On 6/20/06, Drummond Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My co-chair Gabe Wachob and I have been one of a set of OASIS TC chairs that
have been arguing hard for OASIS to adopt a more explicit "open source
compatible" IPR mode, and we would be happy to work with you and ASF to
continue to champion it.
At the Berkman Identity Mashup Conference
(http://www.identitymash-up.org/) last week, there was a joint
announcement by Microsoft, Novell, IBM, SXIP, XRI, and VeriSign around
the future of OSIS (http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3229). OSIS will
morph into a working group under Identity Commons with
Martin Cooper wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >
> >The committer who is operator does a regular commit of
> >the logfile to our SVN. This keeps good track and allows
> >us to refer to the log during the meeting. It could
> >also enable people not on IRC to still be involved
> >because they could r
On 6/23/06, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
> >The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF
> >policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from projects
> >that
> >have gone against it. IRC tends
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
> >The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF
> >policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from projects
> >that
> >have gone against it. IRC tends to breed a more closed, albeit arguably
> >more integra
On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Hani Suleiman wrote:
I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my
name being on the initial committer list.
I'm astonished that you didn't expect it. Apache is a social
organization
that depends on trust, and one of the easiest ways to lose
On Jun 23, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Bob Scheifler wrote:
Having written that, I guess I've just explained to myself why
the ASF project should not be merely "Jini", and should either
have a different name or an additional qualifier. (As for
trademark issues, I'll defer to Jim Hurley to chime in.)
I
I'd sat let Hani in perhaps he has some better ideas of how things should be done. If not,
then he can wax eloquent about what went wrong. Either way...it will be a win and most entertaining.
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:52 -0400, Sakala, Adinarayana wrote:
== Ini
On 6/23/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF
policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from projects that
have gone against it. IRC tends to breed a more closed, albeit arguably
more integrated, com
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> > IMHO, all of the discussions, especially this early on, should be
happening
> > on the mailing lists, to encourage more people to participate, and thus
help
> > grow the community.
> +1 on that.
The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of AS
Just to follow up, I just ran into this announcement by SUN w/r/t
Non-assertion Covenants, which is exactly the sort of mechanism I've
been advocating to make Open Source implementation and adoption more
frictionless:
http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2006-06-15-a.html
I'd suggest all the interested pa
: If this is the case, who ever has the karma to fix this, can you take care
: of it?
I think the proper way to deal with this is to file a Jira request with
the Infrastructure Project in the JIRA component, but I'm not 100% sure.
: Also, I can't figure out how to assign, close or even edit a JI
Dims,
I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm
cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to try to overcome those
for several years (with some recent progress).
Thankfully Peter and Gabe and others who were founding members of the XRI TC
said, "No way w
On 6/20/2006 12:55 PM, "Drummond Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dims,
>
> I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm
> cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to try to overcome those
> for several years (with some recent progress).
I'll point out
Hello folks-
I read this thread with a *ton* of sympathy. I think Drummond
characterizes the situation correctly. I have (several times) raised
exactly these concerns to the OASIS community (see [1] in particular and
followups on [2] and [3]). There is actually a lot of sympathy and even
some a
So far the candidate Woden M5 release has received one +1 binding vote from
Dims but requires two more +1 votes from Incubator PMC members before it
can be released. There have been no +0 or -1 votes. I'd like to ask the
Incubator PMC again to review this request and vote on it.
thanks in advance
June 21, 2006 - Woden milestone 5 declared!
Congratulations to the Woden team. Download the milestone and view the
release notes at
http://people.apache.org/dist/ws/woden/milestones/1.0.0M5-incubating/
More information can be found on the Woden website -
http://incubator.apache.org/woden
John
Hiya.
I would like to become a committer on the celtixfire project. I work on
the JBossESB project and would like to make sure that the two projects
work closely together.
Thanks,
Kev
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> The community is developing the software, no?
The software that's being proposed as the initial source for
the ASF project has not been under open source development to date.
Almost all of it is code that has been developed and controlled
by one group at Sun. There's been active and ongoing com
Leo et al.
thanks for you valid input.
The PPMC list has been created. (Before this thread started).
Brett told us that, after I created a jira ticket for that.
Now we use the PPMC for *private* discussions.
Regards,
Matthias
On 6/23/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2
It's my impression that the trademark would be donated to the ASF to
avoid this problem. I'm not sure though.
geir
Leo Simons wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Bob Scheifler wrote:
>> Leo Simons wrote:
>>> I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and
Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 6/22/06, Hani Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name
>> being on the initial committer list.
>
>
> PS: Hani, will you *please* someday, just once, spell my name correctly so
> that Google can f
Hi Leo,
On Jun 23, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Leo Simons wrote:
"The Apache projects are characterized by a collaborative,
consensus based development process, an open and
pragmatic software license, and a desire to create high quality
software that leads the way in its field. We
consider ourselves
You clearly have no clue! Just as an example.
- Daniel Kulp from IONA is a Tuscany Committer. Which is a WS PMC
sponsored Incubator project
- Daniel Diephouse from Envoi working on XFire is a WS Committer as he
earned karma on the XmlSchema project.
FWW, Thanks for letting people see your true
Hani,
(I'm a big BileBlog fan. I'm ever so upset that Geir always gets named
when it comes to Harmony while I and more importantly quite a few others
also pour lots of effort in too.
I did a lightning talk at ApacheCon Las Vegas titled "The ASF sucks".
I had 5 minutes, I could've gone on for 30.
On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 05:52 +0100, Hani Suleiman wrote:
> It is interesting to note that all the people who have objected are
> those who feel personally offended by some of my writing
> (specifically, the tomcat and axis2 rants...ironically my tomcat
I was never personally offended by your r
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 12:55:54PM -0700, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >What do you *want* to do? What makes most sense?
>
> well, MyFaces PMC is faster; but adffaces-ppmc has it's charme too.
> But... after adf is a subproject we'll need to delete this list.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Bob Scheifler wrote:
> Leo Simons wrote:
> > I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and I
> > think
> > this means you need a name for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is not "jini" :)
>
> Could you expand on why you think that? Tha
Hani Suleiman wrote:
I'm fairly astounded by the amount of email generated due to my name
being on the initial committer list.
[...] I'm sorry that you can't take a little criticism,
and while I will happily admit that yes, I did insult you in ways that
you probably didn't quite expect, I ful
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