Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread Craig L Russell
I realize I did not propose an end date for this vote. Assuming no issues arise, I'll call the vote next Monday. Give everyone the weekend to comment and vote. Craig On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Please vote on accepting Olio into incubation. The proposal can be foun

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Jukka Zitting wrote: > >> Of which we have two; released, or not released, and that's a product > >> of oversight and a [VOTE]. There are no magical in-betweens. > > > > As evidenced by this vote this is hardly the

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: > > Open an infrastructure JIRA ticket and I'll figure out getting https:// > on www.apache.org sooner or later. Good thought. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1737 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: So you assume that that www.apache.org can not be hacked? What if a signing key *IS* in KEYS but not signed by anyone (because the developer has never attended an Apache key signing event)? No, I answered your question. W.r.t. www.apac

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
David Crossley wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > [snip] >> I liked the way you put the question; it's not up to incubator project to >> set the rules for Maven. If the maven PMC decides that these incubator >> releases don't belong in the primary repository, that's their call. But >> this

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread David Crossley
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Jukka Zitting wrote: > > [snip] > > > Are incubating releases official releases of the ASF? > > Yes. Otherwise they must be removed from ASF servers. > There's no middle ground. > [snip] > > > How strong disclaimers are needed and what level of explicit > > ackn

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation]

2008-09-24 Thread Sheetal Patil
+1 Sheetal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Will Sobel -Original Message- From: Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation Date: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:38 am Size: 4K To: general@incubator.apache.org +1 (obviously) Shanti On 09/23/08

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Niall Pemberton wrote: This is a slight majority (of binding votes) for accepting the proposed change, but given the clear lack of consensus and the concerns voiced about that, I unfortunately need to conclude that this issue should be tabled until better consensus is reached. If this was

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! > > The vote ends with the following 15 +1, 12 -1, and one 0 binding votes. > >

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Of which we have two; released, or not released, and that's a product >> of oversight and a [VOTE]. There are no magical in-betweens. > > As evidenced by this vote this is hardly the consensus. See comments > like "incubating releases to be treated as full Apache releases"

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Doug Cutting
Jukka Zitting wrote: There is clearly a widely held feeling that incubating releases are different than "normal" ASF releases. This is the crux of the issue. I fail to see how they are fundamentally different. Releases and the release process is one of the most standardized things in the AS

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jukka Zitting wrote: >> This is a slight majority (of binding votes) for accepting the >> proposed change, but given the clear lack of consensus and the >> concerns voiced about that, I unfortunately need to con

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread Akara Sucharitakul
+1 Akara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Will Sobel -Original Message- From: Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation Date: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:38 am Size: 4K To: general@incubator.apache.org +1 (obviously) Shanti On 09/23/08 07:3

Re: Project Diversity Guidelines

2008-09-24 Thread Marnie McCormack
Hi Niclas, Thanks for your feedback, sincerely. Appreciate the time taken. I'm really not a process junkie and I'm definitely not trying to impose any ideas here. This suggestion is really off the back of a few items coming up during our previous graduation debate which were quite a surprise to u

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jukka Zitting wrote: > > The vote ends with the following 15 +1, 12 -1, and one 0 binding votes. > > This is a slight majority (of binding votes) for accepting the > proposed change, but given the clear lack of consensus and the > concerns voiced about that, I unfortunately need to conclude that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-24 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Looks like we need one more mentor. Is it redundant to put myself as one since I'm already the champion and a listed committer? On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote: This is a proposal to enter the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal for the most u

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread wsobel
+1 Will Sobel -Original Message- From: Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation Date: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:38 am Size: 4K To: general@incubator.apache.org +1 (obviously) Shanti On 09/23/08 07:33, Craig L Russell wrote: > Please vo

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread Shanti Subramanyam - PAE
+1 (obviously) Shanti On 09/23/08 07:33, Craig L Russell wrote: Please vote on accepting Olio into incubation. The proposal can be found at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OlioProposal [This proposal was formerly known as Web20Kit] The text of the proposal: OlioProposal Abstract Apache O

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-87) Submission of ICLAs and CCLAs for initial committers

2008-09-24 Thread James Dixson (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-87?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12634180#action_12634180 ] James Dixson commented on INCUBATOR-87: --- I have faxed in all ICLAs. The CCLA will b

Possible software grant for POI

2008-09-24 Thread Nick Burch
Hi All With my POI PMC chair hat on, I've been speaking to the company behind the OpenXML4J[1] library. Within POI, we use OpenXML4J for the fiddly bits in dealing with ooxml files. The company behind OpenXML4J would like OpenXML4J to become part of POI. Having spoken with Robert Burrell Don

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sep 24, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:42 -0400, Hiram Chirino wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22/09/2008, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Hiram Chirino
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:42 -0400, Hiram Chirino wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On 22/09/2008, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The only reason I sugg

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Hiram Chirino
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 09:34 -0400, Hiram Chirino wrote: >> The only reason I suggested including the sigs in the source distro is >> because a source build like Apache ServiceMix depends on hundreds of >> third par

[RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! The vote ends with the following 15 +1, 12 -1, and one 0 binding votes. +1 Bertrand Delacretaz +1 Brett Porter +1 Bruce Snyder +1 Davanum Srin

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept VCL into Apache Incbator

2008-09-24 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I was planning on closing this vote Friday September 26 at 12:00 ET. Just a heads up On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: This item has been out for discussion for a few weeks. Please indicate your preference for accepting VCL to the Incubator. Proposal is included below for

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (binding) (on both accounts: accept olio and add Wicket to the ticket) Martijn On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:01 AM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > I've informed the Wicket team about this incubator request and there > is interest in providing a wicket-based impleme

Re: Spamming the General List

2008-09-24 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Niclas Hedhman wrote: Gang, Sorry, I didn't realize that SubTasks would still go to the general@ list... Hmmm... All those JIRA notices are a good thing -- lets folks review the tasks making it into the queue (and keeps folks aware of tasks in general, even if they aren't interested in the

Re: [VOTE]apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubatingandapache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubatingrelease

2008-09-24 Thread sebb
On 24/09/2008, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:54 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > > It's a pity that the Tomcat jars don't contain proper manifests + N & > > L files; I'll see about raising that with the Tomcat developers. > > > Huh, what? > > On my freshly d

Re: Apache Project Proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:52, Hussain Fakhruddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have prepared a rough draft of a Proposal which I would want ASF to have a > look. > I am not sure if this is the correct email where I should be sending it. > Please consider it. Your MS Word document attache

Re: Wicket implementation re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread James Carman
Craig, Thanks. Where is the code now? Igor Vaynberg (from the Wicket development team) and I (a lowly Wicket user :) are both interested in working on a wicket implementation (hopefully together). If we could see what it currently entails, we may be able to get started. It might be nice if Oli

Re: Key signing practicalities Was: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > So you assume that that www.apache.org can not be hacked? What if a >> signing key *IS* in KEYS but not signed by anyone (because the developer >> has never attended an Apache key signing event)? >> > > Which reminds me -

Re: Apache Project Proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Hussain Fakhruddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi, > > I have prepared a rough draft of a Proposal which I would want ASF to have > a look. > I am not sure if this is the correct email where I should be sending it. > Please consider it. > Yes, this is the correct

Re: Key signing practicalities Was: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread David Crossley
Janne Jalkanen wrote: > > > >So you assume that that www.apache.org can not be hacked? What if a > >signing key *IS* in KEYS but not signed by anyone (because the > >developer > >has never attended an Apache key signing event)? > > Which reminds me - if one does not attend an Apache key signing

Re: Apache Project Proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 10:22 +0530, Hussain Fakhruddin wrote: > Hi, > > I have prepared a rough draft of a Proposal which I would want ASF to > have a look. > I am not sure if this is the correct email where I should be sending > it. Please consider it. It is the correct mailing list however you f

Re: Key signing practicalities Was: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any people near Helsinki, Finland who are willing to have a coffee and sign > my key? ;-) I'll be in Helsinki for two weeks after the ApacheCon US. BR, Jukka Zitting ---

Apache Project Proposal

2008-09-24 Thread Hussain Fakhruddin
Hi, I have prepared a rough draft of a Proposal which I would want ASF to have a look. I am not sure if this is the correct email where I should be sending it. Please consider it. Thanks, Regards, Hussain F. http://hussulinux.blogspot.com -- Computers are like airconditioners, they don't funct

Key signing practicalities Was: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-24 Thread Janne Jalkanen
So you assume that that www.apache.org can not be hacked? What if a signing key *IS* in KEYS but not signed by anyone (because the developer has never attended an Apache key signing event)? Which reminds me - if one does not attend an Apache key signing event (which tend to be in faraway co