Re: [VOTE] Graduate ODE to a Top Level Project

+1 BTW when the project moves over, you should drop my commit rights (assuming I still have them), since I haven't helped at all. If I start working on ODE, I'll earn my rights the normal way. -dain On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: Hi all, This is a vote to recommend A

Re: [doc] [VOTE] Promote http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

+1 This is great! -dain On Jul 8, 2007, at 8:40 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: we've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html for a while now and i think it's good enough now to be promoted from draft status and added to the documentation indexes. status doesn't re

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

Are there some Maven PMC members that could join the IPMC? Maven by it's very nature seem to bring in a lot of projects so in the long run I think it will be in your collective best interestes to get more involved with the IPMC. -dain On May 15, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Tha

Re: [VOTE] approve release of OpenJPA 0.9.7

+1 I can't wait to start using the final release :) -dain On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Michael Dick wrote: We held a vote on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to publish a new release of OpenJPA. The vote email thread is available here: http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE---THIRD-ATTEMPT--publish-openjpa-0.9.7- i

Re: [vote] ActiveMQ Graduation

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Re: [rant] seperate policy change from proposal discussion

On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Brett Porter wrote: +42 (which, I believe, is also the average number of messages per single thread on this list at the moment). Anyway, I'm definitely in agreement with "versioning" policy. Podlings should comply to the latest agreed set at the time of entry, and t

Re: JAXB API target

I wonder if Jakarta would be willing to mange the specs. When I think of Java at Apache, I think of Jakarta so it seems like a natural place to keep specs. Also Jakarta has experience dealing with lots of small code bases. just an idea... -dain On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:08 AM, James Strachan

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

On May 9, 2006, at 2:14 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Riddle: What would Mr. SVN say if he was written in java? /me *ducks* and runs around the corner LSD I think he would say "Gee what should I work on now, since I totally finished writing SVN like 2 years ago" ;) -dain --

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

list name when everything else is "OpenJPA"? geir Craig L Russell wrote: +1 from me. I'd also like to see the wiki and jira set up if we've agreed on the name. Craig On May 8, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 from me. On 5/8/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

Did we decide to do this? I am willing to help make the change if I can. -dain On May 5, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: It's ok, we can deal :) I've chatted with Patrick about it the past as obviously I like OpenFOO as in Open{SSL,SSH,LDAP,EJB,JMS,ORB} etc. H

Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

Can we elide the hyphen out of all of these? It seems like bad form. This will be unbelievably frustrating when OpenEJB enters incubation (very soon now). Since OpenEJB has been around for ever and this project doesn't officially exist yet, how about we take the opportunity to align the

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 4.0-RC1 release of ActiveMQ

/geronimo-activemq-dev/ 200603.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vote result: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-activemq-dev/ 200603.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 +1s and no 0/-1 +1: James Strachan, Jonas Lim, Dain Sundstrom, Alan D. Cabrera, Bruce Snyder, Fritz Oconer, Hiram Chirino, John

Re: [POLICY] Lazy account creation

I think we have two cases here that we need to treat differently: public and private code. In the case of publicly developed code, we can easily check the public source repository and mailing lists and say "hey, these people did contribute to the project". I the case of privately develope

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling

+1 -dain On Mar 19, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: What follows is the official proposal for OpenJPA. The unofficial version can be found here http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenJPAProposal Please vote on acceptance of this proposal. The vote will run 1 week until Su

Re: [POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:25 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 3/19/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:26:04PM +, robert burrell donkin wrote: 3 there is no indication the form which CLA's and CCLA's are relevant. this makes oversight difficult. PROP

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

On Mar 16, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Mads Toftum wrote: -- ensure that the quarterly report is provided to the Incubator PMC +1 - although I wonder if it would be worth letting new projects report each month for the first 3 months? +1 good idea -dain -

Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports

On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Hiram Chirino wrote: If the ActiveMQ / ServiceMix community do decide to go under some other TLP, I'm sure it would not take long for the active participants of the community to asked to Join the TLP's PMC. I would certainly hope that the

Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports

Noel, I think this email represents a good example of mixing official communication of the incubator with your personal agenda to make these top level projects. Emails like this lead to questions like, is this required of all podlings or is this just a requirement because Noel thinks the

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

de if they want to continue incubation and become an Apache TLP or go back to where they were. -dain On Mar 14, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: When AMQ entered the incubator as a sponsored project from Geronimo, the current understanding of incubator rules was

Re: Yoko CORBA ORB Project Started

Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join the discussions! -dain On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I think that Yoko is good to go. ASF Infra has set up the mailing lists, SVN, and created accounts for our new committers as well as adding the existing interested ASF c

Re: Ode Proposal (Sybase BPEL engine donation))

Makes since. Thanks for spending the time to explain this to me. This really helps. Thanks, -dain On Feb 15, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dain, Since you brought this public, I'll post my response along with you original email. I hope you don't mind... I don't, but you mi

Re: Ode Proposal (Sybase BPEL engine donation))

proof rock On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: [trimmed individuals and pmc's from the cc: list] On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:22:23PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Sanjiva, - Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many p

Re: Ode Proposal (Sybase BPEL engine donation))

On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Sanjiva, - Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about this project, how about if we get the Incubator PMC to sponsor this poddling? Agreed. That is what I said to the Geronimo PMC, as well. The Incubator PMC wi

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:40:47PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the contribution as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and o

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: ... Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the ServiceMix community wants to work with the code. Any contributor It should be donate to APACHE. The various people

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've heard nothing to provide a reason for not bringing in the contribution as a standalone podling, which ServiceMix and others can consume. This would be in accord with Ken and Mads. I really detest it when people try to flip the burde

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

After a quick chat with Dims, I think I need to make a quick correction to this email On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration engine

Re: IP clearance page broken

hanks, -dain On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Should be fixed now. How often does the site update? I notice it happens very quickly (a matter of a minute, if even that) these days after you do the '

[IP Clearance] geronimo-1478-xbean

I have committed the ip-clearance for the XBean donation to Geronimo: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi?rev=377477&view=rev If there are no objections, I will commit the code with history on Wednesday February 15th. -dain -

Re: BPEL contribution from Sybase

I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration engine exposed via the BPEL specification. I am not worried about "barriers" to any committers, "accidental too-tight binding" or "UNrelated" mail on mai

Re: IP clearance page broken

href="harmony-16-contribution-classlib-intel.html">harmony-16- contribution-classlib-intel -jean On 2/13/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The all of the links on http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ index.html seem to be broken. I'll try to figure out what

IP clearance page broken

The all of the links on http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ index.html seem to be broken. I'll try to figure out what is wrong, but if someone has an idea or is already working on it, please let me know. -dain - To

Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

Niclas, Although at one time this was true of the transaction manager in Geronimo, we have done some very minor work to make this optional. I designed the Geronimo kernel and consider it a design flaw that the kernel becomes a dependency of the services it manages. This is something we

Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Hiram Chirino wrote: On Feb 1, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: How should the disclaimer be associated? Well, this is a bit of an issue. Why are the plain jars available? To allow automated downloads by Maven? I have an issue with that, since it

Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

+1 -dain On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: +1 Paul On 1/31/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] +1 Release the binary as 4.0-M4 Regards, Hiram On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:06 AM, James Strachan wrote: On the developer list the committers voted to create a miles

Corporations and the incubator

On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:19 PM, Ted Leung wrote: To us an Apache project is an effort of the ASF. To the majority of people out there, being an Apache project (rightly or wrongly) is branding stamp. You might not like it, but that's how many people treat it. And that's why one of the firs

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Excuse me, but don't we have a -1 on this vote thread already? Is the idea to get Dain to change his vote by piling on more +1? Or have I completely missed the Tao of the voting process in Apache? I thought that after a -1 the discussion s

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:13 AM, Leo Simons wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 04:19:21PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote: Give me a break. No. The incubator PMC has "given breaks" before and it let to undesired side effects so now we're not going to do that anymore. I'm not try

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

al, simply state that, but please don't imply that offering an alternate proposal is anything else. If you have specific, issues with my proposal, that will be welcome also. -dain On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Mads Toftum wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:05AM -0800, Dain Sundst

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

-1 I prefer to have a new sub project associated with the TLP community and use a footer to note incubation status. BTW would [EMAIL PROTECTED] or activemq-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] be ok, since they contain the word incubate? -dain On Dec 17, 2005, at 8:49 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Pleas

Re: [doc] "How to graduate from the incubator" topic

On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:46 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: This is part of the "Incubator Guidelines Documentation" project Noel posted at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/ 200512.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] When Eddie and I briefly chatted at ApacheCon we agreed that there

Re: @domain for Incubator mailing lists

My personal preference is to have incubated sub-projects use mailing lists and websites within the TLP containing a notice header that the project is under incubation (and may die). My understanding is that you feel having the email address containing the word "incubator" will warn users,

Re: Incubator Guidelines Documentation

Count me in. -dain On Dec 16, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Jean Anderson and Eddie O'Neil have volunteered to help redact our collected wisdom into a coherent guide. Cliff Schmidt will contribute on the legal/IP side. Henri Yandell has volunteered to review as a guinea pig.

Re: [vote] JDO out of incubation and into the DB project ( was Re: [discussion] JDO out of incubation)

+1 -dain On Dec 4, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I repurposed the discussion thread for continuity to call for a vote. There has been no concern or objection noted in the last two weeks, so I'll assume that people are comfortable with this. So what say ye? [ ] +1 Graduate

Re: Solaris zone for Apache Harmony

+1 On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:02 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 On 12/1/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to ask incubator if we in Apache Harmony can have a solaris zone to use for build and test automation. Will the PMC support a podling asking for such a resource? geir

Re: [VOTE] Directory exiting Incubator

[X] Graduate the Directory Project [ ] Abstain [ ] Keep incubating the Directory Project -dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Apache JDO Resources

On Jan 3, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Craig Russell wrote: Hi Dain, Can you give me a brief rundown on how I can update the JDO JIRA project? I'd like to file bugs, update the roadmap, etc. Do you have an account on jira? I couldn't find one with your name. If you don't, create one and send me your usern

Re: Apache JDO Resources

Serge, I added that like a month ago: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO We really need someone that has permissions to add mailing lists. -dain On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Serge Knystautas wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: A JIRA project Brian, I need to know: - Project name - Project prefix -

Re: [VOTE] Directory project releases

WOW! Great work! +1 release the entire suite -dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 On Dec 27, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: Hello, We at the Directory Project (under incubation here, http://incubator.apache.org/directory) have been preparing

Re: [PROPOSAL] Nutch

+1 -dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 On Dec 20, 2004, at 4:58 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: I propose that the Nutch project be adopted by Apache. The full proposal is at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NutchProposal Please tell me if you have any

Re: JDO Project Resources

On Dec 8, 2004, at 8:21 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:26 AM, Brian McCallister wrote: and a JIRA project? I'll take care or this one... I just call the project Apache JDO with the key JDO for now. We can change the name later but not the key, but JDO should be fine for a

Re: JDO Project Resources

On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:26 AM, Brian McCallister wrote: and a JIRA project? I'll take care or this one... I just call the project Apache JDO with the key JDO for now. We can change the name later but not the key, but JDO should be fine for a long term key. -dain ---

Re: [JDO] Project Name

+1 -dain On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:26 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: +1 for a more creative name than "Apache JDO" ;-). Sanjiva. - Original Message - From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [JDO] Project Name +

Re: Percentage of projects using Subversion was Re: Donation of JAXP 1.3 Sources to Apache

On Oct 19, 2004, at 12:04 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:01 PM -0700 Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm happy w/ svn. I really wish I had some minimal support in IDEA, but "svn stat" and "svn move" make up for it :) Hate t

Re: Incubator FTP Server

The FTP Server project uses JIRA for bug reporting. You can find it here: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10571 --dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 On Oct 14, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Dash, Surajit wrote: Hi, I'm report

Re: Derby code copyright question

Excellent solution! -dain On Sep 24, 2004, at 4:27 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- okey, after discussing this in seven different directions, we have a clear conclusion, which i'll summarise here: 1. the NOTICE file (or NOTICE.txt) gets created if it doesn't

Re: Derby code copyright question

On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:59 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Collective work Copyright 2004 The Apache Software Foundation. [AL 2.0 Template] Derivative work Copyright 2004 Some Other Contributor. Licensed to the ASF under a contributor agreement. Copyright 2004 Contributor Company,

Re: Derby code copyright question

On Sep 15, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Sep 15, 2004, at 2:55 PM, Jennifer B Machovec wrote: I think the short-term (and maybe even long-term) resolution to the copyright notice issue may be having the ASF copyright notice in each main file clearly apply to the whole project. This

Re: Derby code copyright question

Just an idea but, how about someone writes a shell script that does the change and get someone at IBM to execute it? -dain On Sep 15, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: We've just finished a conference with Jennifer. As I understand it, her issues are not with the practice but with how to

Re: Evaluating the 'Open Sourcing' of Daffodil DB

I really don't what you mean by "selected" by the ASF. From what I understand, if you have community and interest from some Apache members it is not hard to get a project incubated. I can say that based on the feature set alone, I would love to integrate Daffodil into Geronimo.

Re: [VOTE] Accept JCR for Incubation

+1 I was hoping we would have a 170 implementation at apache -dain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FtpServer in the incubator - help needed!

Paul, You could try sending an email to the geronimo development list to try to solicit more help. Also on the GBean front, after our discussions in Portland I plan simplifying the component contract for basic (no-lifecycle aware) beans to be the same as Pico. The only thing Geronimo specific

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

[+1] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator -dain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Graduate XMLBeans from Incubator and recommend as top-level project

+1 -dain On Jun 18, 2004, at 8:59 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: The XMLBeans project has been actively developed in incubation for about 10 months. During this time, the user and developer community has continued to grow stronger, both in number, diversity, and degree of cooperation. In addition, the

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

On Jun 14, 2004, at 7:05 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 13, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Tim O'Brien wrote: I'm fairly certain there is sufficient interest for this, but there would need to be a sponsoring entity, champion, and mentor. I don't think this would be a problem, but you should take a look at t

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Geronimo from Incubator and recommend as top-level project

[X] +1 - The Geronimo project has met the requirements for incubation and will be recommended to the board for TLP status -dain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL P

Re: [PROPOSAL] Beehive

+1 -dain On May 17, 2004, at 2:21 AM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: Incubator PMC folks, I would like to propose a new Apache project named Beehive. The proposal can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeehiveProposal. Since the project is being proposed as a TLP with three subprojects, I've req

Re: moving JAM to org.apache.jam

Patrick, I have heard a lot of good things about JAM, but have not looked at it yet. In Geronimo we would like to offer support for annotations in the GBean service layer, but that would mean using a 1.5 VM. I don't see us raising the minimum required VM to 1.5 until J2EE 1.5 comes out (2007-

Who votes for Incubator PMC?

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Re: Project involvement

On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:23 PM, tetsuo wrote: By the way, I really didn't like the name, Geronimo. It remembers me of someone falling from a cliff :) Is there any "J" word that is still unused? Like - Jubilee - Jun (japanese for excellence, genius; pure, innocent; conform to, sta

Re: Geronimo is an EJB container?

y the J2EE spec, we need to easily be able to add them without a total rewrite of a highly coupled system. It will also allow revolutionary new services to be built and tried out without requiring big changes to the base server. Basically good all around... -dain /***** *

Re: J2EE - When

It's open source Bob, so when it is ready. If you would like to contribute, we would love to have you and your friends at jbossgroup.com join. (For those of that don't know, Bob sits on the jbossgroup.com board) -dain /***** * Dain Sundstrom * Partner * Core