Re: [DISCUSS] Re-election of podling committers before graduation

2008-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Filip's point - and I tend to agree, is that we have quite a few committers in many podling ideas who never translate into actual contributors. Maybe the idea excited them, but other things caught their attention. Maybe they were an original contributor to the incoming codebase, but over the cou

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-election of podling committers before graduation

2008-02-02 Thread Craig L Russell
There are some podlings that are managing themselves well and have no inactive committers. These podlings should not have to undergo an artificial process in order to graduate. Other podlings that have a bunch of inactive committers might find it necessary to go through a pruning process at

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-election of podling committers before graduation

2008-02-02 Thread Filip at Apache
I'd vote -1, if a project graduates, it does so cause the committer community is healthy and works well together, and all the other factors. I don't see any reason why a community should have to be re-elected. It just doesn't make sense. Graduation out of incubator should not be a popularity con

Re: [PROPOSAL] i18n4data Proposal

2008-02-02 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
Neng Geng Huang wrote: The key of i18n4data is to i18n user's data, not interface message. For example, if you are developing an e-shop web site to support two languages (English and French), you might have a table to store your goods item when you design the data structure: I don't see the d

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Endre Stølsvik
Bill Stoddard wrote: Endre Stølsvik wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Sure, activity is not that high, and there's not a *huge* developer community, but there does not really seem to be any problem, either. Apache doesn't require projects to be huge successes (by whatever metric) as long as they're h

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Bill Stoddard
Endre Stølsvik wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Sure, activity is not that high, and there's not a *huge* developer community, but there does not really seem to be any problem, either. Apache doesn't require projects to be huge successes (by whatever metric) as long as they're healthy and self-sustai

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-02 Thread Endre Stølsvik
kelvin goodson wrote: I think what we were trying to say is that this work belongs in a project of it own ... The new project requires an environment where it can focus on the clear aim of implementing this JSR RI and TCK, or future versions, Is this really what Apache is for? without the di

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-02 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Feb 2, 2008 6:47 AM, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: > > Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard > > questions! > > Nah, it's mostly because the mail threading on this thingie was > broken a few times. It mak

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Feb 2, 2008 10:24 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 1, 2008 12:59 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...Maybe the interesting question is whether you think - based on your > > experience - if is is really appropriate to try to create a JCP RI as > >

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-02 Thread kelvin goodson
Hi Paul, what was it about the proposal section discussing Tuscany that confused you? I think what we were trying to say is that this work belongs in a project of it own, since Tuscany has a so much wider scope than this, and the overall aims of the proposal are quite different. The new projec

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Feb 1, 2008 12:59 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...Maybe the interesting question is whether you think - based on your > experience - if is is really appropriate to try to create a JCP RI as > an Apache incubator project?... IMHO, Jackrabbit is a successful example of such an

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Endre Stølsvik
Leo Simons wrote: Sure, activity is not that high, and there's not a *huge* developer community, but there does not really seem to be any problem, either. Apache doesn't require projects to be huge successes (by whatever metric) as long as they're healthy and self-sustaining. This was not h

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Luciano Resende
On Feb 2, 2008 6:08 AM, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, much more importantly, proposals should be evaluated on > their own merits, not based on what happened to some other unrelated > project 4 years ago. > +1 -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.or

[DISCUSS] More systematic disclosure of company affiliations

2008-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Following up on the community diversity discussions of last December [1], I propose disclosing the company affiliations of podling committers and mentors more systematically, at the start and end of the incubation process. If we agree, I'll start two votes on the following additions to our po

[DISCUSS] Re-election of podling committers before graduation

2008-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Following up (finally) on the community diversity discussion of last December [1], I propose to re-elect podling committers before a project graduates. If we agree, I'll start a vote to add the following text after the "Graduation Process" title at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduatio

Re: [PROPOSAL] CouchDB incubator project

2008-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Feb 2, 2008 1:48 PM, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...A number of good people indicated a willingness to be considered as > mentors. At this time, I would like to ask that those that still wish > to do so simply add themselves to the wiki page There are more than enough mentors, a

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard questions! Nah, it's mostly because the mail threading on this thingie was broken a few times. It makes things hard to follow. Simon -- please use that "reply-to" button in

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Endre Stølsvik wrote: this isn't exactly some court Exactly. Now, if I look through http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=pluto#query:pluto+page:1 +state:facets pluto does not seem a problematic "code dump" project, and it also definitely isn't a "single deve

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:20 AM, David Reiss wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: git could be an issue. Can you explain what the issue is with Git? Probably not very well :-). Basically, we know how to do the apache- style open source process using centralized version control, we don't quite know how t

[PROPOSAL] CouchDB incubator project

2008-02-02 Thread Sam Ruby
On Jan 31, 2008 10:40 AM, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The original source for this proposal can be found at > > http://www.couchdbwiki.com/index.php?title=Apache_Incubator_Proposal > > and a current snapshot is attached below. Once we have established that > there is interest, my plan is

Re: [PROPOSAL] i18n4data Proposal

2008-02-02 Thread Neng Geng Huang
Hi! Jacques, Thanks for your information. The key of i18n4data is to i18n user's data, not interface message. For example, if you are developing an e-shop web site to support two languages (English and French), you might have a table to store your goods item when you design the data structure

Re: [PROPOSAL] i18n4data Proposal

2008-02-02 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> Thank you very much that you will spend time on my proposal. Sure, no problem :-) I could find any sources though. Do you use another repository than the one mentioned on the sourceforge site, or do you still have to check your sources in? Cheers, Eelco --