On May 8, 2013, at 8:06 PM, David Crossley wrote:
> Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
>
> At
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/
>
> There are various discussions in the Incubator archives about how the
>
Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
At
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/
There are various discussions in the Incubator archives about how the
data lists (for mail addresses for each project due to report each mon
On May 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> Will a lazy consensus IPMC time be as motivating (for taking time to verify
> releases) as the required 3rd vote?
Sebb is awesome. I think people make the effort because they want to. The 72
hour period allow for people to participate if th
On May 8, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> One last suggested refinement:
>
> At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
> third is generally a backup for the others in a transition period, such
> as one of the mentors looking to shed their
Alan Cabrera created PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32:
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Summary: Establish whether "Apache MRQL" is a suitable name
Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-32
If I'm a king of a dream forest...
I think how to improve attractiveness of free software to contributors. It
is no longer a cool trend. How about find some resources (maybe internal
ones) to make people strengthen the community by creative reasons? Business
reasons are short living (compared to c
Thanks Suresh, this is exactly what I needed! I'm able to commit now.
Cheers!
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Thanks Suresh!
>
> ++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senio
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:40:59AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> >
> > On May 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chip Childers
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM,
On May 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
One last suggested refinement:
At least two ment
On May 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>
>> On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
>>> One last suggested refinement:
>>>
>>> At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
>>> third
On May 8, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
>> Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A
>> mentor is free to become inactive but must explicitly state this else the
>> mentor risks being removed for not performing their duties. Podlings that
>> do not have
Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live?
Regards,
Alan
On May 7, 2013, at 7:25 PM, David Crossley wrote:
> Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing!
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013
>>
>> Ambari
>> Blur
>> Del
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
> > One last suggested refinement:
> >
> > At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
> > third is generally a backup for the others in a transition per
On May 8, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
> except, of course, me, because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would
> become emeritus mentors that can be reinstated merely by asking.
There is a fundamental flaw he
On May 8, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
> Mostly a lurker, but a quick reply...
>
> And, in order to facilitate continuous improvement over time, the incubator
> as a whole could periodically survey random incubator committers and
> determine whether they're getting the support they
On May 8, 2013, at 2:53 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>> ...
>> Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A
>> mentor is free to become inactive but must explicitly
>> state this else the mentor risks being removed for
Mostly a lurker, but a quick reply...
On 5/8/13 2:53 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
...
Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A mentor
is free to become inactive but must explicitly
state this else the mentor risks be
On May 8, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> The probationary PMC proposal of Chris' which Greg is championing
> gives teeth to the whole process. That's what the IPMC needs - teeth.
Shuttling the kids off to the grandparents, even if they have all their teeth,
is not the way to go. :)
On May 8, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> ...I continue to hope for consensus on the thing I wrote...
>
> I had another look at
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals and I
> like it.
>
>
On May 8, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>> ...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
>> except, of course, me,
>> because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become emeritus mentors
>>
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> ...I continue to hope for consensus on the thing I wrote...
I had another look at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals and I
like it.
While asking all podlings to confirm their current champion (which
your pro
I perceive here that we have reached a favorite knot: the tension
between 'mentor as coach' and 'mentor as supervisor'.
This PMC's job, as delegated by the board, is supervision. If the
mentors don't supervise, who will?
On the other hand, the very term, 'mentor', is much more suggestive of
'coac
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> ...
> Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors. A mentor
> is free to become inactive but must explicitly
> state this else the mentor risks being removed for not performing their
> duties.
I like it all. A lot.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> ...I've made a proposal for giving the IPMC teeth but it hasn't gained
> support..
URL?
> ...In the absence of something else with teeth then I'm +1 for
> probationary TLPs as proposed by Chris as long as we stop accepting
> projects that ar
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>>
>> Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt.
>>
>> In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if
>> those discussions drove some of us to d
On 8 May 2013 01:01, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>> ...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
>> except, of course, me,
>> because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become emeritus mentors
>> that
>> c
On 7 May 2013 21:15, Greg Stein wrote:
> On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from
> Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would
> effectively be a "TLP on probation". The Champion, Mentors, and Board
> would be providing oversight.
>
> I would posit th
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Tom Everett wrote:
> ...I haven't made a
> significant effort to build a community around Pragmatach, mainly because
> I'm not familiar with how to announce it, where, and to whom...
The best way to build a community is to write enough initial code to
demonstrate y
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> ...If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All
> except, of course, me,
> because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become emeritus mentors
> that
> can be reinstated merely by asking
An annual "spring
If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All except,
of course, me, because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become
emeritus mentors that can be reinstated merely by asking.
Those emeritus mentors who wish to remain mentors must acknowledge that they
will per
Thanks Suresh!
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NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
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