On 16 November 2011 14:32, Thilo Goetz <twgo...@gmx.de> wrote: > On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> That page is very misleading, and there was a long discussion of this >>>> topic elsewhere. >>>> >>>> Look at the example just above the requirement: >>>> >>>> "The Apache Xerces XML parsing library is easily configurable and >>>> compliant with current standards" >>>> >>>> Yes, in some sense, Xerces is an adjective there, but really what the >>>> senator is trying to say is to construct a particular noun phrase. >>> >>> AIUI, trademarks need to be used as if they are adjectives. >>> >>> For example: >>> >>> The Hoover vacuum cleaner is versatile >>> NOT >>> The Hoover is a versatile vacuum cleaner >> >> I think I've just discovered that I'm too tired to type. I agree: >> that's an adjective. However, it's really very hard to make sense of >> the requirement without the example, either what you just sent or >> what's on the page. >> > > See subject line. > > Feel free to completely ignore this, but the linguist in me > couldn't let this go ;-). You can verify this by trying to > stick another adjective between Hoover and the rest. Just > like "car" in "car door" is not an adjective (compare "green > car door" vs. "car green door"), Hoover is not an adjective > in "Hoover vacuum cleaner" (and neither is vacuum).
Not sure possible word order is relevant/conclusive. > This might explain why people in a project like OpenNLP are > confused by that sentence on the trademarks page. The point is that the mark must be *used as* an adjective. I think this was previously called an adjectival noun, it now seems to be called "noun adjunct": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_adjunct What do you suggest the trademarks page should say in order to make it clearer? > --Thilo > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
