I thought it was a good question Leo.
I'm also wondering about the PPMC and the relationship to mentors,
champions, etc. I assumed the PPMC was the proverbial fisherman's committee
being taught how to manage the project of fishermen under Apache rules. For
Ode, Sybase asked James and Allen to me
Even when we were thinking about the ServiceMix project, I was not thinking
that using Sybase Ode with ServiceMix implied a tight binding; there was
agreement to avoid tight couplings and it would go against the grain of JBI
anyway. ServiceMix usage was just an example of a container using Ode.
O
as a BPEL project. (Like "ActiveBPEL")
> >
> > geir
> >
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> >
> >> Bill and Ismael,
> >>
> >> Do be clear, as I understand it from comments such as:
> >>
> >> Ismael: "Intalio [worki
Yes, we appear to be to a point where we can move the Ode project forward on
its own merit if the vote supports it and at that point get to an objective
criteria for determining how to work out the internal details. I'm
specifically avoiding judgements about the merit of any overlapping
implementa
Noel, there are really two aspects to what is being discussed here as I
observe it - willingness to work together and the Apache process. It seems
everybody has exhibited a willingness to work together although from their
own particular vantage point of the same elephant :-).
It's all rather inte
It's all good news for the community at large!
On 2/15/06, Ismael Ghalimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> My name is Ismael Ghalimi, and I am the CEO of Intalio. Our company would
> be
> interested in participating to the Ode project through a donation of the
> PXE
> BPEL 2.0 en
Noel, we do seem to be coming together in prinicipal but it might be best to
achieve our "fresh start" in the practical context of Ode given the support
exhibited by other folks on the submission.
In Apache projects address a certain area of concern (e.g., JAXB, BPEL,
CORBA etc.) but they do so in
Glad to have you with us Matthieu.
I agree with a lot of your assessment; BPEL is really only part of the
discussion (as being one language for describing interactions with
WSDL-based constructs) while service orchestration is the larger picture.
In that regard, I can understand the transaction m
open
discussion.
On 2/14/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> Bill Flood wrote:
> > Geir, approaching Agila was our first avenue. We looked at what they
> had
> > and I initiated several conversations about donating to that incubator
> >
On 2/14/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Why not just bring into Agila and work on it in there?
>
> Bill Flood wrote:
> > Dims,
> >
> > We heard your plea and have moved the proposal through the incubator as
> you
> > suggested. At this
Alan, I would like to throw my name in the hat and become actively involved.
Bill Flood Sybase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/14/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok. Here's the proposal http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OdeProposal.
> Please feel free to comment.
, people from other backgrounds (could be
> > > existing ws committers) working on this code base, bring it up to say
> > > BPEL 2.0 from BPEL1.1, upgrade it to say Axis2 from Axis 1.3
> > > etc.etc...OR are u insisting that this code has to go into servicemix
> >
The license is in the tarball and/or you can see it directly at
ftp://ftp.sybase.com/pub/incoming/wcss/bpe/SourceCodeEvaluationAgreement.txtwithout
dowloading the tarball.
On 2/14/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hash
. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok. Here's the proposal http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OdeProposal.
> Please feel free to comment.
>
> Bill Flood, can you provide us with the list of Sybase developers that
> wish to work on this project? Can you get the Softwa
g
> implementation by assembling good pieces than integrating one out of
> the box. I apologize if this is the source of the current
> "controversy".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matthieu.
>
> On 2/3/06, Bill Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dims, I'll
y? If it is the former, why is there so much
> resistance?
>
> As they say, i'll take your answers off the air.
>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> On 2/3/06, Bill Flood < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dims, I'll take Cory off the hook since he was acting in good faith on
Dims, I'll take Cory off the hook since he was acting in good faith on
behalf of Sybase :-).
As we are learning, there are a variety of ways to work within the Apache
process as long as the community is supportive. From the Sybase
perspective, we are interested in working with a vibrant community
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