Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6. Cayenne: Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney Started:March 2006 Incomplete: Nothing Diverity: Unknown Releases: 1 All eight

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6. Cayenne: Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney Started:March 2006 Incomplete: Nothing Diverity: Unknown Releases: 1 All eight of the Cayenne committers are independent of each other

RE: Weirdness with the web site

2006-11-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> There is an issue with building the site from a windows platform that > causes the eols to get all mixed up. See http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn, specifically the last two paragraphs, starting with "Committers will need to properly ..." This is why Roy made his comment

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> There seems to be a persistent delusion that >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. > > That is perjorative. Want to start again? I just spent a considerable amount of time go

Re: Weirdness with the web site

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Friday November 10 2006 7:24 pm, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > Similarly, I'm seeing a number of files that show up with every > > single line changed, when AFAICT all that should change is the > > removal of a single line from the list of projects. What's up with > > that? > > Do you really want

RE: Weirdness with the web site

2006-11-10 Thread Johnson, Eric
I made a change this morning and also noticed that a lot of files I had not touched were listed as modified. In looking at them the content was unchanged. I did have to run build -fix to get my checkins to work. There is an issue with building the site from a windows platform that causes the eols t

Re: Weirdness with the web site

2006-11-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 10, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote: So, I'm trying to finish off the job of removing lucene4c from the web site, since it's been retired it shouldn't be showing up in the list of podlings and what not, and when I'm generating the site I can't help but notice lots of changes in the

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we go the first route, then we should treat this list as an announcements list. Results of votes for releases and graduation are posted here, and incubator PMC members will be given 72 hours to raise an issue. I've been advising podlings with

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 18. Lucene4c: Mentors:Erik Hatcher Started:Unknown Incomplete: All Diversity: Unknown Releases: Unknown Also FWIW, this one has been retired, I just hadn't updated its status page to note that fact.

Weirdness with the web site

2006-11-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
So, I'm trying to finish off the job of removing lucene4c from the web site, since it's been retired it shouldn't be showing up in the list of podlings and what not, and when I'm generating the site I can't help but notice lots of changes in there that are totally unrelated to what I just changed.

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Abdera: Mentors:Garrett Rooney, Paul Querna Started:July 2006 Incomplete: Identification, Interim Responsibility, Copyright Diversity: Unknown Releases: Unknown FWIW, when Ken pointed out to me th

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> There seems to be a persistent delusion that >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. > > That is perjorative. Want to start again? I just spent a considerable amount of time going through all the podling status pages, and there's a certain

[VOTE][RESULT] OFBiz Test Snapshot Release: 4.0.0 TS5

2006-11-10 Thread David E Jones
The vote for the OFBiz podling Test Snapshot Release 4.0.0 TS5 has passed: +1: 3: Robert Burrell Donkin, Yoav Shapira, David Welton +0: 0 -1: 0 Being a Test Snapshot release we don't plan to "market" this publicly, so we plan to end the process for this release with the result of this vo

Re: Top Reason to join the ASF (or not)

2006-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Top three reasons why a project should join the ASF > > 1. A development community shares our core values of collaboration, > transparency, and responsiblity. Yes. But a project hosted at say Sourceforge can share those values equally (or

Re: Top Reason to join the ASF (or not)

2006-11-10 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Top three reasons why a project should join the ASF 1. A development community shares our core values of collaboration, transparency, and responsiblity. Yes. But a project hosted at say Sourceforge can share those values equally (or sometimes even better imo, as they don't have to cope with pol

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually

Top Reason to join the ASF (or not)

2006-11-10 Thread Ted Husted
On the incubator site, we mention the How, Who, and When of incubation. I thought we might also want to discuss the "Why". Toward that end, here's my own short list of reason why projects should, or should not, apply for incubation. Top three reasons why a project should join the ASF 1. A deve

Re: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. -- dims On 11/10/06, J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/6/06, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand it is good practice to restart a vote if the vote thread > becomes heavy with discussion. This is the case with the vote that was > begun at > http://ww

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, when I'm voting with my Incubator PMC hat on, I'm voting based on the fact that the project has followed the ASF guidelines for how to prepare and vote on a release, and that we've legally speaking got all our ducks in a row

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/10/06, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday November 10 2006 11:06 am, Garrett Rooney wrote: > I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the > project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on > [EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anyth

Re: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sam Ruby wrote: >> I understand it is good practice to restart a vote if the vote thread >> becomes heavy with discussion. This is the case with the vote that was >> begun at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11201.html >> which contains some issues raised and comments

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask. What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to voting on a release? I for one can't make any judgement of its technical worth.. Th

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask. What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to voting on a release? I for one can't make any judgement of its technical worth.. Personally, when I'm voting with my Incubator PM

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Friday November 10 2006 11:06 am, Garrett Rooney wrote: > I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the > project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on > [EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anything that > would keep them from voting +1 they would h

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> is where incubation happens. > > That is perjorative. Want to start again? What the flying moose ears is wrong with people today? Every

RE: svn commit: r473365 [1/22] - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/projects/ site-publish/guides/ site-publish/ip-clearance/ site-publish/official/ site-publish/projects/

2006-11-10 Thread Johnson, Eric
I did notice that other pages had changed, but I figured that it had happened as part of the site generation process. I followed the procedure outlined: Updated my copy of the repository. Changed the single source file I was asked to update. Generated the site using build.bat. Ran build.bat fix t

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] > is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real > incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. > > We

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask. What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to voting on a release? I for one can't make any judgement of its technical worth.. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. That is perjorative. Indeed. It is rather rare to see such from me, wouldn't you say? Perhaps I feel rather strongly about the current state of this ever bur

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I mean at the very least I would expect to see +1 votes from the project mentors as soon as the vote thread starts on [EMAIL PROTECTED], since at least in theory if there was anything that would keep them from voting +1 they would have raised

RE: svn commit: r473365 [1/22] - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/projects/ site-publish/guides/ site-publish/ip-clearance/ site-publish/official/ site-publish/projects/

2006-11-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=473365 > updated qpid status page And did you not notice that you had changed many pages, which you had no business changing? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sam Ruby wrote: > There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] > is where incubation happens. That is perjorative. Want to start again? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually is

Re: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/6/06, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand it is good practice to restart a vote if the vote thread becomes heavy with discussion. This is the case with the vote that was begun at http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11201.html which contains some i

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actuall

[DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Sam Ruby
There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually is happening, or make what we say is happening act

re: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-10 Thread Sam Ruby
I understand it is good practice to restart a vote if the vote thread becomes heavy with discussion. This is the case with the vote that was begun at http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11201.html which contains some issues raised and comments to address each of those issu

[RESULT] Luciano Resende for Tuscany committer

2006-11-10 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Passed with PPMC +1s from jboynes, rfeng, kwilliams, svkrish, jmarino, antelder, meerajk, kelvingoodson, rineholt, isilval, dkulp, ajborley, robbinspg and +1s from Adriano Crestani and no -1s Welcome to the project Luciano, sorry for the delay in wrapping this vote up. -- Jeremy On 10/26/06, Je