Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > .. should we just drop the > current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documents?... Clearly separating policy from everything else sounds good to me, but the policy docs should then be as concise as possible. Dunno if that c

Re: SGA vs CCLA

2016-11-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Ok, just wanted to make sure... Why isn't my memory updated with "svn commit" ?? Yeah, the CCLA was updated in 2005 with the appendix to make the grant specific. Never mind... On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > Hi Niclas, > > The CCLA is sufficient as a code grant for new

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Gearpump 0.8.2-incubating Release

2016-11-29 Thread Kam Kasravi
The Apache Gearpump team would like to announce the release of Apache Gearpump 0.8.2-incubating. Apache Gearpump (incubating) is a reactive real-time streaming engine based on the micro-service Actor model. It provides extremely high performance stream processing while maintaining millisecond late

Re: SGA vs CCLA

2016-11-29 Thread Ted Dunning
In my experience, the CCLA is too 'strong' for many corporate types since it delegates decision making waaay down in the pecking order with no recourse. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > Hi Niclas, > > The CCLA is sufficient as a code grant for new code bases coming into

Re: SGA vs CCLA

2016-11-29 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Niclas, The CCLA is sufficient as a code grant for new code bases coming into Apache. Of course, committers must submit their own ICLA as well. Why do you consider the CCLA a ‘weak’ agreement? Craig > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > I am seeing on > http://incubator

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Apple
I would be delighted if the answer became cut and dry, modulo the fact that if the cut-and-dry document became a laundry list for everyone's favorite thing, that could move the goalposts pretty far for existing podlings. On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:49 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > So personally I thin

Re: SGA vs CCLA

2016-11-29 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Niclas, > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > I am seeing on > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump > that the CCLA is adequate for new codebases coming in via the Incubator. Is > that really the case? It seems to me to be a rather 'weak'

SGA vs CCLA

2016-11-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I am seeing on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump that the CCLA is adequate for new codebases coming in via the Incubator. Is that really the case? It seems to me to be a rather 'weak' agreement for something that substantial. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Softwa

Re: Incoming Website Changes

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
So personally I think its great to get input from current podlings on a subject like this. I've made some proposed changes on a separate thread, but I almost think between your comments and Roman's comments... should we just drop the current "policy" document and make the guides the policy documen

[DISCUSS] Revisions to Policy

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
All, Based on some of the feedback received, i think we should start putting together some revisions to the Incubator's policy document. The document in reference is at http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html - Acceptance by Incubator Rephrase the first few lines as: If t

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposing Griffin for Apache incubator

2016-11-29 Thread Henry Saputra
Seemed like the discussion is calming down Will send VOTE thread end of day tomorrow. Thanks, Henry On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:30 PM Henry Saputra wrote: > Hi All, > > As the champion for Griffin, I would like to bring up discussion to > bring the project as Apache incubator podling. > > Here i

[DISCUSS] Moving new podling requests to a dedicated form

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
All, Based on some variations in process, there's some initial talk to moving podling bootstrapping from an infra standpoint to a dedicated form. This form would potentially gather: - Podling name - JIRA - Confluence - Mailing lists - Git Repositories - Travis CI - Coveralls other things as time

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3010)
+1 ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 180-5

Re: [DISCUSS] Concur for Apache Incubator

2016-11-29 Thread Jitendra Pandey
Thanks for the feedback. How does Ratis (Latin for raft) sound for the name? A quick search in google doesn¹t show it is used. If this is acceptable, I will update the proposal. We are working on documentation for the user api's as well as the design. We didn¹t consider TLP as the project is very

[RESULT][VOTE] Weex to enter the Apache Incubator

2016-11-29 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Thanks all. This vote passes with 8 binding +1s, 9 non-binding +1s, and no -1. -- Binding +1 votes: Niclas Hedhman Stian Soiland-Reyes John D. Ament Bertrand Delacretaz Willem Jiang Luke Han Stephan Ewen Henry Saputra Non-binding +1 votes: Xiaorui Wang Feng Jia Feng Longda Xinyu Zhou Hust Fxj

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Apple
> You can just make the release on a branch rather than in a fork/mirror. This is what Impala did and Github still happily treats those off-master-branch tags as "releases". - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
The discussion has moved to legal-discuss. I would encourage everyone to join the discussion there https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/db78e1f8fc121d8e6b016d2f61d06ccafebf9fd30b4ec00883c78557@%3Clegal-discuss.apache.org%3E On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:11 PM Tom Barber wrote: > Yeah but the probl

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Tom Barber
Yeah but the problem there harks back to SVN-land where you'd push a tag to run the builds and tests from for VOTE acceptance. Of course a tag in Git is just a hash, so you could just quote a hash instead, but still, personally I think its easier for users to have the tag in place to grab and buil

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Emilian Bold
The subject is a bit odd, but isn't https://github.com/apache an official Apache Software Foundation repository? And https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/releases with the big blue Releases button seems suggestive (or confusing) to downstream users. The solution, due to GitHub's quirk, is t

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Tom Barber
Personally I think thats over doing it a bit on the T&C's, the PPMC hasn't created the artifact, I could create a release of any project and slap it on github and people could download it, doesn't make it "official" though, its just those faux-releases are generated by github themselves not a user.

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:51 PM Jim Apple wrote: > I am not subscribed to that list. > > Can you elaborate on the process of moving release votes to a > different mirror/fork? Our votes, of course, happen on the mailing > list. The tagging happens in the official git repo. We do not have any > of

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > IMHO, the tags on github are not formal releases. The tags may not be but it does creates a release artefact that someone can download. > So its not a violation of ASF release process. How so? It’s creating an artefact that the general public can access and download before the vote is

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Apple
I am not subscribed to that list. Can you elaborate on the process of moving release votes to a different mirror/fork? Our votes, of course, happen on the mailing list. The tagging happens in the official git repo. We do not have any oficially-recognized-yet-unofficial mirrors, and the idea that w

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread John D. Ament
IMHO, the tags on github are not formal releases. The fact that github marks it as a release is just an unfortunate side effect of how github works. So its not a violation of ASF release process. May be good to start a discussion on legal-discuss. Let me know if you're subscribed, we can talk m

Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Apple
> Also the 6.1 release has already been tagged and it available for public > download on github [4] before this vote is finished. This is IMO against > Apache release policy [3] please remove. > 3. http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what > 4. https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/releas

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > RE: the language packs, they aren't officially Apache released as of now - > they are simply on Matt Post's JHU website. While they are hosted externally I see them listed on a download page on your site [1] without any clear indication that they are not offical releases. Thanks, Justin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Chris Mattmann
Justin thanks for your thorough comments. Lewis, Matt & team we should take these back onto dev@j.i.a.o and address them. RE: the language packs, they aren't officially Apache released as of now - they are simply on Matt Post's JHU website. Eventually we would like them to be Apache released, b