Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Sam Ruby wrote on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 20:07:59 -0500: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > PLEASE NOTE! > > > > From the ASF Board: > > > >  For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclusion at the > >  board meetings will now be due 1 WEEK before the meeting. Rep

Re: Adobe revises Flex's future ... at the Apache Software Foundation - The H Open Source: News and Features

2011-11-16 Thread Sally Khudairi
Thanks, Bill. FWIW, the journalist (Dj Walker-Morgan) contacted me today to see if we had a statement about this. As there's nothing publicly available to point to (heck, not even privately from what I could tell), I reminded him that we're unable to make any statements at this point. The art

Re: Adobe revises Flex's future ... at the Apache Software Foundation - The H Open Source: News and Features

2011-11-16 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/16/2011 9:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote: NOTE: and yes, Adobe is doing this right: they say they are crafting *proposals*. Still chuckling that h-online "somehow"[1] avoided making any stupid errors in their article w.r.t. either Adobe or Apache or the incubation process ;-P [1] Thanks "som

[RESULT] Retire Olio [Was: Retire Olio?]

2011-11-16 Thread Henri Yandell
5 +1s to retire Olio. Happily the IP did get signed off on, so no need to remove the source code from SVN. I'll go ahead and update the Incubator site to indicate that the project is now retired. Hen On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > Coming back to this. > > It unfort

Re: Adobe revises Flex's future ... at the Apache Software Foundation - The H Open Source: News and Features

2011-11-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Looking forward to hearing how this isn't a code dump :) Hen On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Heads up on some incoming proposals. > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-revises-Flex-s-future-at-the-Apache-Software-Foundation-1380242.html > > > NOTE: and yes, Adobe

Adobe revises Flex's future ... at the Apache Software Foundation - The H Open Source: News and Features

2011-11-16 Thread Greg Stein
Heads up on some incoming proposals. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-revises-Flex-s-future-at-the-Apache-Software-Foundation-1380242.html NOTE: and yes, Adobe is doing this right: they say they are crafting *proposals*. All is good here; I'm just giving some heads-up since I hadn't

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din >> wrote: >> > Hi... >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 P

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din > wrote: > > Hi... > > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman > wrote: > >> > PLEASE NOTE! > >> > > >> > From the A

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Hi... > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> > PLEASE NOTE! >> > >> > From the ASF Board: >> > >> >  For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclus

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Hi... > >   The idea sounds good in general more specifically that should be clear > and documented on the incubator site for future incubating projects. But, > IMHO, we should categorize projects mentioned in that list from very old t

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Benson Margulies
While I agree that it's important to confront the current inventory, I think that the situation at hand is as much a matter of what goes into the incubator as what comes out. In my limited experience, size and growth are a big barrier to graduation. If a project is chugging along exhibiting good A

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > PLEASE NOTE! > > > > From the ASF Board: > > > > For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclusion at the > > board meetings will now be due 1 WEEK before the meeting.

Re: monthly reporting? (Kafka, Oozie, Giraphi, Ambari)

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Thanks to you both On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:11 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > > > > Sorry for the silly question but what is 'marvin' ? > > There are two "infra"-type scripts. > One for sending reminders to TLPs and another one > to send reminders to Incubator project

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... The idea sounds good in general more specifically that should be clear and documented on the incubator site for future incubating projects. But, IMHO, we should categorize projects mentioned in that list from very old to recent ones and each group of mentors get in touch with their mentor

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I have been working to get Empire-DB to graduate, and I expect to have > a vote in front of general@ quite soon. > Same with Bean Validation the vote on the dev list is already done and next steps will be taken soon. I take the blame for

Re: monthly reporting? (Kafka, Oozie, Giraphi, Ambari)

2011-11-16 Thread David Crossley
Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > > Sorry for the silly question but what is 'marvin' ? There are two "infra"-type scripts. One for sending reminders to TLPs and another one to send reminders to Incubator projects. Both are informally known as "marvin". Not sure where the code lives. Searching the

Re: monthly reporting? (Kafka, Oozie, Giraphi, Ambari)

2011-11-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 02:57:57AM +0200, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Sorry for the silly question but what is 'marvin' ? Not silly at all! Many people are intrigued by this suave troublemaker 'marvin'. It's the automated mailer tool which sends out the monthly reminders. -- Marvin Humphrey,

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > PLEASE NOTE! > > From the ASF Board: > >  For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclusion at the >  board meetings will now be due 1 WEEK before the meeting. Reports >  submitted late will be declined and you'll need to resubmit t

Re: Missing reports (was: Re: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... Having automated e-mails sent as reminders is a good thing and handy too. But, IMHO, even with having this in hand mentors *should* be following up with their mentored projects just in case something went wrong with the automation scripts like what happened this time, also to follow up wi

Re: monthly reporting? (Kafka, Oozie, Giraphi, Ambari)

2011-11-16 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi David... On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:54 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Some projects are still listed in the Monthly section of > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule > yet have exceeded their initial three-month stint. > > Clutch gathers that data and feeds it into marvin for the >

Re: Missing reports (was: Re: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread David Crossley
Dennis Lundberg wrote: > > Like Stefan I cannot seem to find the handy reminder e-mail that usually > comes on the first day of the reporting month. Neither in my inbox nor > the dev-list archive. As explained here early this month, the automated reminder failed because there was an extra board m

monthly reporting? (Kafka, Oozie, Giraphi, Ambari)

2011-11-16 Thread David Crossley
Some projects are still listed in the Monthly section of http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule yet have exceeded their initial three-month stint. Clutch gathers that data and feeds it into marvin for the reminders. If your project feels that it has finished their monthly reporting cy

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread David Crossley
Sam Ruby wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > > We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own.  As > > David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the > > Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues.  The Incubator is almost > > as big as the re

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Upayavira
So on what date do you want the notification to go out? Upayavira On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:47 PM, "Noel J. Bergman" wrote: > PLEASE NOTE! > > From the ASF Board: > > For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclusion at the > board meetings will now be due 1 WEEK before the

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Benson Margulies
I have been working to get Empire-DB to graduate, and I expect to have a vote in front of general@ quite soon. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, sebb wrote: > On 16 November 2011 20:57, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >>> >>> Deltacloud has gradu

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread sebb
On 16 November 2011 20:57, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> >> Deltacloud has graduated and can be put off from your list. >> Rat is discussing graduation and should be moved from the list too. > > The master list from which I drew the data can be

Mentoring Droids

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Frovarp
I would like to help with mentoring Droids and hopefully move it on to graduation. There has been a lazy consensus on the Droids dev list. If there are no objections on this list, I'll add myself to the list of mentors early next week. Thanks, Richard -

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> >> Deltacloud has graduated and can be put off from your list. >> Rat is discussing graduation and should be moved from the list too. > > The master list from which I drew the data

Re: Missing reports (was: Re: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Actually I checked and could not find a reminder for Zeta dev too. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi > > I am one of the mentors for NPanday. We did not provide a report this > month. We apologize for this. > > Like Stefan I cannot seem to find the handy reminder e-mail

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Deltacloud has graduated and can be put off from your list. > Rat is discussing graduation and should be moved from the list too. The master list from which I drew the data can be found here: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ T

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:48:02 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki. If others wish to join > > me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating > > > more than a year: > On t

Re: Missing reports (was: Re: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hi I am one of the mentors for NPanday. We did not provide a report this month. We apologize for this. Like Stefan I cannot seem to find the handy reminder e-mail that usually comes on the first day of the reporting month. Neither in my inbox nor the dev-list archive. Do you want us to report ne

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Excellent plot chart.  As with most plot charts, the end result is a > Rorschach test.  I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart: > a failure to perform garbage collection.  My

Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
PLEASE NOTE! >From the ASF Board: For now on, all reports to the board for review/inclusion at the board meetings will now be due 1 WEEK before the meeting. Reports submitted late will be declined and you'll need to resubmit the next month. This means that Incubator reports really need t

Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own.  As > David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the > Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues.  The Incubator is almost > as big as

Re: [OT] Hoover is not an adjective, was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache opennlp-1.5.2-incubating-rc5

2011-11-16 Thread Kalle Korhonen
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:39 AM, sebb wrote: > On 16 November 2011 14:32, Thilo Goetz wrote: >> On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb wrote: On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies wrote: > That page is very misleading, and there was a

Re: [OT] Hoover is not an adjective, was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache opennlp-1.5.2-incubating-rc5

2011-11-16 Thread Thilo Goetz
On 16/11/11 16:39, sebb wrote: > On 16 November 2011 14:32, Thilo Goetz wrote: >> On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb wrote: On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies wrote: > That page is very misleading, and there was a long discussio

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wookie 0.9.1-incubating RC5 (General Incubation List)

2011-11-16 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 We still need another IPMC vote. On 14 November 2011 19:03, Paul Sharples wrote: > We have already received 1 IPMC +1 vote (plus an additional 3 PPMC +1 votes) > during the release voting on wookie-dev. (We need two more IPMC votes) > > Vote thread: > http://incubator.markmail.org/search/?q=w

Re: [OT] Hoover is not an adjective, was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache opennlp-1.5.2-incubating-rc5

2011-11-16 Thread sebb
On 16 November 2011 14:32, Thilo Goetz wrote: > On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb wrote: >>> On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies wrote: That page is very misleading, and there was a long discussion of this topic elsewhere.

[OT] Hoover is not an adjective, was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache opennlp-1.5.2-incubating-rc5

2011-11-16 Thread Thilo Goetz
On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb wrote: >> On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> That page is very misleading, and there was a long discussion of this >>> topic elsewhere. >>> >>> Look at the example just above the requirement: >>

Re: Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]

2011-11-16 Thread Jörn Kottmann
Hello, can OpenNLP be signed-off? OpenNLP was hosted for some years over at SourceForge before we moved to the Apache Incubator. Over at SourceForge a couple of people worked on it. Most SourceForge committers are also committers here, they all signed an ICLA, these are: - Thilo Goetz - Jörn K

Re: Missing reports

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-11-16, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > This time were 7 reports missed (leaving out S4): > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Lucene.NET > Can we hear from the mentors of the other projects what is going on in > their podlings? A mentors response is what we should

Missing reports (was: Re: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
This time were 7 reports missed (leaving out S4): On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Amber > HISE > Kalumet > Lucene.NET > NPanday > Zeta Components > Stonehenge > SHOULD BE RETIRED. I am a Mentor of Zeta. This time I have not had the time to push the report. A pity, nobo

Re: Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]

2011-11-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > >> 2009-02-09  kato > > I'm comfortable that this is safe enough copyright-wise. I would > prefer the podling community to do the checking themselves but it's > stalled un

Re: Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]

2011-11-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > 2009-02-09  kato I'm comfortable that this is safe enough copyright-wise. I would prefer the podling community to do the checking themselves but it's stalled until the JCR is sorted out. Robert -