+1 (binding)
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:12 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> -Taylor
>
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> This vote will run for at least 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows
> [] +1 Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator
> [] +0 Abstain.
> [] -1 Do no
+1 (binding)
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are described at:
>http://www.apache.org/foundation/vo
+1 (expressing enthusiasm)
Sven
Am 28.09.2016 05:40 schrieb "Michael Müller" <
michael.muel...@mueller-bruehl.de>:
> +1
> --
> Herzliche Grüße, Best regards
> Michael Müller
>
> Twitter: @muellermi
> Blog: blog.mueller-bruehl.de
> Web Development with Java and JSF: leanpub.com/jsf
> Java Lambdas
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Roman Shaposhnik
> wrote:
> >... Greg's proposal, as far as I can see, is predicated on mentors being
> fully
> > aware of an increased load...
>
> And as such might be an interesting filter to make s
+1
--
Herzliche Grüße, Best regards
Michael Müller
Twitter: @muellermi
Blog: blog.mueller-bruehl.de
Web Development with Java and JSF: leanpub.com/jsf
Java Lambdas and Parallel Streams: leanpub.com/lambdas
Am 27. September 2016 22:30:36 MESZ, schrieb Ate Douma :
>Hi everyone,
>
>Now that the di
(Please note the mixed public/private lists)
As a little bit of context: NetBeans is not only a large project with a
complex history, community, and infrastructure, but it's also coming at
a time when the ASF is trying to improve our internal operations,
infrastructure team and systems, and our bu
Yup. I stand corrected and have deleted. :-)
Gj
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:39 AM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> Its generally not good practice to edit the proposal once the vote has
> started.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM Apache Wiki wrote:
>
> > Dear Wiki user,
> >
> > You have subsc
Its generally not good practice to edit the proposal once the vote has
started.
John
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM Apache Wiki wrote:
> Dear Wiki user,
>
> You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Incubator Wiki"
> for change notification.
>
> The "NetBeansProposal" page has be
+1 ... Indicating enthusiasm :-)
On Sep 27, 2016 4:30 PM, "Ate Douma" wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are described at:
>http://www.apache.org/
Yup. We're really lucky to have the group of mentors that we've been given.
They're our first port of call, as observed in the discussion re the
initial committers list.
Thanks, Bertrand, Ate, Jim, Emmanuel, Daniel, and Mark -- there's a long
road ahead and your insights are going to be invaluable
On 2016-09-28 00:50, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync.
In this case, you felt right :-)
Syncing with the mentors would have been appreciated, but I also
see no harm done in Roman's trying to help out.
Thanks Roman!
Ate
Gj
On Wednesday, Sep
Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync.
Gj
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's
> transparency and Ate's diplomacy.
>
> Onwards.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Wedn
>From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's
transparency and Ate's diplomacy.
Onwards.
Gj
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> (removing board@ which has nothing to do with this)
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:39 AM,
(removing board@ which has nothing to do with this)
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> ...Putting aside the amount of personal time I've spent on the phone,
> online, etc. trying to help this community calibrate their expectations
> about transition to ASF, I must say thi
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I would have assumed that if Netbeans stakeholders had any issues
> or question, or requests for clarification, they would have
> pinged either their champion or one of their proposed mentors.
>
> As it is, it is only on this thread, and not
On 2016-09-28 00:08, John D. Ament wrote:
is there anyone on streams to object?
I don't think so, no :-)
Is this going to be more of a reboot or do we expect some amount of going
forward?
Right now, I expect or at least hope some amount of going forward.
Or depending on the outcome of some
I would have assumed that if Netbeans stakeholders had any issues
or question, or requests for clarification, they would have
pinged either their champion or one of their proposed mentors.
As it is, it is only on this thread, and not on any Incubator/vote
thread that I can see that this even came
is there anyone on streams to object?
Is this going to be more of a reboot or do we expect some amount of going
forward?
We had a similar case recently with another podling. There was a
retirement vote, some community voices, when it came to actually reviving
they got part way through and ended u
On 2016-09-25 12:25, Ate Douma wrote:
I'm happy to add and have Suneel join me as mentor for Apache Streams.
I can't find anything about this: Is there any formal process or voting needed
before I make this so?
Without further feedback I'm going to assume lazy consensus and will add
Suneel as
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>... Greg's proposal, as far as I can see, is predicated on mentors being fully
> aware of an increased load...
And as such might be an interesting filter to make sure mentors are
actually going to engage.
-Bertrand
-
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>... Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator...
+1
-Bertrand
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail:
+1 (binding)
LieGrue,
Strub
> Am 27.09.2016 um 22:30 schrieb Ate Douma :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are described at:
> http://www.apache.org/f
Excited yet bit nervous to see how this goes =)
+1 (binding)
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are descri
+1 (binding)
-Taylor
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> This vote will run for at least 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows
> [] +1 Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator
> [] +0 Abstain.
> [] -1 Do not accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator because ...
>
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Donald Szeto wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Sounds good. Since a vote usually take 72 hours, is it okay in practice to
> "pipeline them"? What I mean is to let the current IPMC vote sits here,
> while the project PMC creates a new RC and start voting on it? Or must they
>
Hi Justin,
Sounds good. Since a vote usually take 72 hours, is it okay in practice to
"pipeline them"? What I mean is to let the current IPMC vote sits here,
while the project PMC creates a new RC and start voting on it? Or must they
be mutually exclusive, i.e. only one could exist at any time? I
Hi,
> Meanwhile, if we want to fix it by unbundling the photos (which are
> jCarousel examples that do not affect its functionality), do we need to go
> through another round of PredictionIO voting before coming back to IPMC?
Yes that is needed, but given the changes are minimal it should be easy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
>
>> For example, I'm really curious whether the current cast of NetBeans
>> mentors are really aware of the IP review workload that is going to hit
>> them
>> once NetBeans trie
+1 (binding) and welcome aboard!
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:30 PM Ate Douma wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
> please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
>
> The ASF voting rules are described at:
> http://www.apach
> This vote will run for at least 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows
> [ X ] +1 Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator
> [] +0 Abstain.
> [] -1 Do not accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator because …
i.e. +1 (Binding).
Greg Trasuk
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> Hi ever
Hi everyone,
Now that the discussion thread on the NetBeans Proposal has ended,
please vote on accepting NetBeans into the Apache Incubator.
The ASF voting rules are described at:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator podling is a majority v
Oh, I forgot to mention - to check the RAT report, you can use the
script in bin/check-rat-report.py and the list of files to exclude
from bin/rat_exclude_files.txt
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Jim Apple wrote:
> The Impala PPMC has voted to release 2.7.0 release candidate 3:
>
> Proposal:
>
Hi Ate!
Note that the proposed handling is only a 'best practice' tip. It is _not_
mandated. No need to veto the release just because they do it different.
If a project does -RCx then it's legally also fine for the ASF. It is just much
more work and possibly confusing to users (which browse th
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
If can send out the vote mail in about an hour or so if everyone is OK.
>
Bottom line -- we've discussed a lot already and we'll be discussing a lot
more during incubation.
The NetBeans community is large and diverse. Some might have less of an
u
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> For example, I'm really curious whether the current cast of NetBeans
> mentors are really aware of the IP review workload that is going to hit
> them
> once NetBeans tries to produce its first official Apache Release.
In that regard, I'
Hi Mark,
On 2016-09-27 09:44, Mark Struberg wrote:
Hi Ate!
It's quite natural that many other projects just point to DeltaSpike.
DS was in 2011 amongst the very first projects using GIT at the ASF.
One of the results of this effort (together with the CouchDB community) was
following document
On 2016-09-27 18:12, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it will be
useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
etc etc...
Ok we can add that info
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the past) has demonstrated a
> significant "problem" with trying to establish an appropriate list of
> initial committers. There are many people that want to be on, for various
> reasons. Because they
Hi Justin,
Thank you so much for your detailed review! I am clarifying the
redistribution rights with the photographer.
Meanwhile, if we want to fix it by unbundling the photos (which are
jCarousel examples that do not affect its functionality), do we need to go
through another round of Predictio
I'm very OK with starting the vote. I'd recommend leaving this to the
Apache community as much as possible, everyone from NetBeans is extremely
positive about all this so let's be reticent in this specific process, and
enable the Apache community to work through all this. That would be my
advise at
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
>
>> Just to make sure that my argument is clearly stated let me make two points
>> very, very explicitly:
>>1. I would expect the folks bringing NetBeans to ASF Incubator to
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> wrote:
>> ...The vote on this proposal is explicitly not tied to contact being
>> made to everyone for inclusion on the initial contributors list...
>
> I agree with that, I
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> ...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it will be
> useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
> etc etc...
Ok we can add that info in concise form once the vote thread starts.
B
On 9/27/16, 8:38 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase"
wrote:
>In Apache Geode, we are trying to be liberal about bringing in new
>committers. Anyone who shows an interest, and a series of well formatted
>pull requests that follow are code guidelines are pretty quickly nominated
>to be
On Sep 27, 2016 10:44 AM, "Gregory Chase" wrote:
>
> Having been through this with Apache Geode, I like the idea of paying
> homage to emeritus committers in the proposal and history of the
> technology. If you start with a rule of providing committer privileges to
> those who have directly commi
It's a radical proposal - but I think it would only work well where
the champion/mentors are also from same community - e.g. the kind of
"Already lots of Apache folks" projects that we previously suggested
for the straight-to-PLP mode. There's also the danger of the project
to seem hostile to non-A
I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it will be
useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
etc etc. From the NetBeans side of things, we're a large community and lots
of us are following all this and maybe someone can point us Apache newbies
+0.5 I like this idea a lot (but there are governance problems to be solved).
I have long been frustrated at folks who jump on the bandwagon and become
initial committers then play no further part in the project.
Do inactive committers harm the project? No, of course they don’t. But it isn’t
f
In Apache Geode, we are trying to be liberal about bringing in new
committers. Anyone who shows an interest, and a series of well formatted
pull requests that follow are code guidelines are pretty quickly nominated
to become committers.
This would make it very easy for emeritus contributors to bec
The Impala PPMC has voted to release 2.7.0 release candidate 3:
Proposal:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-impala-dev/201609.mbox/%3CCAC-pSX36EbVohLNXdg7pV7i3gkv5_JajZ8ekbZM9OguOi9fH0Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E
Mirror:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/530925a9689157059d6de31a4e3
It is an interesting idea. I thought that the initial committers list
provided the set of people who could define the merit to approve other new
committers. The mentors may not be familiar enough with the technology
and people to make the decision with the "Flavor" the community wants.
The only
+1
Ate
On 2016-09-27 14:23, Mark Struberg wrote:
+1
LieGrue,
strub
On Tuesday, 27 September 2016, 14:11, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM, John D. Ament
wrote:
Sooo does anyone feel that this needs to wait longer before starting a
vote?..
I'm +1 f
Having been through this with Apache Geode, I like the idea of paying
homage to emeritus committers in the proposal and history of the
technology. If you start with a rule of providing committer privileges to
those who have directly committed to the project in the last two or three
years, and a li
Le 27/09/16 à 13:25, Greg Stein a écrit :
> The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the past) has demonstrated a
> significant "problem" with trying to establish an appropriate list of
> initial committers. There are many people that want to be on, for various
> reasons. Because they are commit
+1
LieGrue,
strub
> On Tuesday, 27 September 2016, 14:11, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM, John D. Ament
> wrote:
>
>> Sooo does anyone feel that this needs to wait longer before starting a
>> vote?..
>
> I'm +1 for starting the vote.
>
> -Bertran
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Sooo does anyone feel that this needs to wait longer before starting a
> vote?..
I'm +1 for starting the vote.
-Bertrand
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Sooo does anyone feel that this needs to wait longer before starting a
vote?
John
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:06 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM, John D. Ament
> wrote:
>
> > I see moving plugins.netbeans.org out of Oracle control as being a
> > graduation goal, not
Its not a bad idea at all, except you're now relying on already stretched
too thin mentors to help bootstrap the podling.
And since we've agreed that champion can roll off once the podling has been
accepted (since they don't have to be a mentor) you're limiting that a bit
further.
John
On Tue, S
Considering the effort that went into this and the fact that we had just
reached a point where we could move on past this list, I hope you start
using this new rule for the next project submitted.
Pe marți, 27 septembrie 2016, Greg Stein a scris:
> The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the
The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the past) has demonstrated a
significant "problem" with trying to establish an appropriate list of
initial committers. There are many people that want to be on, for various
reasons. Because they are committers, recent or historic. Or they want the
"presti
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> I see moving plugins.netbeans.org out of Oracle control as being a
> graduation goal, not a start incubation goal.
>
Agreed, with both my IPMC and InfraAdmin "hats" on my head.
I see these issues having time within incubation to be sorte
OpenJDK 1.8.0 from Ubuntu 16.04.
Java version: 1.8.0_91, vendor: Oracle Corporation
It seems it was a threading issue as I was using the optimistic -T1.0C
- which of course is not required to work. My fault!
The build works now (but of course takes a bit longer :).
[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
My vote
That's weird. Which Java version do you exactly use?
I did run the full build with java7 and it passed perfectly fine.
LieGrue,
strub
On Tuesday, 27 September 2016, 12:24, Stian Soiland-Reyes
wrote:
>-0 (non-binding) -- changes my previous -1 vote after dist/ was populated.
>
>I'm afraid it'
-0 (non-binding) -- changes my previous -1 vote after dist/ was populated.
I'm afraid it's not positive vote from me as the unit tests were
failing the build, otherwise I would say +1. But feel free to ignore
this vote :)
-1 .md5 .sha1 missing from dist
+1 valid .asc signature
-1 KEYS file mis
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> ...Together with Bertrand and the organizations volunteering to
> host this service, we'll need to find terms of agreement -- which I think
> we should try to model on those of Sonatype in relation to Apache Maven...
As Mark suggested ea
Hi,
The Unomi community has voted for the release of Apache Unomi 1.1.0
(incubating).
The vote thread can be found at :
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-unomi-dev/201609.mbox/%3CCAKm8eOQmMA9TpEvvh5OGjXuQ4a3kibf%2BDxCUvYFuDPKzwBLeVw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
and the result is at:
http
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> ...All the above info can be added to the proposal, if this is desirable,..
I don't think that's needed, your explanations here are now recorded
in the archives of this public list, that's good enough IMO.
-Bertrand
--
+1
I assume we will have a 'contribute' section on the official site which
explains this and also educate people to please mention their previous
contributions on their first contact on the Apache NetBeans mailing lists. That
way we can easily pick up people with merit that predates the ASF tim
Le 26/09/16 à 22:49, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit :
> Thankl of the below has been done.
>
> Some more are being added. However at this point the more we add the more
> insulting to those we omit. We've done our best. The list is strong. None
> will commit nothing, all have a history of years being ac
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Just to make sure that my argument is clearly stated let me make two points
> very, very explicitly:
>1. I would expect the folks bringing NetBeans to ASF Incubator to have
> had
> spent reasonable amount of time trying to contact
PS: back then I also summed up information about the difference between SVN and
GIT regarding handling from a user pov
http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/SVNvsGIT
Most of it is nowadays common knowledge I hope, but some might still find it
useful.
LieGrue,
strub
> On Tuesday, 27 September 2016
Hi Ate!
It's quite natural that many other projects just point to DeltaSpike.
DS was in 2011 amongst the very first projects using GIT at the ASF.
One of the results of this effort (together with the CouchDB community) was
following document
http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Git_At_Apache_Guide
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