Re: Give me wiki write access

2015-08-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > Please give me write access on https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/! > Name: DanielDekany Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apach

Give me wiki write access

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Dekany
Please give me write access on https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/! Name: DanielDekany (I'm an initial comitter at FreeMarker: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html) -- Thanks, Daniel Dekany - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: Need to be able to edit a page on wiki.apache.org

2015-08-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Amol Kekre wrote: > I want to create a wiki page for a proposal to incubate Apex with ASF. Can > someone give me edit access for the following page? > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApexProposal > > For those unfamiliar with Apex; it is an unified batch and str

Need to be able to edit a page on wiki.apache.org

2015-08-03 Thread Amol Kekre
I want to create a wiki page for a proposal to incubate Apex with ASF. Can someone give me edit access for the following page? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApexProposal For those unfamiliar with Apex; it is an unified batch and stream processing compute platform native to Yarn that was open s

Re: Reform of Incubator

2015-08-03 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 11:36AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > > wrote: > >> ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering > >> PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board mak

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > > ​ > In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect of IPMC > ​> ​ > feeling in need to justify why it exists by micromanaging podlings. > > I've been through incubation as a mentor on Phoenix, Nifi, and now getting >

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Andy Seaborne
+1 I haven't experienced micromanagement as a mentor. Quite the opposite. If it all comes down the mentors and with the AWOL rate the mentoring can become a very few opinions. I think tegher is an implicit assumption of experienced mentors here. If more is pushed down to the mentors, I've

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
> ​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect of IPMC ​> ​ feeling in need to justify why it exists by micromanaging podlings. I've been through incubation as a mentor on Phoenix, Nifi, and now getting up to speed on Trafodion, I have not seen micromanagement of podlings.

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Branko Čibej
On 03.08.2015 21:51, Julian Hyde wrote: > In my experience incubating Calcite, the “overhead” was mostly the > infrastructure and process, not politics. (If you think the incubator is > political, you haven’t seen politics…) The process is necessary (mostly) to > ensure clean IP. The infrastruct

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Branko Čibej
On 03.08.2015 18:36, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > It's not the central Incubator folks like our regular release > reviewers and report contributors who invent these extra criteria Sorry but this has to be said: I see folks on this list inventing policy (or rather, confusing opinion and policy) all the

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-08-03 21:13, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Yup. I believe this to be an unfortunate (at least from my standpoint) but and extremely fair observation. As far as I'm concerned the issue of R&Rs of IPMC is in a state of a stalemate right now. We clearly have a "everything's fine lets just add m

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Julian Hyde
In my experience incubating Calcite, the “overhead” was mostly the infrastructure and process, not politics. (If you think the incubator is political, you haven’t seen politics…) The process is necessary (mostly) to ensure clean IP. The infrastructure, less so. So, if we’re talking about how to

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-03 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > Hi all, > > some of the general discussion recently made me wonder about one point with > regards to binary distributions. It was pointed out, that a binary > distribution of a source code release has to be handled like a release > itself,

RE: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Ross Gardler
" This is that proverbial "political overhead" that a lot of folks are accusing ASF of and cite as a reason of not going into the foundation. Which is grossly unfair at the board level, but unfortunately seems to be very true at IPMC level today." +1000 -Original Message- From: shaposh

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but >> it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of >> a week ago: what would be the effective way to change

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering >> PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... > > How is that different from the status quo where a podli

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:18 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > I wonder how much of the silence is a notion of "I don't want to be > accountable if something goes wrong in this podling." Right, but that same concern could be applied to every single TLP and yet the board seems to do the right thing with t

RE: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 09:37 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator) [ ... ] It's not the central Incubator folks l

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik >> wrote: >> > ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering >> > PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering > > PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... > > How is that different from the status quo where a

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-03 Thread Alex Harui
OK, I’ll bite. Do you have links to where you got this information? -Alex On 8/3/15, 2:55 AM, "Jochen Theodorou" wrote: >Hi all, > >some of the general discussion recently made me wonder about one point >with regards to binary distributions. It was pointed out, that a binary >distribution of a

Incubator PMC/Board report for Aug 2015 ([ppmc])

2015-08-03 Thread Marvin
Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:30 am PST. The report for your podling will

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread Dhaval Gmail
Congratulations on achieving this milestone and good luck for many more to achieve in near future! Best, Dhaval "Sent from my iPhone, plaese excuse any typos :)" > On Aug 3, 2015, at 1:29 AM, Rajat Gupta wrote: > > congrats guys > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Luke Han wrote: >> Co

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread madhuka udantha
Congratulation!! +1 On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM, moon soo Lee wrote: > Hi, > > The Apache Zeppelin team is proud to annouce the first release of Zeppelin > inside the Apache incubator: 0.5.0-incubating. > > Apache Zeppelin is a web-based notebook that enables interactive data > analytics wit

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread Rajat Gupta
congrats guys On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Luke Han wrote: > Congratulations! > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:43 AM, 김영우 wrote: > >> Congratulations! >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:08 PM, moon soo Lee wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > The Apache Zeppelin team is proud to annouce the first rele

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread Jongyoul Lee
Good job!! On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Nihal Bhagchandani < nihal_bhagchand...@yahoo.com> wrote: > that is a great news guys > > thumbs up to the whole team... > > Nihal > > > > On Saturday, 1 August 2015 11:42 AM, IT CTO wrote: > > > Well done! Great team effort and great leadership by

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread IT CTO
Well done! Great team effort and great leadership by Moon. 0.6 here we come! Eran בתאריך שבת, 1 באוג׳ 2015, 09:08 מאת moon soo Lee : > Hi, > > The Apache Zeppelin team is proud to annouce the first release of Zeppelin > inside the Apache incubator: 0.5.0-incubating. > > Apache Zeppelin is a web-b

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating released

2015-08-03 Thread Nihal Bhagchandani
that is a great news guys thumbs up to the whole team... Nihal On Saturday, 1 August 2015 11:42 AM, IT CTO wrote: Well done! Great team effort and great leadership by Moon. 0.6 here we come! Eran בתאריך שבת, 1 באוג׳ 2015, 09:08 מאת moon soo Lee : Hi, The Apache Zeppelin team is

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but > it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of > a week ago: what would be the effective way to change the > status quo around IPMC an make it more board like? >

apache binary distributions

2015-08-03 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Hi all, some of the general discussion recently made me wonder about one point with regards to binary distributions. It was pointed out, that a binary distribution of a source code release has to be handled like a release itself, and that there should be no download source of it outside of ap

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-08-03 09:37, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... How is that different from the status quo where a podling with active ment

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering > PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... How is that different from the status quo where a podling with active mentors can have their releases +1ed by their mentors

Re: Request to add username in Incubator Wiki

2015-08-03 Thread Atri Sharma
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Atri Sharma wrote: > > > Requesting adding of username AtriSharma to Incubator wiki > ContributorGroup. > > Done. > > Marvin Humphrey > > Thanks.

Re: Request to add username in Incubator Wiki

2015-08-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Atri Sharma wrote: > Requesting adding of username AtriSharma to Incubator wiki ContributorGroup. Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For ad

Request to add username in Incubator Wiki

2015-08-03 Thread Atri Sharma
Hi, Requesting adding of username AtriSharma to Incubator wiki ContributorGroup. -- Regards, Atri *l'apprenant*