Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ate Douma
Thanks many times Noel! This also makes (for me) voting for Jukka again a proper process. I'm therefore reconfirming my earlier retracted vote for Jukka, +1 Ate On 02/10/2012 03:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining f

Re:[VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (in

RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Thank you Noel. Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 10, 2012 2:32 AM, "Noel J. Bergman" wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > > I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks > > (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the >

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
With Noel's email, this vote makes sense now. +1 to Jukka (binding) Cheers, Andrus On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including m

Re: subversion committer access for podding project

2012-02-09 Thread Eric Yang
Thanks Craig. :) regards, Eric On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Eric, > > This request was completed on January 20 based on your request. > > Craig > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Yang wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> The result thread was sent to private@incubato

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Edward J. Yoon
+1 to Jukka Zitting! (non-binding) On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > +1 to Jukka. Many Many Thanks to Noel for guiding us all these years. > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Ross Gardler wrote: >> >>> I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it look

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to Jukka. Many Many Thanks to Noel for guiding us all these years. On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > >> I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks >> (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the >> follow

RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ross Gardler wrote: > I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks > (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the > following nominee:" Where is the mail from Noel saying he is no longer > standing? Have I missed something? There wasn't one. I was trave

RE: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Noel J. Bergman
+1 --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Podling graduation requirements and the incubation yes, incubator no proposal

2012-02-09 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Martijn Dashorst wrote on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 22:19:45 +0100: > - Project website has been created - Project website complies with trademarks@ guidelines (Did you copy your list from somewhere? If so, I'll add that bullet to it.)

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Tim Williams
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >>> +1 (binding) >> >> +1 (binding) >> >>> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above >> effectively turned thi

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >>> +1 (binding) >> >> +1 (binding) >> >>> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above >> effectively turned thi

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 9, 2012 7:27 PM, "Doug Cutting" wrote: > > On 02/09/2012 08:39 AM, sebb wrote: > > In case it's not obvious, I agree with Ross, Andrus and Marcel - I > > think the current VOTE thread is invalid and should be cancelled. > > I do

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> +1 (binding) > > +1 (binding) > >> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above > effectively turned this into a single issue question: is now the time > for Noah to be

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Doug Cutting
On 02/09/2012 08:39 AM, sebb wrote: > In case it's not obvious, I agree with Ross, Andrus and Marcel - I > think the current VOTE thread is invalid and should be cancelled. I don't see how it is invalid. Chris might have added more choices or invited more discussion first, but he can call a vote.

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Doug Cutting
+1 Doug On 02/09/2012 07:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the > running > have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 for Jukka As Sam said, the others are good candidates as well and Noel also did a wonderful job all the years. I expect that Jukka follows in his foot steps - maybe with a slight bit more presence ;) LieGrue, strub - Original Message - > From: Sam Ruby > To: general@incubator.apa

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > +1 (binding) +1 (binding) >From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above effectively turned this into a single issue question: is now the time for Noah to be replaced by Jukka? There are no question that all four individ

Re: Mentors as the core of the IPMC

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Struberg
Imo it's always good to have a few pair of (active!) eyes having oversight. It's just simply too easy to miss something important - even for a long-time committed mentor. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - > From: Jim Jagielski > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Frid

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving forward

2012-02-09 Thread Doug Cutting
On 02/09/2012 07:42 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > 2. I wrote an Incubator deconstruction proposal here: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorDeconstructionProposal > > I still wholly believe in the proposal and that it should be implemented. > It contains a series of (potentially re

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/9/2012 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > (1) Why is the IPMC different from other PMCs and holding a personnel VOTEs > on a public ML? Just to clarify this single issue; by rights, adding committers and committee members is a personal issue about those individuals. But choosing a represent

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Dave Fisher
I have observations (1) Why is the IPMC different from other PMCs and holding a personnel VOTEs on a public ML? (2) Why is there such a hurry to call a [VOTE] without a prior [DISCUSS]? (3) Why can't Chris start new threads by using New Message rather than a reply to a prior thread with a sub

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/9/2012 10:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >> >> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates >> and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd. >> > > Agreed. > > I suggest that this VO

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread sebb
On 9 February 2012 17:11, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > >> On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >>

[jira] [Resolved] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-5) Establish Whether "Apache Rave" would be a Suitable Name

2012-02-09 Thread Matt Franklin (Resolved) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-5?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Matt Franklin resolved PODLINGNAMESEARCH-5. --- Resolution: Fixed After examination of the results of this search an

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >>> >>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >>> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ate Douma
On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ate Douma
On 02/09/2012 05:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: ...I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election, with all candidates be done... Agreed - I think Chris assumed there was only one candidate, but it's just an assumption AFAICS

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >> >> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates >> and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd. >> > > Agreed. > > I suggest tha

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > ...I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election, > with all candidates be done... Agreed - I think Chris assumed there was only one candidate, but it's just an assumption AFAICS. -Bertrand -

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates and > see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd. > Agreed. I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election, with all candidates b

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread sebb
On 9 February 2012 16:32, Marcel Offermans wrote: > On Feb 9, 2012, at 17:10 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >>> Hi Ross, >>> >>> Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair. >>> If this VOTE isn't successful, then

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Marcel Offermans
On Feb 9, 2012, at 17:10 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > >> Hi Ross, >> >> Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair. >> If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If >> you want to explicitly cal

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ramirez, Paul M (388J)
+1 (binding) Thanks, Paul On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the > running > have aligned beyond the fo

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > By July we should then have a > pretty accurate record of progress throughout the entire Incubator, > including a clear list of podlings that are stuck and need help. +1 - Sam Ruby --

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Ross, > > Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair. > If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If > you want to explicitly call a VOTE for Noel, go ahead, but > this is the VOTE I am int

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Ross, Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair. If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If you want to explicitly call a VOTE for Noel, go ahead, but this is the VOTE I am interested in calling, thanks! Cheers, Chris On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Ro

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Sam suggested asking prodlings in category 2 to report back again next >> month on their progress towards solving the mentioned issues. > > Hey, now don't go and start spreading false ru

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Greg Reddin
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > [ ] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position. +1 Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Karl Wright
+1 (binding) Karl Wright On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Michael McCandless wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Mike McCandless > > http://blog.mikemccandless.com > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time

[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the following nominee:" Where is the mail from Noel saying he is no longer standing? Have I missed something? Ross On 9 February 2012 15:39, Ate Douma wrote: > +1 (bin

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Michael McCandless
+1 (binding) Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the

[DISCUSS] Moving forward

2012-02-09 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Folks, So here's what I personally am going to do to help move forward here in the Incubator: 1. called VOTE for Jukka Zitting as chair. Seems at least for now, we need a new chair, and we've discussed it enough, so there you have it. 2. I wrote an Incubator deconstruction proposal here: http

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ate Douma
+1 (binding) Ate On 02/09/2012 04:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Hi Folks, OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zi

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 binding. Thanks for putting up this vote Chris On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the > running >

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the > running > have aligned beyond the foll

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > > Sam suggested asking prodlings in category 2 to report back again next > month on their progress towards solving the mentioned issues. Hey, now don't go and start spreading false rumors here. Particularly as the archives are available for

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding) Tommaso 2012/2/9 Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in > the running > have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zitting. Su

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Benson Margulies
+1 (binding) On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the > running > have aligned beyond the following nom

[VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Folks, OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zitting. Suffice to say, he was *my first choice* :) In the interest of mo

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor > issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged > NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also > missed their previous report), as

Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

2012-02-09 Thread j...@nanthrax.net
+1 (binding) Regards JB -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://wwx.talend.com - Reply message - From: "Niall Pemberton" To: Subject: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 1:02 am +1 Niall On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Moh

Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

2012-02-09 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
+1 (binding) Hadrian On 02/08/2012 09:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi... It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or not, [1], [2] and [3]. In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE]