Re: Adopting non-ASF AL projects (was Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal)

2015-11-26 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/26/15, 4:47 PM, "Ted Dunning" wrote: >There are two issues, one is the SGA and the other is the contributor >license agreements (ICLA) that are desirable to make sure that all of the >contributors understood that they were contributing under ASL. OK, so I think you are saying that we can

Re: Adopting non-ASF AL projects (was Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal)

2015-11-26 Thread Ted Dunning
There are two issues, one is the SGA and the other is the contributor license agreements (ICLA) that are desirable to make sure that all of the contributors understood that they were contributing under ASL. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:00 A

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) I think that forcing experienced community developers into one model or the other is unnecessary. Let them in as they would like. On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > -1 (binding) > > Starting with RTC is a poor way to attract new community members. I'd like > to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 binding On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Come to think of it a bit more, yes I am not satisfied with the outcome of > the CTR/RTC exchange in the project. > > Hence changing my vote to > -1 [binding] > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:47AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 (binding) > On Nov 26, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > > Come to think of it a bit more, yes I am not satisfied with the outcome of > the CTR/RTC exchange in the project. > > Hence changing my vote to > -1 [binding] > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:47AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrot

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Tony Kurc
+1 (non-binding) On Nov 26, 2015 3:04 PM, "Joe Witt" wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Hitesh Shah wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > > > — Hitesh > > > > On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems t

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Joe Witt
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Hitesh Shah wrote: > +1 (binding) > > — Hitesh > > On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down, so I'd like to >> call a VOTE on acceptance of Kudu into the ASF I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Joe Witt
+1 (non-binding) On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Come to think of it a bit more, yes I am not satisfied with the outcome of > the CTR/RTC exchange in the project. > > Hence changing my vote to > -1 [binding] > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:47AM, Konstantin Boudnik wro

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Come to think of it a bit more, yes I am not satisfied with the outcome of the CTR/RTC exchange in the project. Hence changing my vote to -1 [binding] On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:47AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > -0 [binding] > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 01:03PM, Henry Robinson wrote: > > Hi - >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
-0 [binding] On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 01:03PM, Henry Robinson wrote: > Hi - > > The [DISCUSS] thread has been quiet for a few days, so I think there's been > sufficient opportunity for discussion around our proposal to bring Impala > to the ASF Incubator. > > I'd like to call a VOTE on that propo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Torii into Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Hitesh Shah
+1 (binding) — Hitesh On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > After initial discussion (under the name Spark-Kernel), please vote on the > acceptance of Torii Project for incubation at the Apache Incubator. The > full proposal is > available at the end of this message and on the w

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Harbs wrote: >... > So technically, the review is after the commit (to a central staging > repo), but it’s mandatory before the commit is officially accepted and will > be checked out from the (central approved) repo. It’s an interesting > approach. > > (I realiz

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Harbs
FWIW: I just now looked at Gerrit (being it’s what sparked this discussion) and I think that it falls in that category between classic CTR and RTC. I was reading this document which gives an overview.[1] The review there happens IN the central repo, but it’s mandatory before content is checked

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
This saga jumped the shark right about the time Mary the sonnetor weighted in. On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Ralph Goers wrote: > Sorry Jim. As an attempt to shut down a thread, this wasn't a very good > one. Not a single poster in this thread has a problem with the word, or > the concept of,

[VOTE] Accept Torii into Apache Incubator

2015-11-26 Thread Luciano Resende
After initial discussion (under the name Spark-Kernel), please vote on the acceptance of Torii Project for incubation at the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available at the end of this message and on the wiki at : https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ToriiProposal Please cast your votes: [

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Ralph Goers
Sorry Jim. As an attempt to shut down a thread, this wasn't a very good one. Not a single poster in this thread has a problem with the word, or the concept of, "review". It is the process that is the issue and what the impact of that process is upon a community. Ralph > On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
OK, ok... we are at diminishing returns here with people no longer, imo, listening to what others are saying... We have, as a foundation, and HAVE HAD RTC and CTR for years and decades. There are times when one or the other are Good and when they are Bad. Those exact times will, generally, vary de

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Greg Stein
I concur. Chris' email is very insightful, and very well written. It is great food for thought, for each workflow approach. Thanks, Chris. ... food.. thx... Happy Thanksgiving! -g On Nov 26, 2015 4:28 AM, "Steve Loughran" wrote: > > This is really good essay on the whole topic. I don't think I'

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Steve Loughran
This is really good essay on the whole topic. I don't think I've seen a post on any asf list which uses both "existential threat" and "desiderata". I also like the implication that RTC is a function of the complexity of the team, rather than just the code. Every project I've worked on —open or

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Wednesday 25 November 2015, Steve Loughran wrote: > > > On 22 Nov 2015, at 22:34, Branko Čibej > > wrote: > > > > > > The major question here, for me, is: if the project is RTC, then why > > would I make an effort to become a committer if at the end of the day > > I'm still not trusted to know

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Wednesday 25 November 2015, Steve Loughran wrote: > > > On 22 Nov 2015, at 22:34, Branko Čibej > > wrote: > > > > > > The major question here, for me, is: if the project is RTC, then why > > would I make an effort to become a committer if at the end of the day > > I'm still not trusted to know