RE: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Upayavira
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:48 -0800, Mark Slee wrote: > Well, note that this isn't strictly an IP issue. The issue here was the > committers list, not the IP of the code. I don't see why all the code > would need to be written by people on the initial committers list to > pass IP restrictions. > >

Re: IP Clearance Process For New Podlings

2008-02-04 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: i think i understand the general process for importing code into the ASF but i'm a little hazy about the way that code arrives when a new podling is started based on external code. i need to understand the process better before

RE: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Mark Slee
Well, note that this isn't strictly an IP issue. The issue here was the committers list, not the IP of the code. I don't see why all the code would need to be written by people on the initial committers list to pass IP restrictions. These two seem like disjoint issues to me. All code in the codeba

Re: [VOTE] Accept PDFBox for incubation

2008-02-04 Thread Grant Ingersoll
+1 On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Incubator PMC, Please vote on accepting the PDFBox project for incubation. The full PDFBox proposal is available at the end of this message and as a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PDFBoxProposal. We ask the Incubator PMC to spo

IP Clearance Process For New Podlings

2008-02-04 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
i think i understand the general process for importing code into the ASF but i'm a little hazy about the way that code arrives when a new podling is started based on external code. i need to understand the process better before trying to document it. here are some initial questions: 1 is a softwar

Re: JIRA Setup for new podling

2008-02-04 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Feb 3, 2008 7:55 PM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 19:23 +, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > should the IPMC/Mentors have karma for setting up issue tracking for a > > new podling or is the infrastructure team? > > I'd say it is the infrastructure team that g

Re: [VOTE] Accept PDFBox for incubation

2008-02-04 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:18 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Please vote on accepting the PDFBox project for incubation. The full PDFBox proposal is available at the end of this message and as a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PDFBoxProposal. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor the

Re: "Binding" term

2008-02-04 Thread Craig L Russell
Please take a look at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ INCUBATOR-72 which I believe fixes the problem. The policy calls for a community vote (which generally only the mentors are aware of) and if successful, followed by a binding vote on the incubator general list by which all incubato

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-72) Clarify release policy by removing "binding" from dev vote

2008-02-04 Thread Craig Russell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-72?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Craig Russell updated INCUBATOR-72: --- Attachment: incubator-72.patch This patch removes the text "and only the PPMC member votes

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-72) Clarify release policy by removing "binding" from dev vote

2008-02-04 Thread Craig Russell (JIRA)
Clarify release policy by removing "binding" from dev vote -- Key: INCUBATOR-72 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-72 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Craig L Russell
On Feb 4, 2008, at 3:41 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: And to be quite frank, it feels very counterproductive to me to remove code from the project with full a priori intention of putting it back in. Are you sure you will get the appro

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Bill Stoddard
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roland Weber wrote: I think that is a bit oversimplified. IBM has strict rules about open source participation. It is either "on private time", such as my involvement at Apache. Then the person is acting as an individual. Or it is "on company time". Then the person is

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Santiago Gala
On Feb 4, 2008 4:54 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roland Weber wrote: > > I think that is a bit oversimplified. IBM has strict rules about > > open source participation. It is either "on private time", such > > as my involvement at Apache. Then the person is acting as an > >

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roland Weber wrote: I think that is a bit oversimplified. IBM has strict rules about open source participation. It is either "on private time", such as my involvement at Apache. Then the person is acting as an individual. Or it is "on company time". Then the person is doing what he or she is paid

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 2/4/08, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, you are right. I just doublechecked Cayenne incubator release > history, and we did clear all our IP issues before posting the first > release. Anyways, throwing away the code just to *enter* the Incubator > is neither required True

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Sorry, you are right. I just doublechecked Cayenne incubator release history, and we did clear all our IP issues before posting the first release. Anyways, throwing away the code just to *enter* the Incubator is neither required nor seems like a good approach. Andrus On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 2/4/08, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As long as you remember that you can't release or graduate > without properly > > audited code with a paper trail to the original author of the code. > > You can release from the incubator before all IP is cleared. No you can't: from the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: And to be quite frank, it feels very counterproductive to me to remove code from the project with full a priori intention of putting it back in. Are you sure you will get the appropriate ICLA's from all the authors that have contribu

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 2/1/08, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, dropping parts of the code feels counterproductive to me, as I > think it might put up a perceived barrier to collaboration with the > Thrift project. As long as you remember that you can't release or graduate without properly audited c

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Santiago Gala
On Feb 4, 2008 7:24 AM, Stefan Hepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't group all IBM'ers, really - I actually believe IBM'ers do tons > > of good in many open source projects. Also I think IBM itself is a > > somewhat good open source citizen in several regards. > > > > But it is not individu

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
Stefan Thanks for the clearly thought out answer. Paul On Feb 4, 2008 5:55 AM, Stefan Hepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > I still think it is of value doing RIs at Apache, because it makes the > standard that is implemented more open and easier to consume. > > I also think that the new J

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Stefan Hepper
Paul, I still think it is of value doing RIs at Apache, because it makes the standard that is implemented more open and easier to consume. I also think that the new JCP process allows to do it more inline with Apache rules, however it still requires some special treatment (and some additional pat

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Stefan Hepper
I don't group all IBM'ers, really - I actually believe IBM'ers do tons of good in many open source projects. Also I think IBM itself is a somewhat good open source citizen in several regards. But it is not individuals that propose this particular project, as I understand it: it is IBM and BEA.