own logging, JUnice for their unit te

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-07 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Eric Charles wrote: > Yes, the 11 components are unrelated, but I just find the release process > such a pain that I fear to go to independent lifecycle. I think the real question is whether you'd expect different sub-communities of developers tending to them, or w

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-07 Thread Eric Charles
On 06/11/2012 12:58, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi Eric! I tend to think that 'Less is more', that 'git is now a defacto standard', and that releasing all Mayhem components at the same time, with the same version number (even if there is no change for some of them) is easier for the user. it wou

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Renaming later (a) creates work for infra, (b) forces the community to expend effort communicating the rename to the world. So id'd be better to settle the name sooner rather than later. Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote on Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 20:57:26 +0100: > Hi Christian... > >Isn't that a step

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >Isn't that a step that should be done before graduation, in other words > this should not stop going with the Incubator acceptance [VOTE] ? I agree, no need to block the acceptance vote. But a thing we need to consider while in

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Christian... Isn't that a step that should be done before graduation, in other words this should not stop going with the Incubator acceptance [VOTE] ? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Putting trademarks into the loop. > > Trademark people, any comments to Simon

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Putting trademarks into the loop. Trademark people, any comments to Simones mail? I am not sure if a commonly used word like "Mayhem" can be a matter of an trademark Thanks in advance, Christian On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Good morning President :) > > Gianugo pointe

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Simone Tripodi
Good morning President :) Gianugo pointed me to the homepage of Make Mayem[1] and I found a trademarked software[2] which is called Mayhem as well. Trademarkia shows that more than 10 pages of results of products are registered with the name "Mayhem", which I suspect is a daily used word in Englis

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi again Mohammad, I was just having a conversation with Benson and started putting down the list of initial components mayhem-parent mayhem-site mayhem-guava (formerly G-Guava) mayhem-scheduler (formerly Guartz) mayhem-spi (formerly GSPI) mayhem-test (formerly JUnice) mayhem-lifecycle (formerly

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
Different topic: Is there a potential naming/trademark issue related to a pre-existing project? http://www.outercurve.org/Galleries/InnovatorsGallery/Mayhem Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubato

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Mohammad! > > 1- use one repo and have branches for each component in which u make > changes and then we merge that back into the main/default branch from which > we make releases > > 2- have different repo for each component which is easier but includes > maintaining more reps > > well in eith

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Eric! > > I tend to think that 'Less is more', that 'git is now a defacto > standard', and that releasing all Mayhem components at the same time, > with the same version number (even if there is no change for some of > them) is easier for the user. > it would be nice if they'd share a common c

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
in my ex-company we used two different approaches, we were using mercurial but the same concepts apply here 1- use one repo and have branches for each component in which u make changes and then we merge that back into the main/default branch from which we make releases 2- have different repo for

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-05 Thread Eric Charles
On 04/11/2012 09:14, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Salut Olivier! > >> AFAIK not possible (git is poor for supporting such sparse checkout mode). >> So we (infra folks) will have to maintain one git repo per component >> and create a new git repo for each new component (IMHO a pain ..). >> In some case g

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 3 November 2012 17:22, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/11/3 Simone Tripodi : > > Hi again Mohammed, > > > > one think I am curious about the Git management for Mayhem is how to > > handle the fact that Mayhem is composed by components, like apache > > commons, each component has his own lifecycle.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >> But hey what is most important build a community around cool >> code/projects or being able to use the last "à la mode" scm tool ? > > as I wrote in a previous message, I personally just need a SCM that > allows me continue developing soft

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-04 Thread Simone Tripodi
Salut Olivier! > AFAIK not possible (git is poor for supporting such sparse checkout mode). > So we (infra folks) will have to maintain one git repo per component > and create a new git repo for each new component (IMHO a pain ..). > In some case git is probably nice but not here ! indeed, for wh

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
2012/11/3 Simone Tripodi : > Hi again Mohammed, > > one think I am curious about the Git management for Mayhem is how to > handle the fact that Mayhem is composed by components, like apache > commons, each component has his own lifecycle. > > While on SVN I would have imported components in a struc

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi again Mohammed, one think I am curious about the Git management for Mayhem is how to handle the fact that Mayhem is composed by components, like apache commons, each component has his own lifecycle. While on SVN I would have imported components in a structure like trunk `- component1 `- com

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Eric! > > If we want to rely on site generated by maven or any other command line > tools, yes, it would be good to see if publication via git is supported, but > as far as I know, it is not. We can always raise a request to support it but > that should not block the podling. > > I am much more

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Charles
On 02/11/2012 13:32, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Simone... On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi Mohammed! IMO it would be easier to move into a Git repository, which I will help in setting it up. IMO, it will also be helpful for ASF Git support to have more projects

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Simone... On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Mohammed! > > > IMO it would be easier to move into a Git repository, which I will help > in > > setting it up. IMO, it will also be helpful for ASF Git support to have > > more projects using Git which will help us understan

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Mohammed! > IMO it would be easier to move into a Git repository, which I will help in > setting it up. IMO, it will also be helpful for ASF Git support to have > more projects using Git which will help us understand different needs and > use cases of different project to provide better Git sup

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Eric Charles
On 01/11/2012 20:23, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Eric Charles wrote: My userid for the incubator wiki is EricCharles. Can you please add me to the ContributorsGroup? Done. Thx Marvin Marvin Humphrey --

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-02 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Simone... On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Mohammad, > > what about having SVN+Git mirror? I personally just need a SCM, don't > have a strong preference, so recommendations are more than welcome! > What do you suggest? > IMO it would be easier to move into a Git rep

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Brock Noland
to svn that >> > > > we don't know how to do, going the other way >> > > > is largely trivial with git-svn. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >___

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
gt; > is largely trivial with git-svn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Christian Grobmeier > > > > >To: "general@incuba

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> > > we don't know how to do, going the other way > > > is largely trivial with git-svn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > From: Christian Grobmeier > > > >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" &g

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
he other way > > is largely trivial with git-svn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Christian Grobmeier > > >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > > >Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 3:48 PM > > >Subject:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
__ > > From: Christian Grobmeier > >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > >Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 3:48 PM > >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal > > > >Cool. > > > >Personally I have not the competence to do anyth

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Eric Charles wrote: > My userid for the incubator wiki is EricCharles. Can you please add me to > the ContributorsGroup? Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incub

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
2 3:48 PM >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal > >Cool. > >Personally I have not the competence to do anything with git except using >it (referencing to Craigs mail). >Now... how did you do the history transition from svn to git? > >Cheers > > >On T

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Cool. Personally I have not the competence to do anything with git except using it (referencing to Craigs mail). Now... how did you do the history transition from svn to git? Cheers On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho wrote: > I've been participating in three different projects

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
I've been participating in three different projects that were moving from SVN to git (flume, sqoop, mrunit) and we did not experienced any issues with that process. Jarcec On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 12:09:43PM -0700, Craig L Russell wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrot

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hello, I would prefer GIT, even when I am not a GIT guru. The reason is simple: there is no way to save history when moving from git to svn. At least two or three incubating projects had to fight with that recently (Wave, Cordova i

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread kishore g
As part of Helix incubation, we migrated to Apache Git from github and we havent faced any problems till now and we were able to maintain the history. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > I would prefer GIT, even when I am not a GIT guru. The reason is simple:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, I would prefer GIT, even when I am not a GIT guru. The reason is simple: there is no way to save history when moving from git to svn. At least two or three incubating projects had to fight with that recently (Wave, Cordova i think). Somebody from the Apache committers started an effort to m

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Eric, if you are pleased to get in, don't hesitate, add yourself in the place it is more comfortable for you - doors are open! best, -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Nov 1, 20

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Ioannis Canellos
I'd prefer git myself. -- *Ioannis Canellos* * ** Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com ** Twitter: iocanel *

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Charles
Hi Simo, oh, I forgot that mentors need to be part of IPMC. Mohammad has stepped in, so I suppose you have the quorum. Ping me if you miss one day some mentor, I would then apply to the IPMC. Thx, Eric On 01/11/2012 12:09, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi Eric! sure I added you, I wonder why you guy

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Charles
I am +1 for git. Eric On 01/11/2012 12:04, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi Mohammad, what about having SVN+Git mirror? I personally just need a SCM, don't have a strong preference, so recommendations are more than welcome! What do you suggest? Many thanks in advance, all the best! -Simo http://peopl

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Charles
Hi Marvin, Definitively need to take more time to read the doc. My userid for the incubator wiki is EricCharles. Can you please add me to the ContributorsGroup? Thx, Eric On 01/11/2012 14:15, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Eric Charles wrote: I tried to add myself

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Marvin It is not a login problem I only have my smart phone for now and don't have access to any computer atm that's why I couldn't Sorry for not explaining in details :) Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 Apologies for any typos On Nov 1, 2012 4:15 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > > On Thu, Nov

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Eric Charles wrote: > I tried to add myself to the 'Other interested people' on the wiki, but I > have not the right to edit the page. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > But I can't edit the wiki page at the moment would u please add me

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Eric! sure I added you, I wonder why you guys don't have enough karma to edit that page :( Mentors are allowed to commit, please just let me know what you would prefer! Having you aboard, even if not really active, would still be fine; to be a mentor IIUC you have to be part of the IPMC. have

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Mohammad, what about having SVN+Git mirror? I personally just need a SCM, don't have a strong preference, so recommendations are more than welcome! What do you suggest? Many thanks in advance, all the best! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ h

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Mohammad ! cool!!! this is really good news, thanks a lot and welcome aboard!!! have a nice day, all the best! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Mohamm

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Charles
I tried to add myself to the 'Other interested people' on the wiki, but I have not the right to edit the page. Can you please add me? Unfortunately, I have not enough free slots atm to commit anything, but if you miss one mentor to reach the quorum, you can add me. I will be able to follow th

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi I noticed that the code is hosted on github but u r asking for an svn rep while we can have a git repo, or u don't want to continue using git ? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 Apologies for any typos On Nov 1, 2012 11:59 AM, "Mohammad Nour El-Din" wrote: > > Hi Simone > >I like the idea

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Simone I like the idea pretty much and I would like to be a mentor of this project. But I can't edit the wiki page at the moment would u please add me :) Thanks for bringing the project to ASF Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 Apologies for any typos On Nov 1, 2012 10:30 AM, "Eric Charles" wr

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Charles
I was waiting this since a long time, especially since guiceyfruit is not officially update to guice3. It's great time to do this, as more well-known 3rd parties provide their own extensions [1]. With such a good code base coming from 99soft foundation, we will be good on track. Big +1 and t

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-10-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I like that proposal (you have guessed it as I signed up to mentor). Guice is something cool as I found out recently. And I really like the logging component in there (surprise) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Just giving a post-hurricane nudge. > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-10-31 Thread Donald Whytock
Just giving a post-hurricane nudge. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > I prepared a new proposal[1] for the incubator, concerning the > creation of a new community focused on all aspects of Google Guice > extensions, starting from a rather than small codeba

[DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-10-30 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, I prepared a new proposal[1] for the incubator, concerning the creation of a new community focused on all aspects of Google Guice extensions, starting from a rather than small codebase that I and other friends - already ASF committers/members - would like to donate to the ASF. We sti