On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Not a "strong opinion", but I think that RTC hampers the free-flow of
> ideas, experimentation, evolution, and creativity. It is a damper on
> expressivity. You maneuver bureaucracy to get a change in. CTR is
> about making a change and discuss
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner
> wrote:
> (Apache and RMS saw Java a little differently: an opportunity as
> opposed to a trap. Apache has always been confident in our ability to
> - if necessary
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>> what about dependencies?
>>
>
> I assume you mean libraries / other software on which the project
> you want to package depends. Chances are good most are already packaged
> if not yo
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> IMHO apache needs to be more active at getting it's corpus into the
> distributions. for a long time, the Java Trap stuff was a major social
> barrier but that should dead and gone now. (isn't it?)
Ish. Dusting off my Linux systems m
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Currently, there's one identified mentor on the project (Jim) but we need at
> least another one to active a vote on the project.
Sorry if this has already been discussed, I'm only reading this list
occasionally atm. Have you explore
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> I'm totaly agree with Andrus.
>
> I think that AutoDeploy is complement of Puppet :
> - Puppet can be in charge of the application server core installation, HTTP
> server, etc
> - AutoDeploy comes after to deploy final application in
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>&
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i often think that we don't really do enough fun stuff on graduation...
>
> ...maybe we should revive that idea to grant t-shirt licenses...
t-shirts and associated merch are an important part of a project for
buil
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to take a few minutes to thank everyone involved on our graduation.
> The Apache board
> has approved our graduation and we will begin the post graduation
> transition.
Hurrah!
- Aidan
--
Apache Qpid - World Domin
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Aidan Skinner commented on INCUBATOR-95:
Bueller?
You can really hork thing
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Not accept podlings to release code. Possibly having the "final
> act" of the podling to do a release, which effectuates the graduation.
>
> I am Ok with either of these, since I think that downstream users
> ain't st
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So the first thing that happens post graduation is that you piss off the
> entire community by breaking all backwords compatibility by changing all
> the package names? Ick. Not a good "first experience" once out of the
>
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Do people think that we shouldn't make such a distinction, or that we
> should perhaps explicitly consider "community quality" as a release
> criteria?
>
Getting releases out of the incubator is difficult and subjective en
cations,
and decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with
other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily
a reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does
indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.
--
Aidan Ski
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Aidan Skinner updated INCUBATOR-95:
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Attachment: INCUBATOR-95.patch
Revised patch that uses xargs (tested)
> Rele
Issue Type: Bug
Components: site
Reporter: Aidan Skinner
Attachments: INCUBATOR-95.patch
The chmod command in the release pages is wrong and knackers stuff. The
directory in the checklist is also incorrect.
In addition, the suggested permission scheme
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> Release guidelines contain incorrect permissions, url
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Artifacts can be found at
> http://people.apache.org/~aidan/qpid/M3-RC5/<http://people.apache.org/%7Eaidan/qpid/M3-RC5/>
> Release notes are located here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/j
Hi IPMC'ers,
Qpid M3's release has been on the voting block for a month now, and
we're only one IPMC vote short. Could somebody please take a moment to
have a look at it and vote so it can go out?
Thanks,
- Aidan
--
Apache Qpid - World Domination through Advanced Message Queueing
http://cwiki.a
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you able to summaries this vote so far for us. I believe we still need
> one binding vote.
Since it's a restart I think we still need 3. Unless I'm missing
something the vote currently stands at:
+1's: 3, 0 binding
R
There were some problems with DISCLAIMER so I've rolled RC5 and
would like to restart the vote to release Apache Qpid M3.
I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-08-22:
http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/message/xb3qppr5krtdp43w
There were
There were some problems with the NOTICE and LICENSE files in RC3 (is
there a good guide to this anywhere? having all the individual
licenses in LICENSE seems odd to me...) so I've rolled RC4[1] and
would like to restart the vote to release Apache Qpid M3.
I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-0
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for checking these.
> There should be a KEYS file high up in your directory structure. I didn't
> look too hard for it elsewhere, but just downloaded your key from the public
> keyserv. I later found a KEYS in the
There were a few SNAFUs with headers and LICENSE in the last release,
so I've rolled RC3 for and would like to restart the vote to release
Apache Qpid M3.
I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-08-22:
http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/mess
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is with a building sense of anticipation that I am able to inform
> you that Qpid has voted to release Apache Qpid M3.
>
> I started the vote on 2008-08-22: http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5b
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is with a building sense of anticipation that I am able to inform
> you that Qpid has voted to release Apache Qpid M3.
>
> I started the vote on 2008-08-22: http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5b
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you have any ideas on how to make sure that people read and understand
> the documentation, either the existing or proposed update?
I suspect it's an ordering issue (and conflation of the concept of PMC
and PPMC, rat
It is with a building sense of anticipation that I am able to inform
you that Qpid has voted to release Apache Qpid M3.
I started the vote on 2008-08-22: http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/message/xb3qppr5krtdp43w
There were:
8 +1s (1 of w
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aidan Skinner wrote:
>
>> Qpid has a really awesome piece of code developed for us by Lahiru
>> Gunathilake (one our of GSoC students) we'd like to bring in-tree.
>> He's already
Hi all,
Qpid has a really awesome piece of code developed for us by Lahiru
Gunathilake (one our of GSoC students) we'd like to bring in-tree.
He's already got an ICLA on file, as he's a committer to
ws.apache.org. Do we need to go through the formal code-grant process
to do this? It's a fairly lar
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That leaves QPid as the only project with a missing report. QPid?
I've added ours to the wiki. I'm on holiday atm so will only have
sporadic internet tomorrow.
- Aidan
--
Apache Qpid - World Domination through Advance
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't it just a IP Clearance SVN now once people have their way with
> no distinction at all between incubator and non-incubator code?
>
> What incentives are there left to graduate? How come a little bit of
> pain that
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't think we're
>> particularly wedded to that location, we haven't published mav
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On a related note, is it also ok to create a qpid directory in
>> /www/people.apache.org/repo/m2-incubatin
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Qpid doesn't have a distribution directory on people.apache.org in
>> /www/www.ap
Hi,
Qpid doesn't have a distribution directory on people.apache.org in
/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator, is it ok if I mkdir that so I can
put our M2.1 release there? We have a directory in
/www/archive.apache.org/dist/incubator already, presumably this will
sync ok afterwards?
- Aidan
--
aim
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm pleased to say that Apache Qpid is ready to ask for IPMC approval
> for it's 3rd release from the incubator, M2.1.
This vote has been open for more than 72 hours and got three binding
+1 vot
2008/5/9 Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> ...Our main source distribution is at
>> http://people.apache.org/~aidan/qpid-M2.1-RC6/qpid-1.0-incubating-M2.1-src.tar.gz...
>
I'm pleased to say that Apache Qpid is ready to ask for IPMC approval
for it's 3rd release from the incubator, M2.1.
We voted on the list, recieving 10 +1's and no -1's, archive available
here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-qpid-dev/200804.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
The release
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
>
> > > That seems reasonable
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
> > That seems reasonable since it removes any motivation for
> > "investigation" and is likely to be very rare.
>
> I don't think there is a good way for people to
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Martijn Dashorst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/25/08, Aidan Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was under the impression that it was the committership that was
> > looked at, not the PPMC. Am I misreading "The project
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Martijn Dashorst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is not a question of who is active on the list, but how the
> PMC/committership looks like at graduation. All the names you supplied
> are *not* on the PMC, and therefore don't count for the diversity
> requireme
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand that GiT can be used locally as a layer on top of SVN. I
> believe this gives you most of the perceived benefits of GiT locally
> without the need for a project itself to switch to GiT.
>
> Now, I've never
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